What is the very best Linux Distro? - best to make a poll about that

[rochokenko]

arch ok for general us manjaro ok us for phone os keep pen testing set

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

I just checked the Linux thread and barring the most recent page where some guy has trouble using Arch because of Hyper-V or some shit like that, there are literally atleast 1 person complaining about a distro every single page. Here's another example: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-linux-thread.62944/page-256#post-17131851

The day Linux will get a good distro (apart from Android and Mac OFC) is a snowball's chance in hell.

 

[DavidS877]

But really, you don't use Arch if you want a computer to just work, you do it for the challenge. For the sheer exhilaration of conquering a difficult task

There are some of us who have been through the years of build it ourselves Linux. These days we don't use Arch because we learned that working installers and package managers are a good thing.

It used to be said that "Gentoo is for ricers." now it's "Arch is for ricers." Sure, if you need to learn how it all works, fine. But then when you hit the real world of Linux it has to just work(tm).

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

You are a dimwit for thinking systemd is the only option to sysv and you opinion is duly discarded.

I never said that systemd is the only other option to sysv. I said that systemd was the best option by far, which it is, and which is why everybody uses systemd. From robots to supercomputers.

Name one better alternative.

 

[Creative Username]

I just checked the Linux thread and barring the most recent page where some guy has trouble using Arch because of Hyper-V or some shit like that, there are literally atleast 1 person complaining about a distro every single page.

That's because they love having slapfights every day as part of standard procedure of having Linux discussions. In reality, there are 4 or so distros that work pretty well, and a few thousand that nobody cares about. Also, sometimes one distro doesn't work because the computer it's being installed on just doesn't like it, but another distro works flawlessly. However, I would like to say that Arch has worked for me on every computer I've tried it on where the archiso boots (which is very close to all the time).

The day Linux will get a good distro (apart from Android and Mac OFC) is a snowball's chance in hell.

Linux already has several good distros that can be used for various specialties. Also, Mac isn't based on Linux, it's a heavily customized port of FreeBSD.

There are some of us who have been through the years of build it ourselves Linux. These days we don't use Arch because we learned that working installers and package managers are a good thing.

It used to be said that "Gentoo is for ricers." now it's "Arch is for ricers." Sure, if you need to learn how it all works, fine. But then when you hit the real world of Linux it has to just work(tm).

Arch really isn't THAT unstable. I've been using it for quite a while, because I like to see more of what's happening under the hood. It only needs a rare bit of manual intervention, and pacman isn't too prone to shitting itself. It still is far from suitable for normies.

 

[Heliantheae]

I never said that systemd is the only other option to sysv. I said that systemd was the best option by far

Your comparison was solely between sysv and systemd and you have only mentioned sysv and systemd:

I have used both SysV snd systemd [...] Just compare a systemd service file with the corresponding init script [...] Services can be made userspecific without using root, which is a major pain when using sysvinit.

If your idea of proving systemd is awesome is by comparing it only to sysv that either means you have no insight into other alternatives, you think sysv is the strongest alternative (literally retarded), or that you are useless at providing a credible argument. Perhaps I was to generous in assuming the first option applied.

That you attribute "everybody using systemd" to it being the best option is a logical non-sequitur. If you care to read up on old discussions from distros the retrospective I linked to a few pages back brings up some of what transpired. The adoption of systemd for some distros was in many ways not due to it beating the then current init system competition (upstart), but politics as well as the blob of features systemd provided outside of init. In the end running upstart as init together with systemd for lots of other stuff would have been a disaster waiting to happen. As for robots and supercomputers: whatever is cheap and the least hassle will win, they can spare the computing resources and neither companies nor researchers give a fuck about anything else than profit or their current studies.

Name one better alternative.

s6.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Also, sometimes one distro doesn't work because the computer it's being installed on just doesn't like it, but another distro works flawlessly.

That's a cope lmao. Dozens of posts of people just pointing out that Linux can't even Nvidia most of the time, either the WiFi gets bonked or it's slow AF.


I guess Windows doesn't work flawlessly 100% of the time on all machines, but atleast I've yet to see any driver problem with it esp on a fresh install. Linux seems to work closer to 70% of the time as intended, it's stupid how there's a lack of standard with Linux devs.

 

[Creative Username]

That's a cope lmao. Dozens of posts of people just pointing out that Linux can't even Nvidia most of the time, either the WiFi gets bonked or it's slow AF.


I guess Windows doesn't work flawlessly 100% of the time on all machines, but atleast I've yet to see any driver problem with it esp on a fresh install. Linux seems to work closer to 80% of the time as intended, it's stupid how there's a lack of standard with Linux devs.

That's because distro devs have extreme autism sometimes and don't package the NVIDIA blob that makes the card work perfectly. When WiFi doesn't work, it's because the niggers at Broadcom didn't release any documentation so the drivers have to be reverse-engineered, experimental, and thus out-of-tree. That means you have to use DKMS, and the graphical installers don't typically let you set up weird drivers and DKMS shit without heavy intervention.

I don't think the installation situation for Linux is that good. People just make a shit ISO with a GUI script for doing the kind of shit that every Arch installer (autist at a keyboard, not script) does, just less flexibly. Nobody has made a standard Linux installer that can put whichever distro with whatever drivers on whatever partition. This would be considerably simpler than it sounds because most distros are extremely standard, with a few different package managers and a bunch of different repositories.

Also, the guy in the post you linked was using an obscure distro using a very non-standard package management paradigm, and one of the replies suggests that they have omitted the NVIDIA blob, which is why it's slow as shit.

 

[DavidS877]

Linux can't even Nvidia most of the time

It's funny people say this. The sum total of getting Nvidia to work has been clicking "Yes, I want the evil proprietary drivers." I had one glitch with Debian DKMS a couple years ago where it wasn't doing the module signing correctly, which would apply to any out of tree module Nvidia or not. So I had to login and sign the modules and reboot to get X to start until they fixed it.

I got an AMD card for the first time in many years, I'm greeted with cracking audio, screen tearing during video playback and poor AI/ML support, at least the last one was expected.

 

[rochokenko]

That's a cope lmao. Dozens of posts of people just pointing out that Linux can't even Nvidia most of the time, either the WiFi gets bonked or it's slow AF.


I guess Windows doesn't work flawlessly 100% of the time on all machines, but atleast I've yet to see any driver problem with it esp on a fresh install. Linux seems to work closer to 70% of the time as intended, it's stupid how there's a lack of standard with Linux devs.

90% time with windows or Linux 80% good few right now lot Linux clean up lot mass of coc mass form back then still. windows in safe looking push user base out main sort of desk top pcs look win 12 has bit of shit show on backside of work combo lot trying ai base into every thing. new os type likely going have be made help arise form next few yr

 

[seri0us]

90% time with windows or Linux 80% good few right now lot Linux clean up lot mass of coc mass form back then still. windows in safe looking push user base out main sort of desk top pcs look win 12 has bit of shit show on backside of work combo lot trying ai base into every thing. new os type likely going have be made help arise form next few yr

I can't understand you.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

90% time with windows or Linux 80% good few right now lot Linux clean up lot mass of coc mass form back then still. windows in safe looking push user base out main sort of desk top pcs look win 12 has bit of shit show on backside of work combo lot trying ai base into every thing. new os type likely going have be made help arise form next few yr

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[Betonhaus]

90% time with windows or Linux 80% good few right now lot Linux clean up lot mass of coc mass form back then still. windows in safe looking push user base out main sort of desk top pcs look win 12 has bit of shit show on backside of work combo lot trying ai base into every thing. new os type likely going have be made help arise form next few yr

Grammar For Beginners: All About Pronouns - WritersWrite
...I've been trying to edit this into understandable sentences but I just can't make heads or tails of it.

 

[Creative Username]

I will attempt to translate from retarded ESL schizoese to English:

90% time with windows or Linux 80% good

Windows works 90% of the time, Linux works 80% of the time. (In my experience, it's more of a 99/75 split.)

few right now lot Linux clean up lot mass of coc mass form back then still.

??? (May be stating that the CoC situation is improving. Nah...)

windows in safe looking push user base out main sort of desk top pcs look win 12 has bit of shit show on backside of work combo lot trying ai base into every thing.

Windows is pretty safe in its user base right now, but it has been a shitshow with all the marketing suits shoehorning AI into Windows 12. (He might be stating that Windows doesn't have a hold on its users, considering his other arguments. You can see this is not true from this very thread.)

new os type likely going have be made help arise form next few yr

A new type of OS will likely arise in the next few years. VERY . (He might be referring to Linux becoming very popular soon. )

I might be completely wrong about what this sperg is saying, but I tried.

 

[Betonhaus]

I will attempt to translate from retarded ESL schizoese to English:

Windows works 90% of the time, Linux works 80% of the time. (In my experience, it's more of a 99/75 split.)

??? (May be stating that the CoC situation is improving. Nah...)

Windows is pretty safe in its user base right now, but it has been a shitshow with all the marketing suits shoehorning AI into Windows 12. (He might be stating that Windows doesn't have a hold on its users, considering his other arguments. You can see this is not true from this very thread.)

A new type of OS will likely arise in the next few years. VERY . (He might be referring to Linux becoming very popular soon. )

I might be completely wrong about what this sperg is saying, but I tried.

there are 162 definitions for "coc" so I can't even begin to guess what it means. Maybe code? crap?

few right now lot Linux clean up lot mass of coc mass form back then still

There are few Linux users now, Linux has cleaned up a lot of ??? compared to the past, but there's still a lot of ???

I think by OS type he may be referring to newer platforms, like AR glasses or smart earbuds or implants.

I'd assume he's drunkposting, but if so he only posts when drunk.

 

[DavidS877]

there are 162 definitions for "coc" so I can't even begin to guess what it means. Maybe code? crap?

CoC is generally Code Of Conduct. The stupid shit all the woke open source projects are doing.

 

[Creative Username]

CoC is generally Code Of Conduct. The stupid shit all the woke open source projects are doing.

There's nothing inherently wrong with having one, it's just that the main ones are impressively retarded.

 

[DavidS877]

There's nothing inherently wrong with having one, it's just that the main ones are impressively retarded.

It's pretty simple to write one.
"Don't be an asshole. Don't talk about shit unrelated to the project."

 

[macrodegenerate]

Systemd can also eviscerate your boot time in circumstances when retarded stars align (e.g. waiting for target.network before giving the user the login screen.. what deranged mind conceived of that idea?)

Someone who hates people who build their party network network drivers from source or someone who has never used a wireless network.

there are 162 definitions for "coc" so I can't even begin to guess what it means. Maybe code? crap?

Good to see they managed to add Corruption of Champions.

 

[Sandy Sun Dunes]

Hate the "Best Distro" question since it so heavily depends on use case.
I'm casting my vote based on desktop usage, so i guess it'll have to be Mint. Been using it for near a decade as my daily driver and haven't had too many issues beyond my own retardation. It's also been useful in handing to computer illiterate people or people coming off windows who just want to be able to access facebook. MX is good for that too, and I like what I've seen from it. However I just haven't used it nearly as much as Mint.

As for server usage, I don't run too many machines as servers so I don't have strong opinions. But I do prefer base debian over ubuntu. Even if both of them mean having to deal with systemd and it occasionally being fucking stupid. Honestly, I think I prefer BSD over linux based servers. It doesn't always fit the use case but damn if it doesn't feel comfy.