What’s the Solution to the Non-Spontaneous Rioting?

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Something occurred to me, the riots that occurred last night pretty much lined up with the 'red line' maps MoveOn and affiliated groups used to coordinate protests during Trump's impeachment.



A few other people noticed something about this seemed a little too wild. There's other examples from Twitter, I'm just going to point at a few already mentioned on the Farms.



RedState published this article about dealing with pre-planned protests. I don't necessarily agree with the tactics but thought it's time to start a discussion. Something that surprised me tonight was learning that BLM and even some ANTIFA groups were caught off guard by the amount of violence that occurred, various people cited provocateurs kicking things off.

The guy who wrote the book on counter-insurgency was Sir Robert Thompson. I encourage you to read his Wikipedia page and think about how that lines up with what RedState has to say. Concerned there's a fifth column at work seeking to maximize the distance between law enforcement and otherwise peaceful protestors. Maybe it's something to monitor for that can be discovered through close observation.


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What’s the Solution to the Non-Spontaneous Rioting?

Is it a coincidence that there are “spontaneous” riots occurring in a number of US cities since George Floyd was killed by a cop in Minneapolis? There are no coincidences, especially in the Age of Trump, but how can the rioting be stopped? Here are some actions that need to be taken:

  • Arrest all violent protesters breaking the law (looting, destroying private property, setting fires, interfering with public safety, etc.)
  • Interrogate the rank-and-file protesters to learn the names of the organizers and organizing groups.
  • Find out who paid/underwrote the organizers and organizing groups.
  • Prosecute the funders, organizers and organizing groups for conspiracy and under the RICO Act to the fullest extent of the law.
  • Made a public example of the perps as a deterrent to further lawlessness.
  • Punish politicians supporting the rioters as accessories after the fact. Make a public example of them, too.
  • Those politicians who agitated on behalf of the farcical “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” and “Black Lives Matters” movements need to be outed and publicly shamed for their cynical fomenting of divisiveness in support of personal political objectives.

Seems to me that all started – or at least was exacerbated GREATLY – during the Obama regime, as Eric Holder’s Justice Dept looked the other way, and “Reverend” Al Sharpton was brought in as an adviser to stir up racial discontent.

Find out why the Democrat-run city of Minneapolis did not properly train its police officers in correct police procedures, as every cop in America will attest. Find out why they (and other city mayors) let the looters run wild over the last couple of days. Who made that decision?

Punish the supervisors, police commissioner(s), and anyone who had an opportunity to properly discipline the cop who killed George Floyd (reportedly, Amy Klobuchar was one of those who could have done something but chose not to).

Take all the aforementioned actions, and then watch the riots disappear and become a thing of the past. It’s a simple matter of upholding the law and providing equal protection under the law for all Americans.

Getting back to the “non-spontaneous/not coincidental” aspects of these riots, there is a high likelihood that they are being perpetrated in order to shift focus away from the devastating release of the Flynn-Kislyak phone transcripts, which expose the criminality of not only the FBI but all the entire Mueller team who KNEW that the Russia collusion narrative was a complete farce. Heads are going to fall, and Democrat lawyers are going to be disbarred while facing criminal sanctions for their actions.
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Bullets, and lots of them.

I'm curious - why don't we see US cops using non-lethal dispersion methods like rubber bullets, water cannon, tear gas etc? If it's because of the PR and politics - lol, given the alternative seems worse, and you can't even say the risk of injury or deaths from rubber bullets is more serious than the violence we're seeing now. Or are they just not effective - I'm not terribly conversant with how good such things are?
 
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Bullets, and lots of them.
This is why I'm glad I'm not in charge, such a move is tempting.

Thompson talks about Economy of Force and the importance of not overreacting to provocations.

What a bullet could do, access to digital communications at the NSA could do better. Or knowing who was at a given site via cell phone records. Just the fact someone was at more than one protest site could expose an entire network.

Concerns me that Trump has troops on alert. One misstep and a lot of people die.
 
I'm curious - why don't we see US cops using non-lethal dispersion methods like rubber bullets, water cannon, tear gas etc? If it's because of the PR and politics - lol, given the alternative seems worse, and you can't even say the risk of injury or deaths from rubber bullets is more serious than the violence we're seeing now. Or are they just not effective - I'm not terribly conversant with how good such things are?
Because most non-lethal methods aren't 100% guaranteed to be non-lethal and all it takes is for one person to have a bad reaction to them and you now reignited the protests. And in the end of the day the only people that matter are the rich ones that have an insurance for their shit and gated communities to prevent joggers from coming in.
 
Because most non-lethal methods aren't 100% guaranteed to be non-lethal and all it takes is for one person to have a bad reaction to them and you now reignited the protests. And in the end of the day the only people that matter are the rich ones that have an insurance for their shit and gated communities to prevent joggers from coming in.
Those sound cannons are some shit, and will clear streets as fast as you can move them.
 
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But what if someone menaged to get the list of passengers who take a flight to Minneapolis and the hackers publish them by pretending then this is the list of the rioters? :thinking:
 
Those sound cannons are some shit, and will clear streets as fast as you can move them.
Didn't the military develop (but never used) a "heating cannon" which would heat up the people who got near this device? Not lethal. And as a side benfit the memory of the victims would associate the user and wouldn't even dare to go near them again. But this device went against the Geneva conventions so it was abandoned. Or probabaly sits in some locked away storage.
 
Didn't the military develop (but never used) a "heating cannon" which would heat up the people who got near this device? Not lethal. And as a side benfit the memory of the victims would associate the user and wouldn't even dare to go near them again. But this device went against the Geneva conventions so it was abandoned. Or probabaly sits in some locked away storage.
That might have been a claim coming out of China. I recall something similar to it purportedly being developed over there, a couple years back.
 
Same solution as spontaneous riots - The National Guard

Didn't the military develop (but never used) a "heating cannon" which would heat up the people who got near this device? Not lethal. And as a side benfit the memory of the victims would associate the user and wouldn't even dare to go near them again. But this device went against the Geneva conventions so it was abandoned. Or probabaly sits in some locked away storage.

They did experiment with directed microwaves as a way to deter crowds (either civil or military) and it did show the ability to make you nauseous and uncomfortable at a distance, but for whatever reason, development to full maturity never happened, with likely some "But muh human rights" pleading throw in too. They also tried to develop a strobe light that would blink at the perfect frequency to be so annoying to the human mind that people would naturally turn away from it... but that got axed because someone complained it could set off those who get seizures who may fall and hit their heads, and if 1 in 1,000 may accidentally have a lethal response to a non-lethal weapon, well, then it's a no-go..... who cares if you just saved 999 lives?
 
That might have been a claim coming out of China. I recall something similar to it purportedly being developed over there, a couple years back.
Found it. Here is this thing I mentioned. It's a microwave cannon.


Though as I said this thing should not be part of the military arsenal
 
Except that most of the media is liberal and will portray the riots as people struggling against oppression but would portray anti-riot measures as authoritarian fascism.

Let em... it'll fall on increasingly deaf ears. Kids remember getting spanked by Mom and Dad and will generally not continue to be brats, even if all the touchy-feely child psychologists in the world say that's no way to raise a kid... you don't help by letting Junior tear apart his room and telling him "stop and you'll get ice cream".
 
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