Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

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Liz, you do realize that when you break the internet and anonymity and censorship disappears, that it will lead to you and your friends being outed for your pedophilic bullshit, and when the pendulum swings the other way your degeneracy will be so completely cleaned from history that it would be like you were never born, right?

What, you think discord is going to somehow skirt around this so you can groom and coom? Why is it that the smartest people are the most retarded in the end?
 
It's amazing how quickly and steadily I radicalized from "What do I care how someone lives my life," to "these mentally ill retards need to be gassed en masse." I was always of the opinion that it's not my place to police other people's lives. Then, suddenly, "not caring" became not good enough. You were either a radical trans ally, who was willing to fight to the death for them, or a bigot, complacent in anuddah shoah.
 
I used to date a girl who I met through her sister. It didn't last very long, but I stayed as a respectfully distant friend to the sister, who I kind of saw as the little sister I've never had. A few years after she goes trans, takes t he name of a constellation and has gone from overweight to obese. I lost contact for a while until I logged onto my Instagram for the first time in probably a year today and I see that they're having a really hard time and tried reaching out to me while posting public "I WANNA DIE I WANNA DIE" images one after another for weeks. She's poly, furry, autistic, trans, hugely unhealthy, disowned their family, and still, the worst thing is that they're alone and adrift. In spite of their poly group, they seem completely alone. The inward facing conclave that's formed around her will never tell her anything she doesn't want to hear, at her peril. It's so clearly a cult, and like a cult, I cannot do anything, especially since this cult is socially celebrated in ways that say, Heaven's Gate was not. What are you supposed to do when denouncing Jonestown gets you called a bigot by your social circle and society at large?

I just don't know what I can do now. I want to hug her and tell her that she still has so much. She has a family that misses their daughter (hell, they'd rather have a son than no one), she has 50-60 more years to live and love, and most importantly she still has the power to fix her life. The only problem is that getting out means leaving the community she perceives as having saved her life.

It hurts so badly not being able to help. I'm sure she's feeling so much worse experiencing it firsthand. Every time I speak with her, it's like she's dead and damned.

I'm sorry I couldn't help, L.
 
Isnt Harvey Milk the gay terrorist who wanted to tell children in classrooms about gay sex?

I have no idea, but I do know he was shot up by an office worker who was screwed over multiple times by him and Moscone.

The left tried to paint it as a hate crime (including the Dead Kennedys), but the truth was far more mundane than that.
 
Isnt Harvey Milk the gay terrorist who wanted to tell children in classrooms about gay sex?
He also, at age 33, fucked 16 year old boys and wrote letters encouraging teens to run away from home and shack up with him:


EDIT: and he firebombed his own shop then called it a hate crime. Jussie Smollett if Jussie were a statutory rapist, too. From "The Mayor of Castro Street," the Milk biography written by his close friend Randy Shilts:
An explosion shattered the night. Shards of glass sprayed across the sidewalks of Castro Street. Castro Camera’s windows had been blown out by the M–80 mega-firecrackers; explosions shattered three more Castro Street stores within minutes. Supervisorial candidate Harvey Milk was on the front page of the next morning’s Chronicle saying that, once again, Anita Bryant has goaded anti-gay violence. Years later friends hinted broadly that Harvey had more than a little foreknowledge that the explosions would happen. “You gotta realize the campaign was sort of going slow, and, well…” the confidante lets his voice taper off.
Amazon or Libgen have the book if you want to verify the quote. I saw it online years ago in some column (Washington Post maybe?) that has since been scrubbed from the Internet, apparently.

In summary, Milk was a gay rapist psychopath child-abusing monster who the Navy (naturally) has honored with a ship in his name:

 
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Fun fact: San Francisco Democrats including Jerry Brown, Harvey Milk, Willie Brown and others were huge fans and promoters of Jim Jones.
Also huge fans and promoters of NAMBLA, and I don't mean the much maligned North American Marlon Brando Lookalike Association.
The other one.
The one that wants to fuck kids.
 
So another longtime lurker and first time poster,

I can't say transgenderism has ever made sense to me even I had more "live and let live" attitude back in my late teens. However, a few events in the past few years have peaked me. I would say my journey started when I started watching content made by TFP Student Action which is a Catholic group that goes around the country mainly posting videos about them arguing about topics like abortion and other topics.

Their videos on transgenderism did kinda open my eyes as to why it didn't make sense. Their arguments were kinda softball as their arguments basically boiled down to, "If I say I'm x, why does that make me x." However, it did make me think, "huh, you know, maybe it's not the best idea to just let people say they're the opposite sex and give them access to stuff they shouldn't if they were still male or vice versa."

However, the final nail in the coffin for me aside from my return to faith which inevitably made me view it in a different light regardless, was finding out about agp around 2021. That combined with me reading the different trans threads like the tranny slideshow thread made it the point of no return, The realization that most of if not all of them were just perverts and or mentally ill made it so I can never look at them as normally sound people ever again.

Sorry for being rambly as a new fag, but i just wanted to get this off my chest.
 
A facebook group I was in got into "genital preference" discussion. A troon made a post about it and then raged out at all the men who said "actually, I don't want to suck another persons dick." And most of the group rallied around them when they said that not liking dick made you a bigot. I guess in hindsight that post was a honeypot to get all the "transphobes" in the group to out themselves. I'm not going to give unsolicited comments about what I find attractive, but they asked, and then got mad when people answered. Y'know there was a time when accepting that people can't help who they were attracted to was core to the message of gay rights. I don't know how we got from that to "suck the girldick bigot." What happened to "people should be allowed to love who they choose to love"?. I just remember thinking "this is incel shit, this entitlement to sex is no different to male incels." And that's when the penny dropped, they talk like male incels because they are male incels. As much as they embrace superficial femininity the way they think about sex is just so male. I should have screenshotted it, but at the time I just left the group in disgust.

There were some hairline fractures before that. My first real encounter with troonism was on Something Awful over a decade ago. I read some E/N thread and it was talking about how biologically trans people were more like the opposite gender because brain scans showed they were wired up differently. My first reaction was "I don't think that's true", but I was live and let live back then so I figured, hey it doesn't matter if I don't understand, as long as they aren't hurting anyone. Then I saw someone on twitter talking about how the only difference between the sexes when it comes to sport is differences in funding and sports science. They meant it in a "let me play football with the girls" sort of way, but I remember thinking, this isn't a case to let trannies into womens sports so much as a case to get rid of sex segregated sports altogether. Yet somehow I don't think they wanted that, they wanted access to womens spaces, but they didn't want those evil cis men to be able to follow them in. Finally about a year ago I discovered r/egg_irl, what a fucking dumpster fire that sub is. The thing that shocked me is that they have such a rigidly defined idea of gender roles. You can't simply be a non gender conforming person, if you have any traits that aren't stereotypes of your gender you must be in denial about being a tranny.

I should have just listened to my instincts. I knew it was wrong, but I didn't want to be a hateful person. Like many people in this thread I had a "what's the harm?" sort of attitude. I don't know how my politics lines up with the typical KiwiFarms user. I supported Bernie in 2016 and 2020, I think I'm well to the left of the average American on most issues. But IdPol has rotted left wing spaces from the inside out. And transgenderism has risen to the top of that. Ironically the priveliged upper class white people who IdPol was originally fighting against found that they could change their pronouns and jump to the front of the oppression olympics. Suddenly you're not a mediocre white man anymore, you're literally being genocided, you're basically Anne Frank! I guess that's the natural outcome of privelige theory.

Anyway, that's what drove me to the Farms. I discovered them over a year ago when the site was on the clearnet and I remember reading the Lowtax thread to find all the shit that had gone down there since I washed my hands of Something Awful. But I also saw there was an entire subforum dedicated to trans people. I remember thinking "wow these weirdos have a fixation." But I get it now. They really have overtaken so many spaces. You can't avoid them It's actually quite impressive for a group who are such a small slice of society. I wouldn't have a problem if they were happy to just coexist with others in those spaces. But that's never enough, they require constant affirmation. They are hungry ghosts constantly seeking validation from the outside world. But it is never enough, no matter how much society accommodates them, no matter how well they pass it doesn't seem to please them. They just become more sensitive to real or perceived slights against them. I still don't have the same level of hatred that some people in thread do. I feel sorry for anyone who has gender dysphoria, they got dealt a shit hand in life. They are unwell people. But if your way of dealing with that is to force the rest of society to walk on eggshells, then fuck you. You're not going to solve an internal problem by externalising it like this.

I guess the last piece of the puzzle was seeing how they just refuse to respect other people's boundaries. I can't help but feel that a lot of them get a sexual thrill from intentionally violating other peoples boundaries. There was that Biden admin guy who got caught stealing luggage so he could wear womens underwear. If you as a grown man want to wear womens underwear you can just buy it. But that wasn't enough, it needed to be someone else's underwear that was obtained without that persons consent. Going back to the genital preference thing the thing that finally got me was imagining a similar rant from a cis person. They'd get laughed at for that level of entitlement. But when it is a tranny people circle the wagons for them. It's like transitioning is a way to no longer have to follow societies rules of acceptable behaviour that the rest of us are stuck with. Someone way up thread said that male homosexuality is male sexuality unburdened from female expectations. Well as far as I can tell TIM transexuality is male sexuality unburdened from societal expectations of how a man is supposed to behave. If you're a weird and horny man you're expected to control that shit. But put on a dress and suddenly you're the one being oppressed if others don't want to deal with you being a gross weirdo.
 
The biggest thing was realising I could think up any far-fetched, nonsensical opinion that could possibly be held about this stuff, type it into the Twitter search bar and find someone declaring it to be their sincere belief. "You don't need gender dysphoria to be trans." What the fuck are you doing it for, then?!

Bongland, so currently the "child identifying as a cat at school" is in the news. Cue online leftists saying "this isn't really happening, people aren't identifying as cats" and getting a few thousand likes for their efforts. Search bar. Cat therian. There you fucking go, took five seconds.

And then, of course, "oh, when I was in school someone actually wore cat ears for weeks and everyone thought it was funny". Firstly: not the same, is it, because you were not called "despicable" by your teacher and exiled from liberal social circles for not affirming it? And secondly: seems to be an observation commonly made by TERFs, but no matter who first made note of it you can hear the gears of it's not happening, and it's good that it is grinding over and over.

Other highlights:

Among all but the most committed cis allies, it's difficult to find concrete support for specific policies or concepts. Support for trans women in female sports is rarely even qualified with "the right to live as your authentic self is paramount and exclusion would be in violation of this principle." They literally know it is, in most sports, unfair. If you asked them for a list of pronouns they would use they wouldn't be able to answer. Why would there be any neopronouns they would not adhere to if they recognise non-binary identities as valid? The implicit answer is because they know it's fake shit but can just about stomach a they/them because it's at least a word that's already in their vocabulary.

Before I'd read much about this I remember actor/comedian Robert Webb making some vague statement along the lines of "Mermaids [UK trans kids charity] are a bit shit, aren't they?". What's it to him, I thought, beyond possibly being a way of flogging a few more copies of his "it's OK to be an effeminate boy" memoir? Then he and David Mitchell were seemingly ambushed at some interview: look, here's a parent of a trans kid and he says Mermaids is good, actually, so there. Fair cop, water under the bridge. And then years later the reveal that Mermaids had a paedophile rights advocate as a trustee. No reckoning, no "hmm, that guy might have been onto something after all", and that's before the influence on the Tavistock and the breast binders.

No, I can't always tell, at least at first glance, but it's bleak when you clock a TIF from their silhouette, such that you don't know what their gender identity is (man? non-binary? some sort of genderqueer?), but you know it's a female person who does not wish to be known as a woman.

The early Day of Girlhood where he's literally prancing about in a park being chased by a bee. If someone asked me to do a sexist parody of a woman I couldn't do better. And of course the irony that he's apparently now a lesbian, meaning a gay man has literally been converted into being attracted to women.

The absolute vitriol with which detransitioners are treated by some trans people. You're trans and always have been, your identity must be affirmed lest an atmosphere conducive to genocide be allowed to ferment, until you're not, in which case "skill issue, malding, you knew the side effects, this bitch thought she'd look like Justin Bieber but she looks like Kyle Gass."

Very little uptake of pronouns in bio among people I went to school with and none that I know of among men or anyone who's actually gay.

Lastly, as I'm surprised at how massively prevalent it is this year, even while scrutiny of gender ideology seems to ramp up. From a leftist perspective, the optics of the progress pride flag are shit. "Hur dur guys, we forgot black and brown people could be gay too, we need to add them to the gay flag as if those concepts are the somehow equivalent. Oh and trans people too." Motherfucker, if you forgot that's not my problem. I assumed trans people would've been covered under the universal, if intangible, concepts represented by the original rainbow pride flag, but thanks for highlighting that actually these things are not the same.
 
I used to not give a fuck. I'm heavily pro-freedom and my philosophy can basically be summed up as "do you, boo."
I'm keeping details vague, but my point should come across just as well. I'll save the stuff with the grooming kids for another time since I have enough here without it.

I watched the feminism and SJ/woke bullshit slowly escape from the universities and into mainstream institutions from the beginning. I saw the harm in their generalizations and rhetoric. I saw the way they forced their beliefs and agendas on others and ruin the lives of those they don't like that day. I was still in school when various -isms like racism and sexism were being widely redefined as a way to not only silence, but attack and demean the corresponding -ists. I always took issue with it and spoke my peace when relevant. This was back when you could without getting your professional and personal lives destroyed.

The first interaction I had with one of these beasts was a morbidly obese bio-female tranny who always wore a fedora. Idk how it identified/identifies, but I think it was something NB. Bear in mind, this was around 2013. As the sole member of the school's GSA (it was a small school), it put on an indoctrination session for the school where I first heard the redefinition of the word "gender". I don't remember a lot of that presentation, but I remember it boiled down to "it pisses me off when people get this wrong"—as if it's our problem. Even back then, I found all of the rhetoric very far fetched. I had heard of the "pregnant man" as a really young kid, and had the understanding some people dress as the opposite sex because it makes them feel better. If that's all it were, I wouldn't give a fuck. But now I had to fundamentally rewire how I perceive others and ignore all instincts built over millions of years that tell you "this rotund Gollum-esque figure I see waddling towards me is a fag." I never interacted with this individual, so it didn't really bother me. I just forgot about it.

In the mid to late 2010s, when all of the bullshit flooded into the mainstream, I noticed every community I held dear was taken over by troons and their enablers. Before that, it was furries. These were communities that, like others have noted, were based on fringe/nerd interests like experimental music or embedded and bare metal computing (real examples). Suddenly, rules get put in place to make everyone feel "safe", while those who said anything even slightly to the contrary were attacked, doxed, and ousted. Each community would inevitably fracture, and I'd only be able to wait until they found the next community I liked. It is my firm belief that every community goes to shit once it reaches a critical mass, reddit as a whole being a great example. These fucks catalyzed that reaction unlike anything that came before them. It's always these people who make one identifying characteristic their whole personality and identity who scream and cry the loudest when someone doesn't 100% agree with them.

What really started pissing me off was when they tried to redefine the B. They like to cite some bullshit feminist publication from many years prior as a source for the whole "two or more genders" lie. I'm bi, so this hit particularly close to home. First off, then wtf is pan? The second "she" has a dick or a gaping gash, I am beyond repulsed. Anyone who denies the obvious disconnect there is lying through their teeth. The same goes for the "men" with their salami swords.

As for "gender euphoria", isn't that just a fancy way of saying "being turned on"? I'm perfectly fine with myself, but I have never looked in the mirror and felt euphoria over being a man. Does that make me weird? Feeling like a woman, whatever the fuck that means, gives them a tingle downstairs that their increasingly disturbing habits haven't been able to anymore. It isn't inconceivable to think giving them access to pizza would give them the same rush. It's almost like thinking everything that gives you a boner is good could be how they got there in the first place...

The more they came into prominence and influenced others to join them, the more I had to deal with them. Having to call Greg from accounting in a wig "she" is denying reality, and it took having to deal with it myself to see that. It's like if you and someone near you were dealing with one and using the "correct" terms, the second it turns away, you two are going to be rolling your eyes at each other. Because you both ultimately know you're simply humouring it. We're putting on a performance to make others feel better about themselves, and often to perpetuate their disgusting fantasies.

Now, question: When has anyone outside of immediate family ever given a fuck about how you feel inside?

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The fucking Orion Giggly GoonClown turbofaggot nihilist coomer diaper shitting asshole. Dammit, fuck him.

Troonshit ruining community after community, troonshit ruining everything for everyone in some little way, troonshit making things harder for real women, troonshit suckering in men who need help as men who instead think it's just "changing teams", troonshit encouraging coomer nihilism, and now troonshit making people into shameless pedos who rant and rave about their young relatives.

Enough.
 
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