Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

[Yamamura]

They are essentially anti social male nerds even if they didn't troon out. I feel like people who are naturally unlikable will gravitate toward this sort of thing.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

It’s actually worse objectively than Flat Earth evidence. At least a number of flat earthers make an attempt, however horribly wrong, ill researched and misinformed, to explain their scientific theories.

Flat Earthism is hilarious. Troonism isn't.

The one great overarching sin of the Progressive Left is that those joyless motherfuckers have absolutely no goddamn sense of humor whatsoever. Literally everything under the sun is offensive and to be taken offense at. It's unforgivable.

Could it be that the trans advocates know that there is no credible supporting scientific evidence for their claims?

Of COURSE they know it. It's Newspeak. Troonism isn't right because science, it's "right" because the Party says it is.

That alone is reason enough that I wouldn't even bitch about the resulting air pollution if their so-called genocide got turned into reality.

I'm in favor of mass graves filled with quicklime, minimizes potential pollution and is historically proven successful.

Changing sex IS changing one of the most core parts of your being

YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR SEX. This is the POINT. Look at how they've confused and befuddled the fucking language, playing bait and switch with "gender"/"sex" until even WE aren't sure what we mean anymore. Motherfucking Progressive Marxist subversive faggot fuckers.

Because it is a lie.

damn straight

I wish the trans people, like the furries before them, would JUST BE TRANS and sit around in their little echo chambers and suck each other off. But they join the feminists and the pinko commies aligned with them to have to ruin EVERYTHING for their own selfish bullshit feelings. The ironic part is when the revolution does come they will die first.

and it will be glorious to watch all of those fleeting moments of horrified, terror-stricken epiphany as the rope is tightened for the very last time by their own Progressive "comrades."

Fuck em. Every last one of them has it coming.

echoing what many have said here: YNBAW.

I agree with so many here and elsewhere, especially Matt Walsh and company, that "trans" for AGPs is nothing more than skinwalking, womanhood just a costume to be worn.

They're a distraction (with real consequences), a part of the culture war, while the cost of living continues to increase and basic living standards drop. They're useful idiots.

they're worse than that, they are Marxist Pinko shock troops. The MtF troons are, to a man, violent psychopathic shitsacks.

honestly, i would give a fuck less about faggots wearing dresses if it meant my freedom of speech/children weren’t getting fucked in the process.

troonism is nothing more than a Trojan horse for diddlers

It's the narcissistic behavior. The whining. The constant complaining. The fucking everything. Everything has to be an attack or coded as one when in actuality no one gives a fuck.

yeah, I NEVER gave a fuck about troons until I met a few, and then it dawned on me that they're all literally dangerous mental patients who are running amuck.

They should all be forcibly stuffed into restraints, warehoused in padded cells, Thorazined into permanent unconsciousness, and electroshocked until their brains leak out of their eye sockets.

Troons have no moral compass and they all feel like they mimic what well adjusted or normal people do.

you *do* realize this is a textbook description of a psychopath, right?

For me, it's the constant suicide baiting and the fact that they get away with a lot because of that.

substitute "troon" for "nigger" and this is every troon on earth:

They specifically go out of their way to target, manipulate, and groom those who are most easily influenced such as individuals on the autism spectrum

that's what psychopaths do

How can you claim “trans women are women” when trans women experience none of the common challenges and life experiences women have?

Trans women AREN'T women. Period, QED.

 

[unctuous mouthfeel]

There was that African lady author who got in trouble for saying "I believe trans women are trans women" and for some reason that made them go crazy. I thought that was a very fair and indisputably true statement but people started calling for her death. On the flip side, if trans women are women from birth they shouldn't have to do anything cosmetically. And everything they do, no matter how medicinal, is cosmetic. I can put a dinosaur outfit on my dog but he doesn't become more of a t-rex.
Then I saw people saying Jesse Singal is a hateful bigot so I read his work and there is no honest interpretation of what he says that could lead you to that conclusion. I obviously don't know him but he strikes me as a kind and compassionate (to a fault maybe!) man who truly wants the best for the theoretical minority that has genuine dysphoria. I don't really believe any do, but if you do he should be considered a friend to the cause.
Then in many of my online dealings I have seen trannies just act like insane maniacs. They've flipped out on people for no reason, I've even known of one who killed himself. So much for "trans joy" eh?
I make some art for public consumption in my real life and I've never weighed in on trans stuff, not sure if I have any trans fans, but if I do I'm sure they think I'm cool with them. I'm sure they think a lot of people are cool with them, but they're just keeping their mouths shut because it's not worth getting yelled at by crazies. I'm also not going to tell anyone that the CIA isn't monitoring their thoughts through their fillings.

Oh, *outside* of the batshittery? They look stupid.

 

[SandyCat]

If they left kids alone I wouldn't care about them. I'd laugh at them but outside of finding them weird and gross I would be indifferent to their existence

 

[TruffleSpark]

Despite its labeling as progressive, the trans movement promotes an incredibly limited and reactionary view of gender and gender roles. This is especially harmful for women. Other young women who don't fit a super girly bimbofied box of femininity these days skip calling themselves women entirely in favor of being a they/them. All this enbyfication has eroded the sense of solidarity with other women that previous generations felt regardless of adherence to gender roles; now they don't even consider themselves part of the same gender/sex, even though the same sex based issues affect them just as much as they do a feminine woman.

Seeing just how normalised misogyny is in troon circles is what peaked me. Especially with the MtFs. Sure there are creeps in every group of people, but the only other group where this level of misogyny is accepted is probably incels. Not that there isn't a lot of overlap between those groups these days.

I'd add that adherence to gender roles isn't great for men either. Maybe men still get a better deal out of it than women, but it still isn't healthy to put men in a box and tell them they aren't a real man if they step outside it. Not too long ago a big feminist talking point was "the patriarchy hurts men too." And at some point in the last decade that just disappeared. Because instead of helping men who didn't meet societal expectations of masculinity be comfortable with themselves we just started encouraging them to troon out. So that instead of being failed men they can take over womanhood and redefine it to place themselves at the center of it.

 

[Grift Garrison]

Its that we're expected to enable their mental illness or be ostracized for it. If the voices in some strung out Meth smokers head tell him he's a surgeon, we don't get him a scalpel and start booking him patients; let alone try and ruin the lives of people who don't want to visit his practice. But the second somebodys uncle starts wearing a dress, we're expected to let them change in the women's locker room. Its so insane that sometimes I wonder if I'm actually insane and just imagining that this is where we are.

 

[fake farts]

There was that African lady author who got in trouble for saying "I believe trans women are trans women" and for some reason that made them go crazy. I thought that was a very fair and indisputably true statement but people started calling for her death.

Chimamanda Nogzi Adichie. That was one of many big events that started me down the quick path of, shall we say, not appreciating them.

 

[mannic]

They specifically target children and teenagers who are vunerable (and probably part of LGBT).

They also destroyed masculine women, and feminine men. Acting different from you gender doesn't mean you are a tranny.

In some communities I've seen them turning fujoshis to transition into male so they can fullfill their "gay sex or gay romance" fantasies. turning yuri/lesbian fetishists to become a woman so they can fullfill their porn fantasies. they are a plague.

And somehow ruined straight people as well. I cannot stand my fucking normie friends who says supportive shit to trannies. I hate trannies and their allies equally.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

t the only other group where this level of misogyny is accepted is probably incels

And Muslims. They're even allowed to hate faggots. Hell, they're allowed to kill civilians and it's our fault for oppressing them. They got away with banning the pride flag in a Michigan city and all the progressives were like *surprised pikachu face*

But no, they will never try to enact sharia law here, nope. Being muslim or a troon are identity politics cheat codes.

 

[TruffleSpark]

And Muslims. They're even allowed to hate faggots. Hell, they're allowed to kill civilians and it's our fault for oppressing them. They got away with banning the pride flag in a Michigan city and all the progressives were like *surprised pikachu face*

But no, they will never try to enact sharia law here, nope. Being muslim or a troon are identity politics cheat codes.

Even muslims have the incredibly thin excuse of "we're controlling women for their own good because we are protecting them." idk to what degree they actually believe that. But the fact that they feel the need to excuse their behaviour shows at least some awareness.

 

[mannic]

But no, they will never try to enact sharia law here, nope. Being muslim or a troon are identity politics cheat codes.

You never heard of troon muslims and the liberal muslims who support them. Though they are not common in arab countries.

Islam is a mixed bag for me, you have one side who support stoning gays and atheists, huge age gap marriages, and forcing women in islamic countries to wear a headscarf cause its haram. And then you have another side that they are feminists, the Quran supports homosexuality and transgenders and saying that Allah is a good guy.

 

[Tumbo II]

They are an affront to human decency and the Lord. In a more practical sense transgenderism is simply the end result of an Enlightenment era crusade for personal autonomy. What people don't realize is we don't exist in a vacuum if these people want to be selfish retarteds so be it but they shouldn't act suprised when people disagree.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Your honor, the prosecution rests.

 

[PaladinBoo]

They have destroyed every community I've been a part of. From TTRPG's, modding, video games, books, fantasy, mythology, comics has all been corrupted by troonism.

 

[Positron]

Troons are the most glorious fruits of the Narcissism Epidemic. Children who have never heard the word "no", whose parents indulge their every whim and fancy because they are "old enough to decide", encouraged by teachers who repeatedly remind them they are special and unique and exactly what the world needs, grow up to be completely unable to handle any disagreement and act out as if there is no other people in the world but them. They are further incubated by the corrupt higher education institution, who equip them with faux-intellectual theories to justify their twisted world view and their entitlement: any joke is "hate speech"; any snag on their "journey" is considered "genocide". And the worst, normal, reasonable people are forced to live with them, agreeing with them on the pains of punishment.

It is amazing how the uneasy equilibrium between trannies and normies -- the former kept to themselves; the latter laugh but largely let them be -- that prevailed between the 1960s to 2000s has degenerated into the present state of affair, where trannies openly flaunt their sexual fetish, strongarm their way into women's sports, women's prisons, and women-only shelters, and freely convert children at schools, while normies are cowered into silence. This is all with the blessing of governments, "Science™", and sometimes even the Christian churches.

In the immortal words of Joshua Alcorn, "Fix Society. Pleases".

 

[gamerweeb1]

Because I am an atheist.

Transgenderism is essentially just the most recent religion to gain ground as a tool for brainwashing, censorship, pseudoscience, and the destruction of freedom of speech.

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

Because they're hideous, mentally ill mutants and monsters. never had I looked at one and thought, "this person's someone I want to see on a daily basis. "

 

[TruffleSpark]

Because I am an atheist.

Transgenderism is essentially just the most recent religion to gain ground as a tool for brainwashing, censorship, pseudoscience, and the destruction of freedom of speech.

Even their obsession with "trans genocide" feels like a secularised version of a doomsday prophecy. There is a strong history of that in America. And like the Millerites before them I doubt that doomsday not coming true will do anything to convince them that it was a stupid thing to believe.

 

[Sneak 'n' Snore]

Personally I don't even think there's that much of an evil agenda behind them (at least most of them). I just disagree with that notion that you can change the gender you were born with.
On a more personal level I also hate how much damage they have done to gender norms and the regression to what men and women can do without being labeled a troon.

 

[Sun Sucker]

I'm going to be incredibly lazy here and re-post a post I made on September 4th of 2022 in the "FUCK CLOUDFLARE" thread; when the Keffals & Cloudflare issue had reached a boiling point. I feel that my comments about Cloudflare may still ring true, even today.

I don't hate trans people. More specifically, I don't hate trans people who mind their fucking business. I don't hate trans people who understand that taking synthetic cross-sex hormones and/or having surgeries do not transform them into the biological equivalent of their chosen identity. I don't even have a problem with the retarded theybies as long as I'm speaking to one of them that understands biological sex is a reality and not the creation of "the fascist, racist, patriarchal system". I'll accommodate their pronouns in the public space if they simply do not force their fucking viewpoint down my throat. And if they try to do that I do my best not to cause a fucking commotion and just cut contact with them afterward.

Who I do hate are the people who are openly fucking LARPing as a biological sex for their blatant fetish. The Kevin Gibes, Ripley Raviolis, Kind Kinksters of the world. Who I do hate are the people that openly see woman/manhood as mainly just a half-assed social and sexual function, going into deeper and deeper depths to chase their unattainable bliss, making fools of themselves in public online spaces, and then having the gall to tout themselves as beacons of love, acceptance, and kindness.

I hate people like Keffals even more. To the point that even thinking about their actions makes my blood boil. Helping distribute homemade cross-sex hormones to FUCKING MINORS IS A FUCKING CRIME. They are ACTIVELY ruining the lives of confused, lost, depressed kids who think they need to mutilate their genitals or take synthetic sex hormones (both of which have incredibly high risks, the former option more immediately so) because they don't like their breasts or the way their natural genitalia looks or they just want to be androgynous but the general culture doesn't allow for that anymore and immediately forces you under the "non-binary" label that is under the "trans umbrella".

I'm here because the only public space left that allows me to talk or listen to people talk about such issues is Kiwi Farms. I'm here because the only site that effectively documents the horrors of SRS surgeries is here. I'm here, because I can NOT talk about the experience I had with a trans-identified male acting out in an increasingly depraved fashion and slowly losing every part of his former personality throughout the four years of his hormone therapy, anywhere else but here. I'm here because I experienced an actual female friend legitimately thinking and expressing that J.K Rowling, a woman talking about her domestic abuse experiences and how that related to her fears of female-only spaces being occupied by trans-identified males, should "shut up on Twitter" because the aforementioned trans-identified male was upset about it.

I'm here because the great churning machine of trans medicine and surgery is making too many people way too much money. These people, Keffals and their child victims on Twitter, on Catboy Ranch, or the people in the online sphere formed around the Tranch, are the sacred cows for this machine. They are protected because they are life-long patients or have the potential to become such. They NEED to be "validated" and "accepted" in all their mental and physical ruin because every penis sock smushed into each male pelvis, and every arm sausage hanging over a mangled but still unmistakably female vagina, is money, and the corrupt academic system working overtime to pump out meaningless, customer satisfaction form-esque study after study to back them up wants people like us fucking gone.

Cloudflare chose to become a part of this system. Every single fucking person working for them knows goddamn well that that glowie post would never have gone public if the person that wrote it didn't take a screenshot of it immediately after posting it. It was removed like it would have been on every other fucking website that Cloudflare hosts. They know this just as well as we do or else we wouldn't have gotten that public explanation that managed to say less than nothing in multiple paragraphs.

I don't know what will happen to the site. All I know is countless people here, including me, are here because there is nowhere else left where we can simply say what we think. I don't want trans people to die, I don't want trans people to suffer, all I want is a community that understands that the conversation around what "being trans" is heavily and artificially altered by every single mainstream source there is, whether academic or just day-to-day media, and I find that here.

To sum up, go fuck yourself, Cloudflare.

They have destroyed every community I've been a part of. From TTRPG's, modding, video games, books, fantasy, mythology, comics has all been corrupted by troonism.

And this exactly. If it weren't for the AGP TiM in my old TTRPG group I wouldn't even be here.