What restrictions should there be on voting

I've seen some people in this thread, as well as in other social media websites, mentioning that non-whites and women should not have the right to vote. Whenever they do this, jokingly or not, (often not clear, because of 'Poe's law'), they fail to provide an adequate argument for their claim, other than faulty generalizations, ad hominems, anecdotal claims and sometimes no arguments at all.

It's obvious that voting rights are not going to be taken of non-whites and women, and if you think otherwise, (I don't underestimate the intellect/perspective of people on the Internet, nor the lack of it), you will be disappointed.
In other words, you're expressing your desire of what should happen, (a desire/political stance that is based on racism/sexism by definition, or if you prefer, "race/sex realism"), without providing a convincing reason.

My point: Not seeing comments like: "Women/Blacks should not vote.", (which won't happen), works better for everyone rather than seeing them, something that fuels the idea of 'systematic', or simply 'wide spread' racism/sexism.
I'd encourage people to actually fight against laws or beliefs that are truly archaic, whenever there is an acceptable argument against it, instead of being a moronic masochist saying: "Women belong in the kitchen."
 
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I think adolescents and felons should be allowed to vote.

The ban on felons encourages governments to pass laws that turn more of their rivals into felons.
Any age restriction allows the government to screw over newer generations to appease older generations.

The point isn't to have responsible citizens but rather to have a system where all peoples interests are represented so that we can create a balance that benefits everybody. People act in their own self interest and part of that is screwing people over.
 
Jeremy Galt said:
If you don't own land, you have no skin in the game, No voting for you...... That would take most of the cities out of contention and the rural people would be in charge, as is right, fitting and proper.
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Then the government will just spend even more money to pay farmers for popcorn that'll just rot in silos forever.
 
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AnOminous said:
Felons should be given a double vote to discourage making more felons.

Murderers should be given a quadruple vote to encourage more murders.
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I get that you're poking fun at the idea but that would actually encourage a certain party to make more felons.
 
This would probably work out terribly but only letting people with a record of military service (2-4 years), with that same requirement on any government job.
 
I would make an excellent king.

This voting situation is way overblown. Why even have it if so many idiots pull the levers???
Just judging by the people in congress, or government in general, these are supposed to be the "smart" people. If that's the case, then voters must be the "stupid" ones.

Oh, OK, I get it now........
 
No Chads or Stacies should vote. Only epic GAMERS.

Though seriously I'd advocate for a proportional voting system as opposed to creating anymore restrictions on voting.
 
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no restrictions/as little as feasible. any one that finds ways to exploit the system obviously cares more/is smarter anyways
 
Everyone should run for office and everyone should vote. If your country can't handle a 14 year old who goes about making Hitler Did Nothing Wrong jokes then something is wrong with your nation.
 
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I could go with the staples such as having kids, owning land, being a net taxpayer, etc

But for a fun one: how about showing you can set up an internet connection using only devices and technologies from the 1990s, assume everything up until the end-user is already done for you, you're given a router, modem, desktop, and necessary software CDs/floppydisks. If you can't get AIM up and running, you're out!
 
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Besides voting being pretty gay and almost anything can be abused, but some general things would make voting actually functional for more than a circus sideshow.

1. No dual citizen can vote or hold office. Too much conflict of interest.

2. Taxpayers only. If you do not have a job or rely solely on assistance you should not have a say. This leads to people offering gibs in exchange for votes. You only vote if you have a vested interest in the game and you have a stake in it. We don't need junkies and people on public assistance or things like that voting just to have more gibs. Assistance should exist, but if you subsist on that alone you shouldn't be making decisions like who rules the nation.

3. No women who are not mothers. Women who aren't mothers are a bit too rootless and fluid to go any which way. Once she has children and is tied down to a given nation or people then she can have a say and will think more reasonably like what's best for her children as opposed to being solely moved by pity or empathy to others.

4. No foreign born people can vote even if they become citizens. Kinda fits into the dual citizen thing.

I'm sure there's a lot more, but those are some of the more solid ones that don't involve straight up balkanizing the country.
 
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KimCoppolaAficionado said:
"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"
-Winston Churchill
Making suffrage an entitlement and not a right guarantees a slow death for it.


Citizen service inevitably leads to stratocracy, with the "servant" class deciding on further rights for themselves and making their class more exclusive.
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If implemented like Heinlein suggested, you don't let currently serving members vote.
 
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