Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Kalsarikännit]

TERFs are like the retarded cousins of troons. They both have their roots in Marxism and share the same autistic “Well if you disagree, that’s because you hate X” approach to criticism.

Just like with any other group though: Nazis, communists, Islamophobes, libertarians, you can find a nugget of truth here and there, among all the nonsense.

You hardly need to have studied women studies for half a decade, to realize that men who want to be women are most likely perverts.

They’re all man haters though. The only TERFs who aren’t lesbians are the kind of chicks who find legit cucks for husbands.
And they all have this weird near religious relationship to their private parts.

If you ever feel like taking TERFs seriously on anything but troons, remember that they are the crazy chicks who wrote “The Vagina Monologues” or consider it an important piece of theater art.

Relevant literature: SCUM Manifesto

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Having the concept of "Pride" explained to me as a kid back in the day made me think the whole people of sexuality/STD American thing was retarded. Never understood why anyone would celebrate people who were determined to become genetic dead ends or enjoy poop dick fudge packery. It wasn't until later (2013?) that I became aware of what a tranny was and how it differed from a transvestite. In the same vein, it made no sense to celebrate someone who lopped off their dick.

I see no reason to accept someone who can't accept themselves and mutilating one's body isn't helping the case. To demand that I view that as something normal if not noble is contemptable.

The reason why "pride" is so strongly emphasized is cope.

They need to cope with the fact that their sexuality turns them into genetic dead ends, that they're infinitely more likely to get infected by STDs, that they'll never find a complementary other half, that they'll be thrust into a world full of hypersexuality, hypo-sexuality, or extreme, unsanitary kinks, that their sexuality is indeed a defect that would never, ever exist in a perfect world, and that no amount of acceptance or tolerance from other people will ever change that.

For troons, it's even worse. At least some gays have been able to accept that their sexuality is an alternative lifestyle at best, some gays even go celibate if they feel that it's the best option for them. But troons are filled with self-loathing that no amount of "pride," or celebration by society, will ever quench. Something that will never go away until they stop trying to pretend to be something they're not, and can never hope to become.

 

[Poonocchio]

Throwing mine in here, the Yaniv ball wax debacle and his thread on KF.

 

[SaltyFanta]

The recent situation with Posie Parker being attacked, but more importantly the gloating from troons has really re-peaked me.

It is clear that a lot of troons want to abuse all of society, with a asymmetrical system in which misgending a troon is violence, but killing a woman (or trying) for the crime of saying no is a-okay. But that's sort of what it's always been, troons seeking to abuse all of society, looking back "I'll kill myself if I don't get what I want" is pretty obviously the actions of an abuser.

 

[Asian tech support]

But that's sort of what it's always been, troons seeking to abuse all of society, looking back "I'll kill myself if I don't get what I want" is pretty obviously the actions of an abuser.

Suicide baiting is a particular annoyance of mine. The chance of them following through with the threat is infinitesimally small and if they actually off themselves, they would have done it anyway. I'd probably respect them more. I've never come across someone, cow or otherwise, who in my mind successfully made the case for their demands after threatening suicide. The threat itself does tend to make a good case for the world being a better place with them not in it though.

Plus it's always faggots like Jake Alley or Lou Gagliardi who threaten suicide. God, it really grinds my gears.

 

[Seafarer]

TERFs are like the retarded cousins of troons. They both have their roots in Marxism and share the same autistic “Well if you disagree, that’s because you hate X” approach to criticism.

Just like with any other group though: Nazis, communists, Islamophobes, libertarians, you can find a nugget of truth here and there, among all the nonsense.

You hardly need to have studied women studies for half a decade, to realize that men who want to be women are most likely perverts.

They’re all man haters though. The only TERFs who aren’t lesbians are the kind of chicks who find legit cucks for husbands.
And they all have this weird near religious relationship to their private parts.

If you ever feel like taking TERFs seriously on anything but troons, remember that they are the crazy chicks who wrote “The Vagina Monologues” or consider it an important piece of theater art.

I think that people need to keep in mind that “TERF” is a term whose definition changes from person to person, I imagine you have the specific (and correct) definition of TERF, which is simply a RadFem who rejects that trannies are women. Some people define TERF to mean anyone who doesn’t think trannies are women, and, of course, those who define TERF to mean anyone who disagrees with them (basically just interchangeable with the modern use of the word ‘fascist’).

 

[Poonocchio]

I think that people need to keep in mind that “TERF” is a term whose definition changes from person to person, I imagine you have the specific (and correct) definition of TERF, which is simply a RadFem who rejects that trannies are women. Some people define TERF to mean anyone who doesn’t think trannies are women, and, of course, those who define TERF to mean anyone who disagrees with them (basically just interchangeable with the modern use of the word ‘fascist’).

Yep, "everyone who is grossed out by trannies is a TERF" the same way "everyone I hate is a nazi".

 

[JaneThough]

Lou is especially egregious with the suicide baiting. He’ll suicide bait over dropping spaghetti sauce, not getting enough donations for a new tablet, getting yelled at by his mother, getting asked if someone can send him food rather than money, etc

 

[gamerweeb1]

I'm new here. I came to this site because I reached "peak trans" fairly recently.

The insanity of the whole "Lia Thomas" situation last year was what caused me to start having serious doubts about the transgender movement. It made me realise how many of my fellow liberals had truly let go of their common sense and rationality in the name of "inclusion". Since then, I've become completely opposed to basically every "trans rights" thing the far-left is pushing for.

It's bizarre because I am left-leaning on almost every other issue, but I am now a "far-right" bigot because I don't want children being injected with hormones. I have been banned from Reddit and GameFAQs for my views, and so now I find myself on this site filled with far-right Trump supporters.

 

[Wikipedia]

Leftist media has been so thoroughly hijacked it's insane. Any meaning thing leftist try to produce or push for is couped by lunatics. Either that be feminism or better workers rights are hijacked by these people who simply make us into laughing stocks. They speak of communism and consumerism yet they consume more than most, and alot of them are petit bourgeois who benefit from the systems they despise. They're too dense to write theory and too scared to fight. Even the capitalist ones go against their ideology. I've met a few who are not that bad. But the propaganda and false hoods they promote makes me more mad then anything.

 

[GloriousScarf]

I'm new here. I came to this site because I reached "peak trans" fairly recently.

The insanity of the whole "Lia Thomas" situation last year was what caused me to start having serious doubts about the transgender movement. It made me realise how many of my fellow liberals had truly let go of their common sense and rationality in the name of "inclusion". Since then, I've become completely opposed to basically every "trans rights" thing the far-left is pushing for.

It's bizarre because I am left-leaning on almost every other issue, but I am now a "far-right" bigot because I don't want children being injected with hormones. I have been banned from Reddit and GameFAQs for my views, and so now I find myself on this site filled with far-right Trump supporters.

As a life long lefty I've been told I got brainwashed by the alt right. Having opened my eyes to the trans bullshit, I did go through a period where I questioned a lot of other beliefs that I held, ok I was wrong about this, what else am I wrong about? I no longer trust anything I see in the media, I guess I was naive before on that point and should have known better.

I haven't changed my stance on any other typical lefty issue apart from the troon shit BUT I am more willing to look into both sides of an issue which I think is ultimately better lest I get tricked again and it's childish to immediately dismiss the 'other side' off the bat.

 

[Poonocchio]

It's bizarre because I am left-leaning on almost every other issue, but I am now a "far-right" bigot because I don't want children being injected with hormones. I have been banned from Reddit and GameFAQs for my views, and so now I find myself on this site filled with far-right Trump supporters.

Welcome to the Farms. You've probably heard a lot about this place, and how every one is an evilnazibigot who wants everyone who isn't straight, white and male dead. Some might. But there's a VERY eclectic group of people gathering in these forums. It's not a hivemind by any means.
Enjoy your stay, fellow newfag Kiwi!

 

[Bubble Ba'ath]

This site has a forum culture that is very against The Current Thing. If you go back to 2013 when conservative culture war sperging in general society was much stronger it is a far less right wing looking place. But even today its hardly the cartoon its reputation makes it out to be. I mean, I wouldnt bother being here if it was all just right wing culture warriors as that is very much not my thing. As you newbies stick around more you'll see its much more a place with a variety of different people like the good ole pre-consolidation internet and this is part of the fun.

Our recent growth has been fueled by people like yourselves who are less from a particular background and more just getting peaked by endless troonery and victim mentality and realizing its very difficult to have an honest conversation about this anywhere else because its the cause du jour (and a disproportionate amount of troons are social media and tech people who try to bury any criticism).

 

[Low IQ Outlaw]

I've been lurking the farms on and off for a while now (initially it was mostly the YandereDev thread that kept me interested), but never really bothered to create an account, up until today. So hello everyone, please make sure to tell me I'm a retard if I mess something up.
There were mainly three things that made me reach 'the peak'.
First, a far right website I randomly stumbled upon (I'd gladly link but I don't think many people here speak hungarian), it has a dedicated section which documents the insanity of these people. Just like many others, my opinion on this topic was 'as long as they don't force me to play along, their lives are none of my concern'. After reading a few of those articles, that changed. I felt sick to my stomach. Stuff like them having sex with children and filming it, advocating to change 'mother/father' to 'parent 1/parent 2' (and just changing the meaning of words in general), the never-ending crybullying, calling people who disagree with them nazis and fascists, trying to force hormone drugs on kids, harassing women etc. made me fucking mad. I can't even begin to describe how disappointed I am to know that all of this heinous shit is swept under the rug, and mentioning it will result in the usual 'you are just transphobic' nonsense.
Second, the Keffals fiasco. How in the everloving fuck can a person do all this horrible shit, and receive support from the general public? How is grooming teenage boys into trooning out, publicly supporting and shilling bathtub HRT aimed at children, and lying every single time you are called out considered perfectly fine, but documenting it is somehow evil and harmful? Impeccable logic right there, the troonshine he shoots into his neck is doing wonders for his intelligence.
Third, actually coming across a troon IRL. I was meeting a friend, I arrived a couple of minutes early to the spot we agreed on, and there was a flea market across the street. As I waited for my friend to arrive, I spotted a troon, heading to the aforementioned market. Imagine the most stereotypical tranny you possibly can: 5'o clock shadow, hairy arms/legs, wearing a tank top with a bra underneath, and a skirt. He casually strolled up to an old lady who was selling female clothing, handbags, makeup etc. and proceeded to buy an entire bag of clothes (including underwear), while repeatedly asking the poor woman if those clothes 'fit his style'. To say that people around him were weirded out would be an understatement. He also noticed because after taking a look around, his facial expression went from pure euphoria to anger, quickly paid for his shit and left in a hurry. There was a single thought on my mind: 'What the fuck did I just witness'.
I really hope this whole trans debauchery comes to an end, as soon as possible.

 

[Black Hole Vacation]

Meeting some MTFs in real life is actually what made me peaked me. I always assumed I was accepting of other people for differences they couldn't control, I always figured that being trans was just something that these people were unlucky enough to be born with or unfortunate mental illness from bad childhoods or abusive families. I felt bad for them, I assumed most other people did too, and I chalked their rapid expansion in the online spaces I shared with them to be a result of them having to hide their true identities in real life with this being their only true chance at self expression.
But after years and years seeing people I know become trans, meeting trans people who are clearly just using this as fetish fulfilment or escapism and the reaction to people who want to have a real discussion about these things I've given up attempting to understand these people. You mention one thing that goes against male gender stereotypes and you get bombarded with these people trying to suck you in to their cults telling you how much of a "repper" or an "egg" you are and it just makes me sad for the men who fall prey to it and the women their actions effect but at the same time I can't blame anyone else but them for continuing to fuck their lives up like this.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

A few years ago I had what could generously be described as "poor" dating prospects. Eventually I struck out a few times with the women around me yet I still craved intimacy. But I'm a tolerant, accepting guy, right? So I did what any good boy would do and I opened my compatibility settings to see trans women. The first thing I was struck by was the amount of blatant mental illness on display just insane amounts of trauma dumping in their bios. But I brushed this off as it's not super uncommon for women to do this too. The next thing that hit me was that most of the people at my selection were total hons who made the bare minimum effort to pass. Then I realised how similar all of these people were. You could sort them into piles of "socially awkward nerd" and "sex obsessed freak" with some going between. Despite all that I found one who had some okay pictures, decent job prospects and shared a few interests with me, they weren't the best looking but neither was I and I figured I'd much rather date someone who had a personality like mine so I was set for my super cool date!

When I got there the absolute first thing that hit me was the incel hunch, the broad shoulders, the big heavy man stomps and the giant man hands, years of being told that Trans women are women! immediately washed away as I was privy to the horror I saw before me. They would have been a handsome enough guy, someone who I'd probably be friends with and shoot the shit on Discord with at night but they decided to play fantasy delusion dress up with their life instead. The entire time I just felt embarrassed and sad for them they seemed like a decent enough person but then it started. "Have you ever thought if you're trans? " and started telling me about how "If your parents don't like trans people you can come and live with me " ON A FIRST DATE. From that moment on I realised that these were just mentally ill men looking for a way out, some form of acceptance, rather than any legitimate movement.

 

[batteredpancakes]

It's bizarre because I am left-leaning on almost every other issue, but I am now a "far-right" bigot because I don't want children being injected with hormones. I have been banned from Reddit and GameFAQs for my views, and so now I find myself on this site filled with far-right Trump supporters.

Damn. Take out "GameFAQs" and I could have said this a year and a half ago.
Though, now that I've been here long enough I'll tell you that this site has everybody. Gays, women, blacks, asians, leftists, religious ,atheists, even some trannies.
Ironically, this seems to be the more diverse places on the internet. Trans ideology is really bringing everyone else together.

 

[Gay Mollusk]

Spoiler: Angry tomboy rant

I'm so tired of this bullshit. I, once again, have people in my life questioning my fucking gender. Apparently being a tomboy isn't okay anymore, I HAVE to be a enby or transman. It's unacceptable now to be a woman without liking makeup or dresses. I am a adult female, I'm not even that masculine, I have long hair, I wear woman's clothes, I like men. I don't understand why that's not fucking enough. These fuckers have ruined everything. You have to be a living stereotype to be recognized for your biological sex these days.

Nothing before this has made me want to be feminine, but fuck, I'm thinking I should start wearing makeup and girlier clothes. I'm tired of being repeatedly questioned for something so basic and dismissed as being 'in the closet'. None of the conservatives and traditionalists have ever treated me as shitty as these fucking gender people have. At least the conservatives will acknowledge I'm a woman.


This is the death of tomboys.

I wanted to let you know that I'm a woman who's been in the exact same boat and so has my little sister. I've recently discovered that in most places you can call yourself Gender Non-Conforming and people mostly leave you the fuck alone. Tell them they can call you by "they/them" pronouns if it makes THEM feel more comfortable.

As for me, I've been peaked nonstop over the past few years. But it's come down to three fucking incidents that have made me absolutely lose it with these people.

Spoiler: 3 Strikes

1. I had a friend in high school who was a very stereotypical homosexual. Once he came out, he developed a lisp, which, admittedly, was probably a sign he was really impressionable. He never had it beforehand. He was nice for a while but then it became clear that I was in some sort of strange fag hag arrangement with him. He moved to another town when his spineless enabler father got a new job. Started to only hear back from him when he needed something. Eventually, along with being a homosexual caricature, he became a caricature of those 2010s tumblr kids. Fell in with the absolute worst crowd. Commie, UBI supporter, women respecter, absolutely insufferable to talk to. Eventually stopped talking to me because my boyfriend (whom I later realized he was trying to fuck) was too un-PC for him or some shit.

That boyfriend (now husband) and are profoundly autistic so we've been keeping tabs on him just in case. He decided to become a woman after breaking it off with all of his non-indoctrinated friends. Big mistake. Goes through with GRS. Possibly made some sort of realization that he does not pass, as he now identifies as agender. Evidently it was not enough of a lesson against the gender mob, as he still believes in all of it, now all he does is e-beg on twitter. Overall, my experience with him made me really apprehensive to gender politics, despite him initially convincing me to question my gender a bit.

2. When first getting into college, my one friend's father passed. Eventually we start hanging out again, I'm kind of blindsided. Decides to go by the female version of his name, cross-plays when we go to conventions (on it's own it's not that bad, I know a few relatively stable people that do it, and his costumes themselves are great.), and overall dresses like a lady but does not pass. It comes to light that in the wake of the tragedy in his life, he was being groomed online. Falling into weird sex shit, constantly talking with like one or two people. I feel terrible for not realizing it sooner.

Thankfully, his old friends and I managed to talk him out of it. He flat out admits he was trying to fill the void, and the constant praise and attention from the community fueled this phase of his life. I remain in contact with him and I'm thankful for his continued friendship despite me feeling like I had abandoned him in a time of need. By the end of all this I was fully aware of the horrific nature of some members of the trans community.

3. What finally made me dislike the majority of the trans community was my little sister. She's technically my half sister, so I didn't see her very often, very unique parental arrangement I have. Initially, I'd known her to be somewhat more feminine then me, so I presumed we had nothing in common. Eventually I start to get to know her more, find out she's exactly like me when I was that age. Her parents (my mom and step-dad) get divorced. She goes to our mom's half the time. I find out from our brother that when she's at our mom's, she goes by he and had been trying to make the rest of our family call her him. Immediately I'm suspicious. My mom's one of those ultra-liberal types that tried to use my bisexuality as an one against my conservative grandmother. She only really gave me positive attention growing up when I was some sort of ultra super special indigo child or some shit. Otherwise, ignored me at best, beats me at worst.

So I prepare to talk to my sister about whether or not this is the right choice for her, because I'm still a little naïve to this and think maybe this was my sister's choice to transition socially. Then my brother tells me my mom told her the name I was originally going to have as a boy, and I'm fucking livid. My own mother 100% groomed my little sister. I'm flat-out like, "Okay, this is over, you're coming to my house this weekend, I'm explaining to you in the best way my social retard self can muster that you are not a boy, and we are hanging out as much as possible until you realize this and are comfortable in your own skin."

The third time I finally felt like I made a difference. I see her all the time and now she's perfectly content with who she is.

I realize that these examples don't really talk about the community as a whole, but all 3 of them together have convinced that majority off trannies are people with NPD/BPD who want power over others, or genuinely tragic people who are being taken advantage of. Actual, real dysphoria, can be overcome through hard work and having a loving network of people around you.

 

[Asian tech support]

the absolute first thing that hit me was the incel hunch, the broad shoulders, the big heavy man stomps and the giant man hands, years of being told that Trans women are women!

Talk about being thrown headfirst into the fire.

He also noticed because after taking a look around, his facial expression went from pure euphoria to anger

Nothing get these AGP types off more than the euphoria from something/someone affirming their gender. Likewise, nothing brings them back to the hellscape of their own creation faster than the bewilderment and disgust from the average person.

I really hope this whole trans debauchery comes to an end, as soon as possible.

Feel like it's done too much lasting damage to be written off as a fad, but I'm super interested in seeing what the fallout will be in ten years or so. Tranny grannies and gen xers who've already had kids and done their damage will age and die while contributing little to nothing to the state of things but these under 30s will grow up and I suspect there will be some watershed moment akin to the NFL coming to terms how fucked up the players coming out of the league are from concussions and whatnot.

This future was thrust on a heck of a lot of innocent kids who've been knowingly sacrificed for this menace to continue to be propped up. Every day, TTD seems like a better option.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Every day, TTD seems like a better option.

"TTD?"

 

[Corn Flakes]

"TTD?"

Total Tranny Death. Come on, man. Get on with the times.