Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Smellee Cat]

For those who might wonder where we’re at with my daughter from my post many moons ago.

We stopped calling her by her androgynous nickname. There was a massive blow out argument spurred by regular teenage lunacy. We straight up told her that her belief she is a boy is inaccurate. Prepared for her to leave us forever to be with her bio mom (where she is called her preferred male name and pronouns).

At the end of the argument she went to storm off to her room with her phone. My husband had none of it and took it, causing her to nuclear meltdown.

15 minutes later, we’re with her on her bed as she dry-heave sobbed as teenage girls do. We hugged. We told her we loved her for who we know her as.

Guess what? Thhat weekly on/off schedule with her affirming mom… non existent. She’s with us almost full time, of her own accord. It’s like she was looking for an out.

This weekend she had her GIRLfriends over for a sleepover and the girlfriends have been over almost everyday after school eating me out of house and home.

There’s hope - but parents need to be firm and stop giving into this garbage,

edited for late night typos

 

[Bubble Ba'ath]

For those who might wonder where we’re at with my daughter from my post many moons ago.

It is genuinely nice to see a positive turn on something posted in this thread.

 

[batteredpancakes]

I don't know where to post this so I'm gonna post it here.

Spoiler: Angry tomboy rant

I'm so tired of this bullshit. I, once again, have people in my life questioning my fucking gender. Apparently being a tomboy isn't okay anymore, I HAVE to be a enby or transman. It's unacceptable now to be a woman without liking makeup or dresses. I am a adult female, I'm not even that masculine, I have long hair, I wear woman's clothes, I like men. I don't understand why that's not fucking enough. These fuckers have ruined everything. You have to be a living stereotype to be recognized for your biological sex these days.

Nothing before this has made me want to be feminine, but fuck, I'm thinking I should start wearing makeup and girlier clothes. I'm tired of being repeatedly questioned for something so basic and dismissed as being 'in the closet'. None of the conservatives and traditionalists have ever treated me as shitty as these fucking gender people have. At least the conservatives will acknowledge I'm a woman.


This is the death of tomboys.

I'm so glad I found this site. I'd be fucking alone in this without you guys.

 

[Positron]

Twitter thread (archive) where people shared what peaked them

 

[Cannibal Machine]

Nothing before this has made me want to be feminine, but fuck, I'm thinking I should start wearing makeup and girlier clothes. I'm tired of being repeatedly questioned for something so basic and dismissed as being 'in the closet'.

Hang in there, batteredpancakes. But from the bottom of my cynical little heart, DO NOT change yourself, don't change how you present, don't change the slightest thing about how you are. Because if you do that, it just reaffirms their dumbfuck opinion that gender stereotypes are inescapable.

We gotta be the ones to look at the troons and say with our whole entire chest "Yeah, I like to do "masculine" things and I don't want to attach a fetid rotdog to my pubes or cut my tits off, what's your fucking problem?"

But on topic again, good news! I am very slowly peaking my partner. I've been complaining about troons for months, and just last night, we were discussing how narcissistic, self obsessed, and mentally ill they are to want to do GRS. He'd always thought that GRS was solely paid for out of pocket, so he had a lukewarm opinion about people getting them, but when I informed him that these things are being covered by insurance he got so mad he couldn't speak for a good few minutes. Feels good, man. Feels good.

He still won't let me show him the pictures from the GRS thread though.

 

[Spud gun]

I never used to care to give them much thought one way or another. Then slowly they started getting on my nerves. They were they slowing infiltrating and ruining my hobbies and entertainment of choice and I started to see it around me IRL too.

I started to see the rainbow vomit faggatory infiltrate my work place, it's currently at the white people bad all other races better phase and will no doubt progress to the alphabet soup types before long. I started seeing trannies IRL, like outside the bus stop at work and around the local area but I still didn't really pay them any attention.

Keeping it vague to avoid any power levelling one infiltrated close to my family and started to poison the mind of a female child in said family. Fortunately it didn't go unnoticed and her close family members intervened before something drastic happened to her. Now I can't help but feel revulsion and distrust of trannies.

 

[Fapcop]

I don't know where to post this so I'm gonna post it here.

Spoiler: Angry tomboy rant

I'm so tired of this bullshit. I, once again, have people in my life questioning my fucking gender. Apparently being a tomboy isn't okay anymore, I HAVE to be a enby or transman. It's unacceptable now to be a woman without liking makeup or dresses. I am a adult female, I'm not even that masculine, I have long hair, I wear woman's clothes, I like men. I don't understand why that's not fucking enough. These fuckers have ruined everything. You have to be a living stereotype to be recognized for your biological sex these days.

Nothing before this has made me want to be feminine, but fuck, I'm thinking I should start wearing makeup and girlier clothes. I'm tired of being repeatedly questioned for something so basic and dismissed as being 'in the closet'. None of the conservatives and traditionalists have ever treated me as shitty as these fucking gender people have. At least the conservatives will acknowledge I'm a woman.


This is the death of tomboys.

I'm so glad I found this site. I'd be fucking alone in this without you guys.

You’re ok in my book Kiwi fren.

Just tell them that you’re a trans man transitioning to be a woman.

They’ll look confused for a second and then most likely just nod and leave it alone.

As insane as it sounds, I’ve actually seen cases of double trooning. Usually women who are “transmen” transitioning to “women”.

 

[batteredpancakes]

You’re ok in my book Kiwi fren.

Just tell them that you’re a trans man transitioning to be a woman.

They’ll look confused for a second and then most likely just nod and leave it alone.

As insane as it sounds, I’ve actually seen cases of double trooning. Usually women who are “transmen” transitioning to “women”.

These people aren't randos; they are people who have been in my life for years.
Strangers thinking I'm non-binary would suck, but it's less demeaning because at least they don't know me.

Though, funnily enough, I've never had strangers bring this stuff up to me. (not for a good few years at least)

 

[Souji Tendou]

As insane as it sounds, I’ve actually seen cases of double trooning. Usually women who are “transmen” transitioning to “women”.

I'm MtMtM, I take 3 doses of T a day, my muscles are like marble, my chin is a 90 degree angle, and all the fake transmen wish they were me.

 

[AssignedEva]

It was meant to represent transgender, transvestite, and transsexual all at once. When the latter two became deadly deathwords and verboten, the asterisk was dropped.

I remember when it was trans* women too! Why exactly did they change it? Because I remember one day it suddenly wasn't spelled with an asterisk any more for no adequately explained reason.

No one ever talks about it any more and I think likes to pretend it never happened, but the North remembers.

You just reminded me of something - The Gender Book. It was published as hard copies in 2013, so 10 years ago, but the authors started putting it together in 2010 and it was freely available online. It was very positively received at the time and shared around as a teaching resource.

This is a spread from it:
Trans gender is apparently being split into two words, and it's being used as an umbrella term. Incredibly, under the transgender umbrella there's some verboten identities. The age of the authors involved is given away by some of the terminology - transgenderist is a term from the 90s that basically meant halfway between a cross-dresser and a transsexual (kinda like gender queer I guess). Drag Kings and Queens are part of the umbrella, as are crossdressers. Gender non conforming people are optionally under the umbrella, like masculine butch women or feminine men (the idea was they faced discrimination and hostility for their gender expression, so could be part of the umbrella too if they want). And your eyes don't deceive you - MTFTM and FTMTF are on there, and those are detransitioners.

I was handed a physical printout of this back in 2012 as someone calmly explained to a room of people that we should update our policies to use the word Trans*, because it was inclusive of everyone under the transgender umbrella. Within a couple of years those very same people were calmly explaining we shouldn't use Trans* because it implied some people weren't trans enough to fit into the word transgender. Now nobody is calmly explaining anything any more, this image is transphobic and I post on Kiwifarms.

 

[Tangled Headphones]

When I was a young leftist I identified as a lesbian because of trauma preventing me from having relationships with men. I was dating a trans man. A fellow ftm friend learned of my calling myself a lesbian while dating a "man", and I explained that I could not include males in my homosexuality, for which she called me dangerous and sent her discord group to harass me. I think that was when I first realized how dangerous mtf rhetoric, and everyone who follows it, really is. Still feel somewhat bad for ftm tho.

 

[Kiislova]

Apparently being a tomboy isn't okay anymore

Being a tomboy is the largest "fuck you" to the enby and troon cult.
Hang in there.

 

[Souji Tendou]

When I was a young leftist I identified as a lesbian because of trauma preventing me from having relationships with men. I was dating a trans man. A fellow ftm friend learned of my calling myself a lesbian while dating a "man", and I explained that I could not include males in my homosexuality, for which she called me dangerous and sent her discord group to harass me. I think that was when I first realized how dangerous mtf rhetoric, and everyone who follows it, really is. Still feel somewhat bad for ftm tho.

Its so weirdly obnoxious to me, they could it could really be as easy as "lesbian because they got a uterus, not because of identification", but of course, TIMs wouldnt accept that as it fucks with their fetish...

 

[Rapunzel]

Recently and because of KF opening my eyes to the "behind the scenes" shit that the trans movement and media won't show.

I don't know where to post this so I'm gonna post it here.

Spoiler: Angry tomboy rant

I'm so tired of this bullshit. I, once again, have people in my life questioning my fucking gender. Apparently being a tomboy isn't okay anymore, I HAVE to be a enby or transman. It's unacceptable now to be a woman without liking makeup or dresses. I am a adult female, I'm not even that masculine, I have long hair, I wear woman's clothes, I like men. I don't understand why that's not fucking enough. These fuckers have ruined everything. You have to be a living stereotype to be recognized for your biological sex these days.

Nothing before this has made me want to be feminine, but fuck, I'm thinking I should start wearing makeup and girlier clothes. I'm tired of being repeatedly questioned for something so basic and dismissed as being 'in the closet'. None of the conservatives and traditionalists have ever treated me as shitty as these fucking gender people have. At least the conservatives will acknowledge I'm a woman.


This is the death of tomboys.

I'm so glad I found this site. I'd be fucking alone in this without you guys.

Yeah I've had more than I can chew now.

Spoiler: Angry tomboy rant plus 1

Dudette.... I don't wear make-up (I look presentable), I don't wear feminine clothes because I don't feel comfortable (showing my 'tism), I lift weights so I am muscular, I just don't do girly shit at all and I'm straight.

Always was a Tomboy, will be till the day I die because it's just what I am. I may not be a flowery female, but I'm female and I am like you, fucking tired of the bullshit.

It's OK to be uncomfortable in your body, it's OK to be male and like female shit and vice versa. I learned to be comfortable with being uncomfortable because I know my issues are partly personality (so not really an issue at all) but also planted deep in my brain (I have issues), and that's OK too.

Anyway, I think I'm peaking now because I've had enough and the more I see, the more horrified I become. The whole Alpha male movement hasn't helped because apparently, my refusal to accept being touched, spoken to like shit, accept my place as a subserviant female, jump into bed with every man, expose myself upon request; means that I must be a lesbian or trans.

10, 20 years ago, I could go out and just be me with no damn issues.

 

[batteredpancakes]

10, 20 years ago, I could go out and just be me with no damn issues.

Thats what fucking gets me about this shit. Everybody was cool with me being a Tomboy until about 2015. People were super encouraging for woman to do sports, have masculine hobbies, get stem jobs, etc. Guys would get excited to find a girl who was low maintenance and loves comic books, video games and all that shit. Now it's been tainted because men are scared I'll troon out on them. Normies see a girl who isn't girly as mentally ill now.

Fucking wild that this bullshit has destroyed woman's rights so effectively. This movement is full of men who hate women and women who hate women.

 

[Spud gun]

A large percentage of AGP troons are trying to use their troonery to have better success with and/or trick actual women into fucking them or just paying them any sort of attention because they weren't getting it as men for various reasons. All it does is highlight that they are the actual misogynists since they seem to think real women are too stupid to be able to spot them a mile off.

 

[Kiislova]

Guys would get excited to find a girl who was low maintenance and loves comic books, video games and all that shit.

Tomboy enjoyers on suicide watch

they seem to think real women are too stupid to be able to spot them a mile off

Other troons and especially handmaidens are hard at work telling them they totally pass!

 

[Feathers McGraw]

I've been saving up this PL rant for years now so I'm getting it out of my system. Sorry in advance.

Spoiler: PL sperging

About 13 years ago I was a naive 18 year old homo heading off to university. I'd never even met another gay and assumed that other members of the rainbow brigade were also fairly normal people wanting to live fairly normal lives. Oh boy was I wrong.

I met other faggots while there and standing out among them was a MtF troon who put almost zero effort into passing. I remember being chastised by others after meeting him for referring to him as a man when he was clearly a True and Honest Woman. Unfortunately I ended up dating someone who was friends with him, and even visited his house on occasion.

He lived on a nudist vegan commune in a "polycule" with other filthy degenerates. I remember feeling that these perverts made my skin crawl on a visceral level but couldn't articulate it at the time. After all, they were the oppressed victims of a cruel society, right?

This troon was a politicially active one and eventually made his way onto the national students union (NUS) board as their first trans officer. Truly a historic moment for stunning and brave women everywhere. Then he is almost immediately suspended when multiple women accuse him of sexual assault. It then transpires he has been running a Tumblr blog (under his own fucking name) where he documents flashing his girlcock at women on the bus, and masturbating in front of women in public.

After this point I really took a look back at all the troons I met over the years and realised it's not just 'a few bad apples'. Literally all of them were like this. It dawned on me that it is simply just a sexual fetish that they are unable to keep to themselves, and feel the need to force on others in society at large in order to make their dicks hard. Then the exisential horror set in of what is going to happen to society over the coming years as they become more and more accepted.

I'm honestly concerned about how vulnerable teenagers are nowadays. They don't even need to leave their rooms to have deranged eunuchs telling them to slice off their tits and inject themselves with bathtub hormones. My only hope is that greater exposure to troons will lead people to open their eyes to their true nature as I did.

 

[Broke Ass Centrist]

hit peak when i discovered the origin of modern theories on transgenderism (the whole john money thing), and realized that it exists only if you don't ask what the proper solution to gender disphoria actually is.

 

[Procrastinhater]

For those who might wonder where we’re at with my daughter from my post many moons ago.

We stopped calling her by her androgynous nickname. There was a massive blow out argument spurred by regular teenage lunacy. We straight up told her that her belief she is a boy is inaccurate. Prepared for her to leave us forever to be with her bio mom (where she is called her preferred male name and pronouns).

At the end of the argument she went to storm off to her room with her phone. My husband had none of it and took it, causing her to nuclear meltdown.

15 minutes later, we’re with her on her bed as she dry-heave sobbed as teenage girls do. We hugged. We told her we loved her for who we know her as.

Guess what? Thhat weekly on/off schedule with her affirming mom… non existent. She’s with us almost full time, of her own accord. It’s like she was looking for an out.

This weekend she had her GIRLfriends over for a sleepover and the girlfriends have been over almost everyday after school eating me out of house and home.

There’s hope - but parents need to be firm and stop giving into this garbage,

edited for late night typos

Well done. You probably saved your daughters life you know, and if you believe in that stuff, you likely saved her soul as well.
It can't have been easy for any of you.
The Cult is evil and it preys on confused kids.
I think you're right she was looking for an out.
She's lucky to have you, you know that?
You're good people and better parents.
Respect