What political talking point(s) do you not like?

[Troon_Patrol]

Anything that relies on conjecture like that LGBT thing you stated. "Oh, you like guns? Then you must automatically be okay with school shooters!" "Oh, you're in favor of giving right-wingers a platform? Then you must agree with their opinions and/or be a literal nazi!" "Oh, you're Jewish? You must automatically hate Palestine's existence!"

It's so tiring and childish but it seems like it's the default for any political argument not done between 200IQ thinktank professionals at this point. I guess that's what happens when the layman gets easy access to political extremism and their accompanying hugboxes.

This^. This bullshit "Are you X? Well then, you are certainly Y!" formula.
People on the left use it the most, typically. Its a piss - poor attempt at an argument, whoever came up with it had no factual arguments so they relied on equating two things that had nothing to do with each-other. "Do you like peanut butter? Well then, you support the murdering of orphans!"

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

That the harsh punishments and stigma that comes with a DUI is a LesSSon or otherwise deserved. A single drink plus a biased test and/or suspicious cop who thinks their social impulses are enough to interpret the law can derail someone's life.

I think DWI/DUI punishments have become a bit crazy, in some states it's a felony. Unless you cause an accident, damage property, or kill somebody it should be considered a traffic infraction. A talking point that MADD uses is that somewhere around 30% of fatal collisions involved a drunk or impaired driver, which going off that data, tells me that it's more dangerous to drive sober.

But on the other hand, if a cop pulls somebody over who was drunk, let's them go, and go ahead and actually causes a car crash then the cop is fucked because they could have prevented the crash.

Anyways, I hate "diversity is our strength." There's absolutely no data that shows this to be true, and that it actually causes a lot of problems.

 

[Demonslayer1776]

I get very tired of the typical "It was ok 2 years ago but now its gone too far" rhetoric. I notice its especially common among boomers. Every single time they're just drawing a new line in the stand and saying something is acceptable that they were bitching about the same way a few years prior. I'm not even opposed to potential compromise, I'm just sick of the disgusting level of capitulation on every issue. Grow a damn spine and believe in something for once instead of changing your rhetoric every few years to try and be socially acceptable.

I'd have infinitely more respect for these people if they said something to the effect of "Agree to disagree but we can meet in the middle" than the typical "well actually I agree with everything you believed in a couple years ago, but now its gone too far". Maybe I'm just an adversarial cunt, but this constant need to try and appeal to everyone and have 0 conflict gets under my skin. I wish people were more honest and blunt. It seems like most people have few honest held beliefs, and if they do they're such total pussies that they won't honestly express them in any capacity.

In a similar light, I'm always bothered by the people who seem to change their opinion drastically because on personal relationships. A typical example are boomers who were extremely opposed to homosexuality, only to become strong supporters because their cousin or friend turned out to be gay. Were you so plainly ignorant and stupid that you never even considered the possibility someone you knew could be gay at the time? Why should I believe you're any better now? You're the same ignorant fool with complete tunnel vision to any outside possibilities.

People in both of these groups also seem to be extremely critical of anyone who disagrees with these newfound beliefs, which is extremely ironic considering they often held them a few years before.

 

[Gog & Magog]

If you support A it follows you must support B and C, D, E, F, G... and X, Y, and Z!! And if you support Z you are evil and I may disregard everything you have to say.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

"Black people have always been oppressed little victims who dindu nuffin wrong......except if they disagree with us white liberals/the nigger hivemind in any way, in which case, fuck you, dirty Oreo piece of shit!"

 

[Saddam Hussain Obama]

I hate the whole lazy china bashing shtick

 

[Shidoen]

"Muh god and muh jeebus" none of these politicians care about god and jesus, they're a bunch of hedonistic retards who have orgies and eat babies.

 

[Evil Ash]

Hate speech isn't free speech."

It literally is. The Supreme Court has ruled, categorically and unambiguously, multiple times, on this exact fucking thing.

The US is the only western country (maybe even the only country) that even stands by this anymore. All it takes is some unfortunate court packing by a leftist president and the US can kiss it's free speech goodbye.

Violence and videogame.

Fuck Australia, and I am sure there are other places just as bad. I hear there are many adult games that are completely banned there.

"if you want to be a free speech activist, you're gonna have to defend a lot of racists"

I won't even care if I have to personally defend someone who constantly calls me subhuman filth. But if they lay their hands on me, I'll be breaking bad.

The term "woke."

When someone goes "woke" it means they are having a psychotic break, just stand back and enjoy the frothing.

I think DWI/DUI punishments have become a bit crazy,

Cars are a necessity in many parts of the world. The fact that people can get their license revoked, permanently in some places, leaves people stranded with a useless hunk of junk that they can't legally use.

the idea of talking points in general.

I propose all candidates get kidnapped by the FBI while they are sleeping, and dumped in a televised room without their knowledge, and forced to undergo dangerous challenges. I hear it brings out the authenticity in otherwise closed off individuals. It worked for Shaquille O'Neal and Dr. Phil.

The "We shouldn't kill pedophiles, we should just castrate, a find a way to rehabilitate them or just register them in sex offender registry" talking points I've seen when Florida approved Total Pedo Death law, with side talking point of "We as people can't get to chose who lives and who dies, and we can't let the government do that too because they'll just abuse it" I seen in this pseudo-libertarian circlejerks

Look, I would do some nasty shit to anyone who would get near my kid (if I had one). But unless you have been dealing with pedophiles personally, or at least know someone who has, some of you lads need to calm down. Most of us do not live under Sharia law. It's innocent until proven guilty for each individual crime. Yes the government might have fucked a number of us over, but they have never sent death squads after us, the fact we are posting here is proof of that. Prison, surveillance, psychiatric wards, medication, lists, insults, but lets not get physical, They are the criminals, they are in the wrong, we must lead by example. Besides, don't we have our inside man Mr. Bubba to handle the more undesirable elements of our criminal justice system? Also castrate? my god that is sick, our penalties for torturers in many parts of the world isn't even close to being as harsh as this.

 

[Mr Bunny]

The "people are gonna do it anyway" talking point that normally gets brought up on the topics on banning drugs, guns or abortion, I find it's a lazy argument for why you should get rid of a law or not bother to propose a law.

People break laws all the time that's not a reason to object to proposing a law banning this thing or a reason why you should get rid of a law banning something.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

anything along the lines of "trust the science" or "believe the science" or "the experts say" has solidified in my heart as my number one hated piece of rhetoric that has cropped up in the last few years.