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When Did Men Become Drama Queens?​

Anyone arguing that men are somehow the more rational of the sexes has a lot of explaining to do: The energy once reserved for fighting wars or building nations or surging ahead with glorious careers is now spent prancing and preening on mic, on camera, online. The news, the issues, the ideas are just an excuse; what matters is the performance, the opportunity to deliver a perfect star turn of high emotional wattage to the applause of an adoring crowd. War, but make it theater.

We saw this happen first with the left, which established the mechanism whereby news headlines—which often turned out to be mostly or entirely wrong—were used as instruments for emotional blackmail. People who refused to emote the way posters wanted them to would find their own humanity questioned: SO YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT RACISM? I GUESS YOU HATE WOMEN! YOU WANT TRANS PEOPLE TO COMMIT SUICIDE AND DIE.

As others have noted, this was a particularly female form of politics. But it worked so well that many of the men who initially found it horrifying have decided that if you can’t beat the catfight, you should join it. That’s why you see Theo Von breaking down and crying, holding his head in his hands while he weeps, trembling subtly to make sure you feel his pain. Or why the Collected Tweets of Darryl Cooper, the historian who doesn’t believe in facts, reads like a script from the Mean Girls franchise. Or why everyone who has ever worked for any media outlet is posting videos of weeping kids in Gaza. These days, X is just a bunch of grown men having a string of histrionic outbursts, projecting the sort of ululating emotion that, in an earlier age, would’ve called for a fetching of the smelling salts and a loosening of the corset. If you question the facts underneath their feeling, you are challenging the entire premise of the only thing they have to offer on that platform—which, more often than not, means you’re also challenging the way they make money.

Take, for example, the latest kerfuffle over Joel Berry, a writer for the popular satire site The Babylon Bee, who suggested on X, after stray Israeli ammunition accidentally hit a Catholic church in Gaza, that many among the very small Catholic community living under Hamas strongly support the terror group. “True Christian faith still exists in Gaza, but it’s all underground,” Berry wrote. “Anyone allowed by Hamas to practice openly is allowed to do so only because they aid and support the terror regime.”

It’s a controversial opinion, one that merits discussion and deserves a factual cross-examination. Instead, this is what one popular pundit, the Rev. Ben Johnson, had to say: “Joel Berry’s ‘Christian deaths don’t matter if they aren’t evangelicals’ is the anti-Catholic, anti-Orthodox, prideful faith of the modern day Protestant Pharisee. Closing your heart to the suffering, death, and destruction of the innocent is the faith of the Antichrist.” He was hardly an outlier in sounding like a mental patient suffering a terrible relapse: Most other critics who took Berry to task hardly bothered addressing his claims or refuting them with numbers and figures. Instead, they summoned the most hysterical imagery they could dream up to portray Berry as a monster.

In a scene reminiscent (nearly a carbon copy) of the spring of 2020—when millions took to the internet and the streets to argue that police officers were racist thugs on a continuous murderous spree to kill innocent unarmed Black Americans, even as the data showed the opposite—this week, a new set of hysterics is screaming, say, that very violent settlers burned down an ancient church in Taybeh, all facts to the contrary be damned. If you disagree, you clearly HATE CHRISTIANS AND WANT THEM TO DIE.

In his seminal work, Manhood in the Making, the anthropologist David Gilmore showed that disparate societies that have almost nothing in common and whose cultures vary wildly still maintain an almost universal notion of masculinity; they teach it to young boys by requiring them to demonstrate both their ability to unleash their aggression (in hunting, say, or fighting enemies) and their capacity for stoicism in the face of great danger and pain.

Our therapeutic age seems to have dissolved this timeless tradition, turning men in particular not only into emotional wrecks but also into campy figures who believe that the only way to signal their worth is by having some sort of very public and very emotional meltdown for others to admire. Instead of engaging in battle—of ideas if not of fists—they demand the other side be silenced. Instead of taking pride in remaining rational, calm, and ready, they pursue the theatrics of emotionalism, knowing well that no other currency matters.

Which is good news, really: Like that emotionally manipulative girlfriend you had in college, the new hysterics hold sway only if we let them. They’ve nothing to offer but their howling; laugh them off and tune them out, and they will, eventually, disappear.
 
@Catch The Rainbow

I couldn't help but notice you specifically avoided answering this question.
I think he has me on ignore because he ALWAYS avoids answering my questions

after reading the headline, i wondered which self serving group wrote this. the point of this article is that its ok, great even, that Israel bombs christian churchs and kills christians in gaza because they're fake christians that support hamas. the real christians are protestants who worship in secret. if you were a real man and not a fake soybaby you'd cheer israel on.
Israel is satanic, no Christian should ever support satanists.
 
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The response to an article calling out men for acting feminine by refusing to discuss objective reality and having histrionic outbursts has been full of men refusing to discuss objective reality and having histrionic outbursts

Fucking hilarious how unselfaware you people are right after reading an article detailing your exact behavior
To be fair, we're posting on a gossip site. We're all histrionic faggots.
Why do you think a right wing guy hates you
Because we are mouth breathing knuckle dragging simian creatures (goyim).
 
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Isn't fighting war dramatic? Male debate podcast spaces and internet message boards are like a modern proxy for war so it's not surprising. Just look at people like Ethan Gunt.
 
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Is this really a question that begs pontification? For years boys have been told to act more feminine and now we are shocked pikachu face that they act like women? K…..
This is just Mossad trying to shame men into dying for Israel by invading Iran.

Seriously read up on the Mossad. Those fuckers never ever stop. It's the real reason a lot of western countries have been pissed off at them. They assasinate people all the time on foreign soil and give zero fucks about it.

They want war with Iran and they wont stop until they get it.
 
"Men are weak and dramatic and effeminate!"
Source: idiotic twitter drama.
Ignoring Catch the Schlomo, or the every single time that wrote the article, its immensely comedic that both of them took twitter drama that seriously
 
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Is this really a question that begs pontification? For years boys have been told to act more feminine and now we are shocked pikachu face that they act like women? K…..
Kind of like how they told white people to never interreact with black people and now they're shocked that we don't.
 
The idea that men are unemotional is a bizarre modern revision. Men have always been emotional, just not in a traditionally feminine way. Their emotions are outward, combustible, and tied to pride, action, and legacy. They rage, they fight, they build monuments to their egos. Male emotion fuels both genius and destruction. Stoicism was never proof of emotional absence; it was a safeguard against the chaos men are capable of unleashing. History didn’t teach men to be stoic because they feel less, it taught them to be stoic because, left unchecked, their feelings can burn the world down.
 
Because we are mouth breathing knuckle dragging simian creatures (goyim)
You guys think we hate you, it's strange


This is just Mossad trying to shame men into dying for Israel by invading Iran.
Again asking for any statements that suggest in the slightest this is the case. You're flattering yourself by pretending people want you so you can feel like the victim

"Men are weak and dramatic and effeminate!"
Source: idiotic twitter drama.
Ignoring Catch the Schlomo, or the every single time that wrote the article, its immensely comedic that both of them took twitter drama that seriously
Twitter crosses into real life often. It's also funny that you can't refute anything I say, just constantly bitch
 
Twitter crosses into real life  sometimes, not often. (And thank goodness for that, who wants Kpop stan drama to cross into real life often)
political twitter crosses into real life often.

What is there to refute exactly? What you said was more or less a smug non-sequitor.
No one is addressing the meat of the issue, just engaging in performative victimhood just like most of the thread.

Or pointing out how they reacted hysterically to an event that didn't happen
There's no actual conversation about what the article points out or self reflection on if there might be an issue.

Picking a handful of people who have no credentials or decision making authority having emotional reactions in the moment says nothing about stoicism or masculinity,
The problem is that the right has tons of influencers with no credentials or decision making authority influencing people through constant "emotional outrage". Their whole gimmick is emotional outrage that is designed to leave their audience feeling victimized.

When the objective reality is that the official ZIonist position is everyone will believe this, this and this about Israel and stand with us or you're an antisemite and possibly a Nazi, who's actually operating off emotional bias?
Notice that in the article, the journalist never once tells you how you should feel about Israel or how everyone who criticizes Israel is an antisemite. He simply points out that if you have the wrong opinion and are outspoken about it, you will be swarmed by performative outrage.

@Catch The Rainbow

I couldn't help but notice you specifically avoided answering this question.
I pointed it out earlier. I don't interact with that user because he and I live in different realities and there's no point in talking to someone that believes in such a different reality
 
political twitter crosses into real life often.
Is it the chicken or the egg?
IMO its not that discourse on twitter often crosses into real life, its that discourse on twitter occasionally winds up mimicking the discussion that happens in real life. It looks like it crosses into real life, but in reality it was already present
There's no actual conversation about what the article points out or self reflection on if there might be an issue.
Since you've provided something of substance, and not a smug non-sequitor I'll address what I can.

Before I say anything however, I will say that I am a regular of USPG2, and have seen you in it. You are not immune to the histronics and rejection of facts you claim. I only say this to ask that you get off your high horse and attempt the meaningful discussion you requested rather than smug posting.

With that said, let me begin
We saw this happen first with the left. . .
This is patently and apparently obvious; not worth discussing
That’s why you see Theo Von breaking down and crying, holding his head in his hands while he weeps, trembling subtly to make sure you feel his pain.
About what exactly? If he's shedding tears over the Browns in palestine, yeah thats gay. If its over personal suffering or loss of family or close friend, thats different. I will not take the face value provided here, as no context has been offered either.
Or why the Collected Tweets of Darryl Cooper, the historian who doesn’t believe in facts, reads like a script from the Mean Girls franchise.
No context is provided here either. Additionally Im expected to take tweets as gospel, which is stupid. I'm not sure what "objective reality" I'm supposed to gain from this article when it doesn't explain what its talking about and just assumes I'll understand
Or why everyone who has ever worked for any media outlet is posting videos of weeping kids in Gaza.
It tugs at the heart strings. They've always done this, and will continue to do it. We as humans (including men) are more emotional than rational beings (to our detriment as much as benefit). Emotions are more compelling than facts, which tend to be dry and uninteresting. Anyone worth his salt combines both to make the facts compelling, and the emotions rational.
outlet is posting videos of weeping kids in Gaza. These days, X is just a bunch of grown men having a string of histrionic outbursts, projecting the sort of ululating emotion that, in an earlier age, would’ve called for a fetching of the smelling salts and a loosening of the corset.
What does he mean "these days?" Twitter was  always like that. Its always been histronics and retarded drama.
[idiotic cats v prots drama]
I know both you and the author are jewish and thus don't have the insight here, but there definitely are a lot of Protestants that are rabidly anti catholic, and a lot of catholics that are rabidly anti protestant. It would not shock me if both parties of thay debacle were partially correct.
Instead of engaging in battle—of ideas if not of fists—they demand the other side be silenced.
None of the examples the author presented demanded that (aside from maybe the lefties). What the author may also miss, is that these battles so to speak are not just who has the better excel spreadsheet of The Facts™ its also who is the most articulate, who is the most compelling, and who can get people to resonate with their side. To some degree it is just silly melodrama, but to some degree its an attempt to take the dry and uninteresting facts, and make them actually compelling.
 
Or why everyone who has ever worked for any media outlet is posting videos of weeping kids in Gaza
you really thought you could sneak this one in there huh

turning men in particular not only into emotional wrecks but also into campy figures who believe that the only way to signal their worth is by having some sort of very public and very emotional meltdown for others to admire.
Is this really a new thing we had emo music for like over 20 years ago now
 
About what exactly? If he's shedding tears over the Browns in palestine, yeah thats gay.
This is referring to an incident where theo von cried about muh gazans


No context is provided here either. Additionally Im expected to take tweets as gospel, which is stupid. I'm not sure what "objective reality" I'm supposed to gain from this article when it doesn't explain what its talking about and just assumes I'll understand
A major flaw of the article is that it is written for the terminally online and provides no context. Martyrmade regularly makes histronic and emotional arguments against Israel/Jews to the point where he comes off as a weepy bleeding heart.

It tugs at the heart strings. They've always done this, and will continue to do it. We as humans (including men) are more emotional than rational beings (to our detriment as much as benefit). Emotions are more compelling than facts, which tend to be dry and uninteresting. Anyone worth his salt combines both to make the facts compelling, and the emotions rational.
You're correct but heart without the brain is useless.

What does he mean "these days?" Twitter was  always like that. Its always been histronics and retarded drama.
It's gotten worse as the right starts infighting and people engage in verbal struggles

I know both you and the author are jewish and thus don't have the insight here, but there definitely are a lot of Protestants that are rabidly anti catholic, and a lot of catholics that are rabidly anti protestant. It would not shock me if both parties of thay debacle were partially correct.
The problem here is less about the actual facts and more about the performance done where no one was able to talk through things rationally because they were too busy acting offended

None of the examples the author presented demanded that (aside from maybe the lefties). What the author may also miss, is that these battles so to speak are not just who has the better excel spreadsheet of The Facts™ its also who is the most articulate, who is the most compelling, and who can get people to resonate with their side. To some degree it is just silly melodrama, but to some degree its an attempt to take the dry and uninteresting facts, and make them actually compelling.
The main problem is that the facts are optional here, we can see that in the outrage over the church that was "burned down". It was fine but the objective facts were ignored as they didn't cater to the influencers story of prosecution and outrage. There's taking dry facts and making them compelling then there's actually dispensing with the facts altogether.
 
This is referring to an incident where theo von cried about muh gazans
Yeah thats pretty gay
Martyrmade regularly makes histronic and emotional arguments against Israel/Jews to the point where he comes off as a weepy bleeding heart.
That still doesn't really help, any examples?
You're correct but heart without the brain is useless.
The reverse is also true.
It's gotten worse as the right starts infighting and people engage in verbal struggles
The right wing was also always this way, it just didn't have the opportunity due to being banned from everywhere.
no one was able to talk through things rationally because they were too busy acting offended
I'd assume they  were offended, again cats vs prots is a real thing. And like I said, both on some level were probably rational since both were probably right. You should know something about that experience.
There's taking dry facts and making them compelling then there's actually dispensing with the facts altogether.
Yes, that happens. The facts are slow and dry, and the narrative is fast and compelling. The narrative gets spun up much faster than the facts, and by the time the facts arrive, typically the narrative has ended and something else is being discussed, or Alternatively the facts are reported by some obscure outlet no one knows about.
Other examples include the ghost of ukraine, and the pile of beheaded babies in Israel.

Ultimately dont really see the author describing a trend in men, I'm seeing the author describe the internet. Additionally I resent the idea that neither he nor you are given to such behavior, even on occasion, and that I should accept an uncharitable comparison to retarded twitter drama and slap fights as valid and worthy of deep introspection.
 
You guys think we hate you, it's strange
I've been told that I'm a knuck dragging mouth breathing simian creature for being concerned that Americans would end up getting roped into a conflict with Iran.

Leftist Jews hate us (to be fair, they also appear to dislike religious Jews as well). Perhaps not all religious Jews hate us, but it's a non negligible amount. At best, religious Jews are indifferent to us, but gunt guard lefty Jews and the religious Jews who do hate us.
 
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