What is really wrong with Russians and other Slavic groups of people?

[Sweetpeaa]

I don't even mean the war. I mean many of these Eastern European countries have GDPs in line or worse than African nations. Russia's transition into Capitalism after 1991 was messy and never ''worked out'' as the western leaders at the time would have hoped far. I think they took that ''just like us'' approach where they believed Russians and other Slavs could create another America as they were ''white''. What could go wrong? right. The realty is probably that Slavic people were less like them than they thought. Russians, Ukrainians and others have created ghettos in their own countries that make Detroit Michigan look like a trip to lollipop land. The villages are hellish places that would scare the living day lights out of anyone living in a western country.




Your thoughts?

 

[AgendaPoster]

Nice picture.
Should I reply with one from Baltimore or some other high GDP Amerifat place?
Maybe you confuse gypsy ghettos with actual parts of the cities?
Also most East EU countries are nowhere near the poverty and crime in Africa, and are very civilized, with few high-criminality places.
The shock therapy liberalization of the markets was so horrible because of the former elites and mafia types cannibalizing formerly state-owned businesses. It was done hastily and without any proper controls. States just stopped being communist and it was brutal for years.
You don't let millions and millions for 50 years under communism, isolated, and then expect them to be just as gay and troonified as you in the West. Give it time. We'll fix you guys

 

[Catler]

Most of those countries were robbed blind by a handful of people and companies after the fall of the USSR. Entire industries where quite literally stolen from the people overnight.

They also suffered serious brain drain after the fall of the USSR.

The fact is these towns, cities, and countries were okay at one point, so they clearly were capable of building and maintaining them.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

They're niggers.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Most of those countries were robbed blind by a handful of people and companies after the fall of the USSR. What redditors think is happening in America actually happened there.

They suffered serious brain drain after the fall of the USSR.

The fact is these towns, cities, and countries were okay at one point, so they clearly were capable of building and maintaining them.

It pretty much is happening in the US though. It's just a lot further behind.

 

[Idiotron]

Slavs only have democracy since 1991.
Some nations never managed to be democratic and became dictatorships.
Also, look up the more distant history of those nations, some of it is horrible and it's a real miracle places like Poland even exist.
Give them time.

 

[Catler]

It pretty much is happening in the US though. It's just a lot further behind.

Wealth in the US is increasingly concentrated at the top, but what actually happened is a lot different.

Imagine if tomorrow the US government as you know it collapsed and everything it (and you by extention) owned was sold to either gangs or Chinese companies for fractions of cents on the dollar, or simply just taken by high ranking government officials.

 

[millais]

The culturally endemic alcoholism doesn't help matters and is responsible for a big part of the demographic collapse.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Why the fuck do you think my great-grandparents left Galicia?

 

[Table Country]

No thread about how Eastern Europe sucks ass is complete without @AgendaPoster bitching about it.

 

[Beautiful Border]

Nice picture.
Should I reply with one from Baltimore or some other high GDP Amerifat place?
Maybe you confuse gypsy ghettos with actual parts of the cities?

God, I hate when people do this, post pictures of run-down buildings as proof somewhere is a shithole. With Russia in particular they always use pictures of the same city, Norilsk.

If you look at where Norilsk is on a map, it's in the Arctic circle. Of course it's going to look a bit glum when it's built in a place where temperatures regularly dip below -20C and there is no daylight during the Winter. If you built the exact same city in somewhere like the Bahamas it wouldn't look as bad. People think Russian cities are depressing when it's actually Russian weather.

 

[Whatevermancer]

western leaders at the time would have hoped

Oh please, western leaders didn't want a strong country that could rival theirs. They wanted a weak country that would supply them with cheap natural resources and purchase their products.
This was all by design.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

After the fall of the USSR they were raped blind by Oligarchs and Western interests. That's about it.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Slav mentality is a mix of Asian "Autistically follow authority" and Nigger "Got mine, fuck you" with an assload of seething with jealousy over western whites.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

they white niggers. Hitler hated them for a reason.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

OP's picture doesn't look too much worse than some parts of Portland.

Culturally, Slavs are whites who never acquired an industrial era mindset. That's why they focus on family and tribalistic loyalties. Some Slavs, like the Poles ruled by Prussia/Germany, the Czechs, and the Slovenes, acquired some Western traits, but by and large this was uncommon. The last feudal areas in Europe like Galicia and Russia were all Slav. The last tribal lands in Europe were either Albanian or Slav (go look up traditional Montenegrin society, the Ottomans mostly left them alone because they were a bunch of violent African-tier tribalists kept in line only by their prince-bishop).

After 1991, the intention was to make puppet states out of Slavs in two categories. You had your Western puppet states like Poland and Czech Republic, which were aided by past history of German rule and vaguely Western people. Then you had your resource countries like Ukraine, Russia, the Balkans (minus maybe Slovenia), etc. The latter part of the program mostly failed because the people involved were so inept they mostly ended up displaced by people like Putin who have much more cynical views on the West which leads us to where we are today.

 

[Fastest Hand In The East]

My dude, slav nations arent Africa, the level of life isnt equal to people dying from starvation.
In 19th century slav nations, especially Russia, at times were going rather strong.
In the light of German and Italian unifications there was a serious push towards also unifying all of slavs into one panslavic nation.
But due to manuevers by UK (surprise, surprise) and other factors (Russian wanted to be the leading country, others disagreed) this has been failed with a known result. The momentum was there, there was a push for it in many nations, even in Poland.
I just want you to keep it in mind to give you persepective- what you see is almost equivalent to German unification failing- a multitude of pathetic small countries plotting against each other all the time.

it's a real miracle places like Poland even exist

You misspelled "disaster"

The culturally endemic alcoholism doesn't help matters and is responsible for a big part of the demographic collapse.

This is mostly a late 20-century myth. The serious problem with alcohol consumption existed from the late 70s to the early 2000s. In USSR you could live and survive as a higher-functioning alcoholic- with guaranteed employment you would be fired if you didnt something really bad- like not showing to work at all, showing to work piss-drunk all the time, something like that. Vast majority of alcoholics were employed and worked, drinking mostly in after hours and weekends. But I think you can imagine quality of work done by disinterested alcoholic who just wants the day to be done so he can get drunk.

 

[AgendaPoster]

No thread about how Eastern Europe sucks ass is complete without @AgendaPoster bitching about it.

Gotta compensate Westoid infestation of the forums

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Most of those countries were robbed blind by a handful of people and companies after the fall of the USSR. Entire industries where quite literally stolen from the people overnight.

They also suffered serious brain drain after the fall of the USSR.

The fact is these towns, cities, and countries were okay at one point, so they clearly were capable of building and maintaining them.

Lol this reminds me of the Romania dictator who out and about sold stuff from the country to prettify his palace.

 

[Moja Zemlja]

The collapse of the USSR lead to a Great Depression level economic catastrophe for the former Soviet and Warsaw Pact nations and the only country that really got it right on how to drag themselves out of it quick was Poland.