Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

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M▲NNIC said:
And somehow ruined straight people as well.
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It can seem like straight romance is fading away or almost gone from the modern world. Especially with demonizing of straight male sexuality as "creepy" or "inappropriate" or "sexist", while LGBTQETC is promoted as "pride" and "progress". I know straight sexuality is at least still around, despite the apparent "heterophobia" of Clown World.
 
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If there were year round propaganda campaigns convincing girls to be bulimic or anorexic to "be their own selves" and is damn right close being illegal to criticize it then i'd have a problem too. It wouldnt be that anorexics existing is shocking, thats just a fact of life but there's no way you can mainstream and normalize such extreme and harmful behaviour and on top promote it as a cool thing to do while punishing people who don't want indulge anorexic dellusions. Trangenderism is a meat grinder and a completely twisted idea that should not be normalized. The mainstreaming of these ideas is bad for everyone including the troons and is only good to line the pockets of a minority of unethical creeps.

The greater lgbt agenda and the pride crap has overtaken so much that you really can't have a live and let live attitude about it either. the sliperry slope is close to full 90 degrees at this point. PRIDE is western individualism jumping the shark until its becomes a complete absurdity. Its obvious now why every culture on earth has developed taboos against these people
 
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Personally, disgusting retarded men who are using this to abuse and ruin woman’s rights. Those are the absolute worst people alive. I live in fear that my wife will be harassed in a bathroom by a fucking AGP Smerk and smell.

Somehow we let the WORST cast of society have complete and total control, and the only reasons it’s allowed is because it lets the government enact globohomo totalitarian laws.
 
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That if you say some common sense thing like "boys have penises girls have vaginas" they'll accuse you of "confusing biological sex with gender" when in reality THEY are the only people confusing biological sex and gender!

"It doesn't matter if trans women compete in female sports because they identify as women so they are!"
"A rapist with a penis can totally go to a women's prison because she identifies as a woman!"
"It's OK for your 13 year old daughter to be forced to shower bare naked next to a horny boy scrubbing his hard prick because he identifies as a girl so that makes it a feminine penis!"
 
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Everything. Everything about them. Troons, male and female, have built a subculture that fixates on encouraging/celebrating/elevating the most odious personality traits they can find. It's as if we've encountered real life orcs. The more cruel, the more stupid, the more selfish, the more self-aggrandizing, the more smug a troon is the more other troons idolize it. Everything centers around controlling cluster B personalities, but where normal people discourage (or try to ignore) the associated behaviors, troons get  rewarded for acting them out. The simultaneous high they get from making everyone around them walk on eggshells while complaining that nobody treats them normally.

Their incessant need to relate everything back to being a tranny; I've seen Slack channels in the workplace that announce things like "helpdesk will be open these hours". People emoji react to these with thumbs up, thank you....and several dozen tranny  flags. Not even the grossest faggy attention-seeking gays do things like that, not nearly with that frequency. I get it, it's one of those tiny things that seems like a nitpick to any disinterested observer, but it's because they do this shit with everything. Every facet of a troon's life becomes about being a tranny. Every bit of an AGP's life conforms to the need to coom and act like the flaming stereotype emotionally unstable bimbo. Every bit of a pooner's life turns into alternating between acting like a caricature of a dudebro and sobbing when it doesn't work. The narcissism, the controlling behaviors, the exhibitionism, the threatening behavior, the derailment of all groups they infiltrate, it's the whole package really.
 
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It is the fact that they are almost trying to bring back lysenkoism in terms of how they view gender. As humans are sexually-dimorphic animals, this has broader physiological implications as the differences between men and women cannot simply be glossed over. Being male or female is written into everybody's very cells, and you cannot change biology. It is also pointless and medically-unsound to even try as the outcomes are universally poor and lead to permanent secondary medical complications.

For people who truly have gender dysphoria, they should not be hated, but society should treat them as being mentally unwell like we do with people who have eating disorders or body integrity disorder. We should not indulge in and affirm their delusions, and I hate how troons encourage treating a mental disease with dangerous and maiming cosmetic surgery.
 
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For a good number of troons it is clearly just a fetish rather than a mental illness or childhood trauma or any that I would be sympathetic towards. And I refuse to take part in their fetish by acting like they are normal or a woman.

The fact there is a push that you can be a troon without gender dysphoria is crazy.
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I actually do feel sorry for the truscums. Don't get me wrong they are still fucking crazy. But being a person with actual dysphoria who has to watch their own community get taken over by fetishists and narcissists must be like being someone born without legs watching people intentionally cripple themselves because wheelchairs have become trendy. I read r/truscum sometimes and they are well aware that the mainstream trans community is turning normies against them. So I sympathise with their desire to gatekeep who is and isn't trans instead of just taking everyone at their word. The main problem with that though is I just don't think there's a reliable way to do that. Claims of gender dysphoria are unfalsifiable, so there's no way to separate the "real" trans people from the fetishists/narcissists.
 
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TruffleSpark said:
I actually do feel sorry for the truscums. Don't get me wrong they are still fucking crazy. But being a person with actual dysphoria who has to watch their own community get taken over by fetishists and narcissists must be like being someone born without legs watching people intentionally cripple themselves because wheelchairs have become trendy. I read r/truscum sometimes and they are well aware that the mainstream trans community is turning normies against them. So I sympathise with their desire to gatekeep who is and isn't trans instead of just taking everyone at their word. The main problem with that though is I just don't think there's a reliable way to do that. Claims of gender dysphoria are unfalsifiable, so there's no way to separate the "real" trans people from the fetishists/narcissists.
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It's the danger in being part of any "trendy" minority group. How big the problem gets depends on how easy the group is to infiltrate in the first place of course. But society has a subculture of narcissistic freaks ready to jump on anything. Rachel Dolezals are right around the corner. The college lesbians fuck up the already small lesbian dating pool.

The tranny thing seems to be a league of its own. The Mulvaneys, the Gibes, the Dong Gones, the monsters in the troon movement are everywhere, and I'd bet money they're the majority given how uniform their brand of madness is.
 
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It's the danger in being part of any "trendy" minority group. How big the problem gets depends on how easy the group is to infiltrate in the first place of course. But society has a subculture of narcissistic freaks ready to jump on anything. Rachel Dolezals are right around the corner. The college lesbians fuck up the already small lesbian dating pool.

The tranny thing seems to be a league of its own. The Mulvaneys, the Gibes, the Dong Gones, the monsters in the troon movement are everywhere, and I'd bet money they're the majority given how uniform their brand of madness is.
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We never hear shit about the ones who pass and dedicate their lives to passing.

So yeah. The ones who don't pass have to make noise.
 
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FinnSven said:
We never hear shit about the ones who pass and dedicate their lives to passing.

So yeah. The ones who don't pass have to make noise.
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That and I've seen the ballpark stats on tranny "diagnosis". It's gone up tenfold in the last decade. It's statistically impossible that the new ones are what one might hesitantly call "legitimate". Oh they're mentally ill all right. With Twitter Brain, bathtub alchemy, ogre narcissism, poonery, etc etc.
 
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I hate how everyone is flattened into identity avatars to be neatly slotted and sorted. And everyone other than the troon gets turned into a set piece or supporting character, that only exists in order to cheer on, facilitate, or reward the troon in some way.

They also tend to veer off into revolutionary/liberation hard left crazy land, while also being people largly incapable of fighting anyone but women and the elderly. Their weird utopian idea of what the future should be like is a shallow pothead's half remembered what-if scenario detached from how anything would actually work. There's nothing deeper to it than rejecting the current status quo for the sake of rejecting it. They're just a porn soaked reflection of other modern authoritarian fantasies, and every bit as anti-intellectual. They have no solutions for any problems while demanding the world be rebuilt around them.
 
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SouthernBitchBob said:
It's the danger in being part of any "trendy" minority group. How big the problem gets depends on how easy the group is to infiltrate in the first place of course. But society has a subculture of narcissistic freaks ready to jump on anything. Rachel Dolezals are right around the corner. The college lesbians fuck up the already small lesbian dating pool.

The tranny thing seems to be a league of its own. The Mulvaneys, the Gibes, the Dong Gones, the monsters in the troon movement are everywhere, and I'd bet money they're the majority given how uniform their brand of madness is.
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What i dont understand is how no trans person sees someone like Mulvaney and realize the dude is clearly a fucking attention seeker?Dylan literally has never experienced dysphoria because he was an out and proud about gay man, but then all of a sudden were suppose to believe he was trans this whole time?Not to mention Dylan literally contradicted himself so many times to where he said he was a gay man,then non binary,then a trans woman, and now i herd he said he considers himself to be a trans lesbian.
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I actually do feel sorry for the truscums. Don't get me wrong they are still fucking crazy. But being a person with actual dysphoria who has to watch their own community get taken over by fetishists and narcissists must be like being someone born without legs watching people intentionally cripple themselves because wheelchairs have become trendy. I read r/truscum sometimes and they are well aware that the mainstream trans community is turning normies against them. So I sympathise with their desire to gatekeep who is and isn't trans instead of just taking everyone at their word. The main problem with that though is I just don't think there's a reliable way to do that. Claims of gender dysphoria are unfalsifiable, so there's no way to separate the "real" trans people from the fetishists/narcissists.
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Honestly, from my experience they've brought this on themselves when they decided that there's more than two genders.My own cousin claims to be genderfluid despite the fact that she's never experience gender dysphoria, and has changed nothing about herself.Its quite clear that non male/female gender identities are clearly attention seekers who want to feel special, but some of these trans narcissist dont call these people out.Hell, remember when trans people used to complain about transspecies and people identifying as cats claiming that was basically the "attack heliocopter" joke?Now, you can look up catgender and see its a real and valid gender identity that must be taken seriously.
 
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