Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

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Well, modern ones anyway. The Grateful Dead dosed people as a prank all the time.
Citation needed. Acid was always something you needed to pay for. That shit was expensive to make.

The only involuntary dose things I ever heard of was when the Yippies were threatening to dose the water supply in Chicago with acid. The threat itself was a prank because LSD does not survive in water and it wouldn't have done anything, but it resulted in a huge freakout.

When did the Grateful Dead ever dose anyone involuntarily?
 
I am unsure if I have peaked yet, but I am getting there.
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I am sure there are some people with real dysphoria, and for them medically "transitioning" might be a viable help,
It's literally 2025. Current year +11 or whatever. How can you possibly not be peaked?

How can you believe "real dysphoria" actually exists. What is your theory for the actual mechanics of it? I'm not asking for the definitive answer, just how you think it might work. Do you think god is up there and sometimes just oopsy-doodle messes up sometimes and gives troons a true and honest female brain? Do you really think there is a physically measurable (ie not self-reported) difference between a male and female that measures as female for troons? That they wouldn't shout it from the rooftops if there were?

Is there anything that you think could cause you to "peak" and go TTD? How many board game nights where you meet a troon once, are nothing but polite, then they try to ruin your marriage would you need? 5? 10? Do they need to successfully break up your marriage for it to count?
 
I've already posted in this thread, but am inspired to post a 'peaking' sequel.

In the UK, the Supreme Court ruled that for the purposes of the Equality Act, 'women' means biological women, and not men with a gender recognition certificate. This means that single-sex spaces really can be single-sex and that has always been the case.

There are individuals and organisations in the UK who not only 'disagree' with the ruling, but are actively maintaining and implementing legal advice and policies that directly contradict the ruling. The ruling isn't ambiguous, legally or otherwise.

Trans madness continues its deranged march onwards, marching to a drummer only the morally compromised can hear.
 
They made their own.

There are tons of stories about them dosing people if you read books about the band. Here is one:
That's kind of fucked up but they didn't seem pissed off about it or freak out, which makes me somewhat suspicious it was something entirely surreptitious.
Also definitely fucked up. I generally associate the dosing with acid threat with the Yippies, who threatened to dump LSD into the water supply in Chicago for the DNC convention (which incidentally wouldn't have done anything).
 
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Figured I'd post my story here since it seems appropriate.

I first found out about trans shit during like 2020 when I was still in high school (yes I'm a zoomer) and for the longest time, honestly, I didn't really care much. I never agreed with the radical elements of the movement like the whole sports thing and jailing people for saying the wrong pronouns but I was perfectly fine with adults transitioning, as I believe in individual freedom. Honestly I still do feel this way but I never had any clue how bad the trans community was until I experienced their emotionally manipulative tactics first-hand.

I always loved being a guy, from when I was a kid. And especially when I got into college I became a lot more masculine and extremely proud of it. Having dreams of getting ripped, loved wearing suits, idolizing male characters in games and anime, wanting to go on dates with girls. And I also had been exposed to trans content a ton online, as I went down the extremely autistic terminally online politics rabbit hole in my freshman year of college. And I did see some of the freaks but because I only hung out in center-right/right-wing circles the trannies I got exposed to were the more "reasonable le epic based" ones like Taftaj and shit. But never once did I ever think that anything related to trans women that I saw or any aspect of what they went through related to me. Never felt any sort of gender dysphoria my whole life and never felt any kind of desire to be a woman, and as I just laid out, loved being a guy. In fact I remember at various points being happy I wasn't born a woman. Occassionally I'd have passing thoughts that were just like "Huh what would it have been like if I was born a girl" and shit like that but that's all they were, just fun passing thoughts that I briefly entertained and thought nothing of beyond that. I did also briefly have kind of a thing for trans women when I was a teenager but it was strictly just for wanting to be with one, not for actually being one. Never had any kind of serious AGP shit whatsoever and was exclusively straight. Around the time I had the thing for trans women I had like one fantasy where I was a woman but that was it and I thought nothing of it at the time, and completely forgot about it and generally kind of grew out of the thing I had for trannies for the most part afterwards.

Back in November I was fairly depressed, much more than usual largely just due to irl stress regarding college and work, and generally started feeling directionless in my life. One night while I was depressed and bored (and horny) I just, very randomly, remembered the one-off time from all those years ago when I had a fantasy of myself as a woman. And I thought it was arousing and decided to indulge it again. However, unlike the time I got off to it back then and just didn't care and moved on, this time was different. After I was done, the thoughts were still there... which I thought was very weird. But I was tired and just went to sleep. The next morning I woke up and everything was normal, I went to the bathroom as I usually would and then remembered the fantasy from the previous night and was like "Oh yeah what the hell was that all about?" ...I kid you not, in that exact moment, I felt this immensely unnerving anxiety and unease quite literally set in. And then a thought appeared in my head: "Am I transgender?" This very, very quickly spiraled out of control. I started feeling extremely disassociated and had no idea why the hell I was suddenly having these thoughts. Then, for some reason, I guess because it started with an erotic fantasy, throughout the day I started indulging it more, I guess thinking maybe that would satisfy the thoughts, but it only made it worse and made me even more confused. I was getting pretty desperate and looked up one of my thoughts on Google, I think it was like "Are you trans if you have fantasies of yourself as a woman?" What this led me to was, of course, none other than the subreddit r/asktransgender, where the very first thing I got greeted with was not only the whole "If you're even questioning it then you probably are", but also a gazillion other people asking "Am I trans or is it just a fetish?" and people replying with absolute bs like "It's never just a fetish, autogynephilia is debunked pseudoscience". And you can't forget about the people saying "That's how my egg cracked!!!" along with the whole "egg" thing in general. Up until this point, I had never been exposed to this side of the trans community. At least not this personally. I heard like one random leftist troon say something about the egg shit before all of this but at the time just thought they were a crazy person. You can only imagine my shock when I found that this stuff were the mainstream narratives in online trans communities, and that if you were to dare disagree with any of them you were an evil nazi transphobe.

Now in this moment I was also not in a sound state of mind, I was having distressing intrusive thoughts about being transgender coupled with sudden sexual arousal at some of these thoughts too and was desperate for answers. So naturally, what do you think happened to me next upon coming across this stuff? Absolute nightmarish pandemonium. The next two days after I saw this were a new kind of hell I never thought I could experience before. I was literally convinced it was real, that I actually had gender dysphoria now and that getting turned on by thoughts of being female was proof because of the whole "It's never just a fetish". That confident, happy man who I was so proud to have become, all those years of emotional and spiritual development, literally within two days it all got completely blown to smitherenes. I was beyond horrified, distressed, and even nearly suicidal, and had multiple breakdowns in front of my family. I did not enjoy the thoughts of myself as female, I didn't feel any discomfort with my body or anything like that, but I was absolutely terrified that I was transgender and literally could not stop thinking about it. Ultimately where I achieved some clarity was when, after having a breakdown and nearly being suicidal after, I came across what's known as "Transgender OCD" (or TOCD) while looking online. This is a subtype of OCD (not a separate diagnosis, just a possible theme that OCD can take on) where someone who is not trans or dysphoric and has been content as their actual gender their whole life suddenly starts having distressing intrusive thoughts that they are trans (key word is distressing, as in they do not enjoy these thoughts and don't want to be trans) in response to some kind of specific event, and do various compulsions to try and relieve them (like reassurance seeking and mental checking, etc.). When I saw this, I felt nothing but immense relief, because it perfectly described what I was going through. There was another explanation beyond dysphoria, and this one had substantial enough research backing it that even the degenerates on the mainstream trans subs (most of them at least) couldn't deny its validity. Now I have never actually been diagnosed with OCD, but I have had numerous past obsessions over stuff like friendships, nuclear war, getting fired from my job (over a stupid joke my boss made), and I even think racism at one point that were very similar in nature in how the thoughts appeared and things I'd do in response to them (like reassurance seeking), so it all kind of clicked into place when I found all this out. But I have to say that TOCD is by far the worst of these themes I've ever dealt with. Like it's not even close.

While I was relieved in the moment I then found the subreddit for TOCD and people suffering from it and began to heavily use it for reassurance which would just continue my OCD cycle for much longer, and I'm even still dealing with it now unfortunately. Once I found out what I was dealing with was almost certainly OCD and not actually any kind of real transgenderism, I stopped looking on those godforsaken trans subs and just stuck to the OCD ones and more moderate shit like r/detrans. Though I've realized as time has gone on that Reddit in general makes it worse bc it's just used compulsively so I've been trying to stay off of it. Ever since then it's been really up and down for me. I've had times where I've been better and times where it's been bad. The entire month of February almost and part of March I was in complete rumination hell, just having constant "What if I'm just in denial?" thoughts like every single day. Then after that though I was actually doing much better on my own for a good amount of time as I was staying off Reddit and trying to not do compulsions, until a couple weeks ago when I had a really bad relapse that sent me back down the spiral. I'm doing okay right now but I could be better and I honestly should seek treatment for my OCD and also get properly diagnosed. Thing is, at the start of dealing with this I saw a talk therapist who was completely unqualified and not knowledgable at all about OCD who legit tried to explore my thoughts as if they were real which left me feeling like I wanted to die for like two days afterwards, so I stopped seeing him and have generally been apprehensive about therapy because of it. That's another thing I hate so much about this, that therapists are wrapped up in this absolute chaos that is the trans movement. It's a shame, really.

But even though I feel (and hope) I'm past the worst of this, I feel my mind has been fundamentally altered and I'll never be able to see things the same way. Every single time now I see an attractive woman my brain constantly yells at me to "check to see how it feels to be her" and it's so annoying. I have no "gender envy" whatsoever when I look at women, no dysphoria, no euphoria unless you wanna count the weird AGP fantasies. This shit has made me feel completely disconnected from my old self, a man I was so proud of being all my life, and while I've been getting pieces and pieces of it back over time the damage has been immense and horrific. The fantasies in particular really scare me as they definitely can't be caused by OCD meaning I definitely have some tier of actual autogynephilia, and I literally don't know how that's possible considering I almost never had them at all and was exclusively straight before all this. I had them a lot in the first two months of dealing with this theme but lately they have thankfully decreased and I've gotten a lot of my normal straight fantasies back, which I find very relieving and means I definitely don't have any kind of chronic AGP at the very least but it's still extremely terrifying. But most of all, I blame the trans community's rhetoric around this shit. I was desperate for answers and scared and when I went to seek help thinking I could trust them, I was told that if you even remotely fantasize about being a woman then you are trans 100% without a doubt and if you say otherwise you're just in denial and are repressing and will be miserable for the rest of your life, and so you absolutely must experiment to find your "true self" and search your memories (yeah, my memories where I display no signs at all of this shit). They're quite literally encouraging obsession and paranoia. I saw someone once describe the idea of "questioning your gender" and all this nonsense as being OCD nightmare fuel and I certainly could not agree more. They have absolutely no idea how harmful these statements are, and I'm sorry the people who say this shit are unironically evil. They're in a fucking cult, and they deny it even though they literally have a goddamn bible (the "Gender Dysphoria Bible" to be exact). They have this insane obsession with turning more people trans that has done so much damage to so many innocent people, which unfortunately now includes me. Because if I had gone on those subs in my desperacy back then and was instead met with "Oh no you would've 100% known by now you just have a fetish don't worry", this story would have been far different. I likely wouldn't have lost months of my life to this that I now can never get back, and my self-image that I was once so proud of would not have been tarnished and distorted to kingdom come. I will never, ever forgive these people for what they've taken from not just me, and so many others. They seriously can go fuck themselves.

I just seriously wish I remained as I was before all this, because as I said, I never knew the community was this bad and degenerate. I literally had no idea. Apologies if this is too long and emotional but I think my story should be heard not just for people with trans-themed OCD, but for others who have been harmed by their insane worldview.
 
I just seriously wish I remained as I was before all this, because as I said, I never knew the community was this bad and degenerate. I literally had no idea. Apologies if this is too long and emotional but I think my story should be heard not just for people with trans-themed OCD, but for others who have been harmed by their insane worldview.
I don't mean to trivialize your frankly harrowing experience by posting a snappy clip from a TV show, but I will always insist this bit from the series Legion illustrates the trans situation perfectly (quite unintended by them, I'm sure). Please watch it.

A delusion starts like any other idea, as an egg. Identical on the outside, perfectly formed, from the shell you wouldn't know anything was wrong. It's what's inside that matters. [...] You see, an idea alone isn't enough. We have ideas all the time, random thoughts and theories. Most die before they can grow. For a delusion to thrive, other more rational ideas must be rejected, destroyed. Only then, can a delusion blossom into full blown psychosis.
You had a random idea, an otherwise harmless, passing sexual fantasy. But you briefly nurtured it, and it grew. Then you went into these communities, which are purpose-built to destroy the more rational ideas that stand in opposition to the invasive one.

Good thing that you managed to break free from it, even as it left you scarred. but the solution is right there. You feel like you'll forever be wondering how it feels to be a woman? That's another idea you can nurture and perpetuate, or instead, allow it to die on its own. It may take some mental discipline, but that's a great skill to have, so work on it.
Inoculate yourself against the delusion.
You will be ok.
 
I referred to him as “he”. A new member of the group told me I couldn’t do that, because this meant gender shouldn’t be respected if you don’t like the person.
It's sad that there are actual people out there who are this infected with tranny brain rot.

"You can't do that! How dare you call the crossdressing fetishist who raped his comatose elderly mother, a he!"

Your answer was exactly how you respond to these people. Straight to the point. They've created an entire vocabulary for the tranny topic which they require in order to convince people to accept things that are totally untrue.

Their entire premise is dependant on people not trusting their eyes and ears while also rejecting basic, universally known truths like babies being born either male or female.

In other words, it takes a tremendous amount of bullcrap to prop up tranny nonsense since it all falls apart with even the flimsiest scrutiny.
 
Every single time now I see an attractive woman my brain constantly yells at me to "check to see how it feels to be her" and it's so annoying
It's pretty normal to wonder what other people's lives are like. You're just noticing attractive women more because you're horny and overly fixated on women.

I've wondered what plenty of people's lives are like, men and women. If I'm driving past houses on a road at night and I can briefly see in a lit open window, I'll notice some decor and wonder what the rest of the house is like or what the people are like. Unless you have some disorder that prevents you from recognizing that other people have their own internal and external lives, it's not really uncommon to think about them and wonder what it's like to have an experience other than your own.

Do some research into breaking compulsive thought patterns in general without fixating on the gender part of it. Mindfulness exercises are probably going to be very good for you. The trick is to step out of the spiral before it pulls you in.

I do agree with you that the trans movement, especially online, is severely culty. There are also plenty of people who get sexual gratification from brainwashing vulnerable people into becoming trans. This isn't even new - sissification and defeminization were fetishes before the trans madness, they were just kept more private and recognized as a sexual fetish rather than some kind of valiant social heroism.

Delete the reddit app from your phone and see if you can block access to it through your IP.
 
Do some research into breaking compulsive thought patterns in general without fixating on the gender part of it. Mindfulness exercises are probably going to be very good for you. The trick is to step out of the spiral before it pulls you in.
Nonsense!

Barge uninvited into people's houses and ask them how they live their lives!

Actually no, don't do that.
 
That's what a NAZI would do. What an enlightened progressive would do is barge into people's houses and TELL them how to live their lives.
It's not the Gestapo if they're wearing cat ears and thigh highs. They're only trying to make a more inclusive safe space by getting rid of the dissenters!
 
It's pretty normal to wonder what other people's lives are like. You're just noticing attractive women more because you're horny and overly fixated on women.
Yeah, I don’t think there’s a man alive who haven’t thought “Gee, wonder what it would be like to be a woman? Wonder how sex feels?”

That’s just normal human curiosity.

I just seriously wish I remained as I was before all this, because as I said, I never knew the community was this bad and degenerate. I literally had no idea. Apologies if this is too long and emotional but I think my story should be heard not just for people with trans-themed OCD, but for others who have been harmed by their insane worldview.

I think most people in their 20ies have had some kind near psychotic break/OCD at some point.

You’re not as weird as you think you are. What’s really fucking you right now though, is the whole OCD cycle.

I’m not a huge fan of SSRIs, but one instance where they have proven their efficiency is OCD.

You might want to try and get on citalopram or a similar SSRI, even if it’s just for a couple of months, to break out of that cycle.
 
I keep meaning to post here and forgetting so here goes. I didn't post this in the losing people to transgenderism support thread because I don't give one single solitary fuck about this loser. I posted it here instead because I wanted to document one more instance of the thing that never happens, just in case it peaks someone else.

My initial mini-peak was in 2019-ish when several content creators I followed had troon arcs. At the time, I thought it was sus and seemed like a social contagion/religious ideology, but I didn't fully peak until the thing that never happens happened.

A couple years after my initial peak, a close male relative messaged me after years of no contact. I was happy to hear from him, but I started getting concerned when he asked me to call him by a different name that he claimed was "more gender neutral." His actual name is used for both men and women, and frequently chosen by pooners, so I was pretty nonplussed but I decided to hear him out. He proceeded to tell me how he's now a communist and a Satanist, pansexual, nonbinary, and transfem. I grew up with this guy and he's never shown any signs of wanting to be a woman or wanting to fuck dudes. It all seemed to come out of the blue, until he mentioned his new trans Discord and Reddit friends. I assumed it was a pretty straightforward case of getting groomed online and tried to be there for him, since I know it's important for people who are in cults to retain some sort of link to normality.

In the next few weeks, we continued to talk and he continued to make me more and more uncomfortable. He made sexual comments towards my husband, told me in detail about his relationship with an older man at work, detailed the drugs he uses, said that he doesn't think conservatives deserve human rights, and called a female family member of ours a bitch. The last one was the final straw for me. I told him that he was never to speak about any woman, especially the women in my family, like that. He blew up at me, called me a transmisogynist and a chud, said I was supporting trans genocide, and finally admitted that he was jealous of me since I was born female. I blocked him.

Weeks later, I find out from another family member that he was kicked out of his parents' house (he was literally living in their basement), and that he had been molesting the same (underage) female family member who he called a bitch. I can't give further details for the sake of my family's privacy.

This whole experience permanently took me from "this seems like a cult" to full TTD. I no longer care if I'm accused of wrongthink or shunned. Nothing is worth supporting an ideology that acts as a sword and shield for pedophiles, abusers, and creeps of the highest order. Long live the Farms, JK Rowling, and every other entity that's helped people reach peak trans without having to go through similar experiences.

FYI this guy was homeschooled, for anyone who thinks that alone will prevent your kid from falling down the pipeline. His mom did her best and is crushed by all of this.
 
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FYI this guy was homeschooled, for anyone who thinks that alone will prevent your kid from falling down the pipeline. His mom did her best and is crushed by all of this.
I feel like homeschooling might honestly make a kid more prone to being groomed, especially if they have unrestricted internet access. If he were to do any of the tranny shit at a real school, he'd probably be bullied. I imagine he also didn't fully develop socially if he lacked those core years of socialization.

Sometimes, bullying is good, if it gets kids to realize when they're acting retarded and stop. I think our "accept everyone, no shaming" society has forgotten that some things deserve to be rejected. Nothing having a social stigma anymore is how we end up with diaper furfags grooming kids on Discord being paraded around as "brave".
 
I feel like homeschooling might honestly make a kid more prone to being groomed, especially if they have unrestricted internet access.
Yep. The lack of irl social interaction and peer-to-peer relationships makes them crave validation and positive attention, while lacking a sense of what's appropriate behavior. You can't restrict a kid from both irl and internet socialization without turning them into a freak, and the former is essential for their development while the latter actively hinders it. This guy in particular found loli porn before he was even a teenager, and it was all downhill from there. Maybe he would have had those thoughts and urges regardless, but I personally think that shit fucked up his brain permanently.
 
15 years ago, I met a pedophile. I only knew this man for a day, but he tried to molest the younger sister of my friend while he was visiting their house. We kicked him out and never saw him again. (We should have called the cops, but we were all stupid kids.) Apparently he fucked off halfway across the country and came out as a "trans woman" years later.

I had already fallen hard into a TRA friend group by then.
What made me peak was realizing that I was constantly hearing trannies dismiss rape accusations as "transmisogynistic stereotypes" and "TERF lies". Then, after I heard this guy trooned out, I realized that none of my progressive leftist online friends would believe me if I ever brought this up. They'd make excuses for "her" trying to figure out "her" sexuality, or making a "one time mistake". Even one of the girls from my old friend group was fucking insistent I call this pedophilic man the "right" pronouns.

"Even if it happens, you shouldn't talk about it because it can be used to confirm the predatory stereotypes are true!"

What makes trannies look worse? Exiling a pedophilic rapist? or shunning victims for talking about actual cases of abuse?

Even the "good" ones say they stay quiet so they don't get picked on by the bullies. If a tranny really can't stand up for innocent victims, then I'm going to assume he's playing along because he's done something just as guilty as the people he defends. Same thing with the leftists and TRAs. I'm done playing along with rapist-lovers. The "good ones" better stand up and prove they're good, or their actions will be the only thing left to define them.
(But then again, in reality: There are men who work for organizations dedicated to ending child sexual abuse who have been found out to be pedophiles, too. They get access to victims through the guise of "helping" them. They get to listen to constant testimony of these children talking about the abuse they suffered. I know a girl who was serially raped by her grandfather who worked for one of these organizations.)

So if there are any "good trannies", they might just be trying to make themselves look trustworthy to potential victims. You always have to think about this and come to your own conclusion.

He was looking at this little girl like he wanted to wear her skin.
 
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