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That txt shit got old quick. Yeah, I laughed at the first couple lizard king posts, too. Then I started rolling my eyes.
What is the point of telling Null to get out of a thread?
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I'm not interacting with Patrick at all. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I've never texted him, called him, etc.
I'm doing an investigation into the SFWA. Patrick is never mentioned.
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This is an overly long message that I’m crossposting on here and OnA that I hope will ease some tensions. I'm putting my dumb leg up on the coffee table as if it's going to accomplish anything..
I started Patrick’s thread on here because I thought no one would be willing to put up with the bullshit that Quasi has. The O&A community lived on thanks to Quasi, and that set the stage for the current situation. I was going to try to independently grow a group of Patwatchers using only native Kiwis; I never expected Kiwis and Rascals to coexist.
Most people who are familiar with the O&A “culture” know that there’s an extreme hostility toward almost all authority. Most don’t know that fighting with the main moderator is what got the original subreddit closed down, not Patrick or the Reddit security team.
I think there’s been a fundamental, knee-jerk misperception of @Null by some members of the O&A community. I’ll draw upon my dismal past working in restaurants to draw comparisons, if you don’t mind. If any of you have ever worked in a restaurant, you know that you never get too cute with the dishwasher–ever. It’s a shitty, dirty, sweaty, thankless, poorly paying job where you’re constantly exposed to sharp edges and caustic elements. The owner will fire you, but the dishwasher will just walk out. Which one is locking the Patrick thread? I think it’s more the latter.
Null is the restaurant owner; however, he’s also the dishwasher, because he’s operating a huge restaurant on a food cart budget. He’s been DDoS’d, demonetized, and vexatiously litigated against to the point of having to sell patches and stickers without a payment processor to remain solvent. Both the owner and dishwasher are prone to yelling. I think when certain elements of the O&A community sense hostility from Null they tend to perceive it purely as some prick owner in a starched shirt berating his underlings. They don’t hear the yelling of a dishwasher who moved to another continent to unclog a toilet for the fifth time in one night; meanwhile, a five-gallon tea urn just got spilled all over the floor.
Taking credit for a bomb threat that provably never happened can still create dirty dishes that have to be washed when some Keffals-type screenshots it and hands it over to zero-integrity media who are salivating for tawdry headlines to draw in click-money (remember the Kiwifarms MURDER TALLY?). Taking credit, no matter how cartoonishly, for a SWATing can still clog the toilet when some law enforcement agency subpoenas the last 24 months of all users’ private chat logs and the site owner’s banking information and medical records just so they can appease some rabid Twitter mob by saying they’re “actively pursuing the case.” Who has to clean all that shit up?
Speaking of restaurants, if we’re being honest here, Null’s probably going to get Sopranos finale’d someday by a guy in a dress. I feel inclined to just let it go, even if he did come in and yell at us like a big meanie.
Anyway, this was my attempt at being a diplomat. When I was little my Mother took me to five doctors, and two of them said I probably had Aspergers–that’s how little I’m working with as far as interpersonal skills, charisma, etc. I hope that relations can improve. Let me know if I can help.
I started Patrick’s thread on here because I thought no one would be willing to put up with the bullshit that Quasi has. The O&A community lived on thanks to Quasi, and that set the stage for the current situation. I was going to try to independently grow a group of Patwatchers using only native Kiwis; I never expected Kiwis and Rascals to coexist.
Most people who are familiar with the O&A “culture” know that there’s an extreme hostility toward almost all authority. Most don’t know that fighting with the main moderator is what got the original subreddit closed down, not Patrick or the Reddit security team.
I think there’s been a fundamental, knee-jerk misperception of @Null by some members of the O&A community. I’ll draw upon my dismal past working in restaurants to draw comparisons, if you don’t mind. If any of you have ever worked in a restaurant, you know that you never get too cute with the dishwasher–ever. It’s a shitty, dirty, sweaty, thankless, poorly paying job where you’re constantly exposed to sharp edges and caustic elements. The owner will fire you, but the dishwasher will just walk out. Which one is locking the Patrick thread? I think it’s more the latter.
Null is the restaurant owner; however, he’s also the dishwasher, because he’s operating a huge restaurant on a food cart budget. He’s been DDoS’d, demonetized, and vexatiously litigated against to the point of having to sell patches and stickers without a payment processor to remain solvent. Both the owner and dishwasher are prone to yelling. I think when certain elements of the O&A community sense hostility from Null they tend to perceive it purely as some prick owner in a starched shirt berating his underlings. They don’t hear the yelling of a dishwasher who moved to another continent to unclog a toilet for the fifth time in one night; meanwhile, a five-gallon tea urn just got spilled all over the floor.
Taking credit for a bomb threat that provably never happened can still create dirty dishes that have to be washed when some Keffals-type screenshots it and hands it over to zero-integrity media who are salivating for tawdry headlines to draw in click-money (remember the Kiwifarms MURDER TALLY?). Taking credit, no matter how cartoonishly, for a SWATing can still clog the toilet when some law enforcement agency subpoenas the last 24 months of all users’ private chat logs and the site owner’s banking information and medical records just so they can appease some rabid Twitter mob by saying they’re “actively pursuing the case.” Who has to clean all that shit up?
Speaking of restaurants, if we’re being honest here, Null’s probably going to get Sopranos finale’d someday by a guy in a dress. I feel inclined to just let it go, even if he did come in and yell at us like a big meanie.
Anyway, this was my attempt at being a diplomat. When I was little my Mother took me to five doctors, and two of them said I probably had Aspergers–that’s how little I’m working with as far as interpersonal skills, charisma, etc. I hope that relations can improve. Let me know if I can help.
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Lizard King was good, Chewbacca was good, it needs to be not every day and kept short and to the point. When it's just pages of shit it gets tedious, what are you proving anyway? That you can run semantic circles around the mental midget and make him say dumb shit? Well he says dumb shit all on his own, you sucking your own dick over how clever you are doesn't need to factor into it. Kind of ruined Pat posting for me is all.
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Oh ffs! Only meme about Null, don't be a gayops faggot. What's wrong with them?
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People who don't get high on their own farts and obsess over the little power they have when they get it are an ever rarer thing on the internet. Used to be more common though, just that all forums had rules of conduct and you couldn't tell an admin what you couldn't tell other members.
I think it's honestly because now build their social status through the internet, so whether its anonymous pfps or social media with your name on it, people have imported behaviours and indeed individuals from the real world into the online world. The internet used to be this even playing field where what you did or said mattered not who you were. But that's changed and for those who either live on the internet like (some) neets or live through it like tumblr whores it's nothing like that anymore.
Or in other words its become this:
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Fuck off. cow-tipper. We're trying to laugh at a fat retarded man and your ween bullshit is ruining it for the rest of us.
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Lmao. Caverlock has never even texted pat dumbfuck.
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>all these 2021/2022 accounts pontificating on the nature of the internets when most of them don't know what the fuck this is even about
TrulyMan
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> be me casualy browsing Kiwifarms
> see faggot using greenchat without having a fucking clue about what its for
> said faggot is complaining about people about joindates and newfags not knowing something
> wonder how people like him even remember how to breath
People in the thread got warned it would get locked cause they were sperging out completely. Instead of getting back on track and away from brekaing the sites rules they told him to gtfo the thread in a situation where the site is regularly being targeted for censorship over exactly the type of cowbaiting and swatting he was worried about. How's that for a summary?
Anyone here can call Null a retarded faggot who needs to get out of a thread but not when he's acting in the capacity of an adminsitration. If someones too much of a nigger to understand that subtle difference then they get the hammer.
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The thread lock was inevitable. It derails every other week courtesy of over zealous idiots and discredits the work of thread regulars. Point and laugh - don't touch. It's not that fucking hard to comprehend. All this has done is validate Pat's grievances which in turn gives it legitimacy. Learn impulse control you faggots.
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For anyone still upset about Null, go here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/what-did-null-do-to-you.127795/
Cry your heart out.
Cry your heart out.
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I gapped some porky middle aged faggot in a mustang yesterday and even got to call him Fatrick while he was all flustered making excuses
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>Not using #789222 for most epic, based and coolest of memechat colours
No, child, it is YOU who is the one who cannot breathe
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Reporting people you don't like to the tax police is not very anti-authoritarian.
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What a long and autistic way of saying "Don't encourage fucking with lolcows in real life, and definitely don't encourage utilizing the federal government to do so."
These aren't big requests. Personally, I don't see why Null even allows the cow tipping that already occurs in the thread via those dumb text message conversations with Patrick (which are not interesting or funny at all).
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Watching Null wield his authority makes me discernibly turgid.
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The comments about reporting “tax fraud” to the IRS refer not to Fatty but the SFWA, and from my reading of them stem from a legitimate, if misguided, belief that there was some malfeasance in them funding Fatty’s LOLsuit. I say misguided because as I tried to explain in the thread they - as in the SFWA - probably weren’t aware of his true motivations and also the attorneys representing him on their dime made some really bad arguments that they knew or should have known would never fly.
There is an argument to be made for the idea that they failed in their due diligence, but even if they had that would not prove “tax fraud”. They did, after all, change their organizational status from a “Trade Organization” to a public charity. Conceptually, they’re answerable to the public when it comes to how they use their funds and they went out of their way [spending at least an additional $5,000.00] to avoid answering on the record whether or not they funded the LOLsuit. That’s more of a legal matter than a tax matter, but the failure of people here to understand the intricacies of legal and tax matters doesn’t prove “bad faith” on the part of a person making a complaint.
Along those same lines, people are greatly overestimating the effect making an anonymous claim to an agency like the IRS would have in any circumstance, let alone this one.
All that aside, no one should be getting that close to the feces in the first place; if you absolutely feel you must, then you shouldn’t talk about it.
Right on all counts.
That said, what led to the events of yesterday wasn’t actually the original trolling attempt by “Zodiac Shitter” or any comment suggesting a good faith report of “tax fraud” be made to the IRS with regard to the SFWA, but the assertion - and I’m paraphrasing here - that reporting the activities of a LOLcow or LOLcow-adjacent third party to an agency such as the IRS made you a co-conspirator with the so-called “synagogue of Satan”.
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