When it gets right down to it...

[A-№1]

Actually, no. Really, enjoying the sex itself was almost all of why he was so happy about it.

But Chris is hardly a reliable source.

Most people's first sexual encounter is awkward and disappointing (good sex takes practice, preferably a lot of practice), so what, really, are the odds Chris, of all people, managed to buck that trend? It doesn't seem very likely to me.

Chris' crowing about how good the sex was really sounded more like "protesting too much" to me. I think it's much more likely he was going on about it to convince the trolls, and also himself, about what a great lover he is (he expressly mentioned how the hooker "loved his duck") to stroke his ego, and also in a desperate bid to convince himself that the great moment he had waited and worked so long for wasn't the mediocrity it actually was. Chris would never admit, even to himself, that his years long fuck quest was ultimately pointless.

If the pleasure from the sex really was as wonderful as he claimed, I really think he would have paid for another hooker by now. But since he hasn't I think it really couldn't have been that good. Chris' actions speak volumes more than his words.

And a lot of people bring up the "being a man" stereotype with Chris, but no, Chris has never cared about being a man. That's a big thing with Chris. He never cared about fulfilling manhood stereotypes.

I didn't mean he wanted to be a "manly-man" man or fulfill whatever bizarre concept of masculinity he might have. I mean becoming a man instead of remaining a boy. I probably should have said "adult" instead. I think Chris believed losing his virginity would mature him; make an adult out of him. Not that he actually wants to be an adult. Certainly he doesn't want to fulfill any of the obligations of adulthood, but he does desperately want the trappings of adulthood. He wants the freedom, respect, and all the other things he believes adults get (while still being able to act like a self centered, irresponsible child).

I question whether he masturbates much nowadays, but I guess we don't really know either way.

Well if you ever do find out, I'd take it as a kindness of you keep it to yourself "to protect your source". Some details about Chris are way too detailed.

I used to think they were probably pretty detached to him as well, but when you consider he ate school lunch with them, cooked together with them in home economics, had them come for his birthday party, cheer him up when he didn't get the awards he wanted and danced with him at prom, I think they actually cared more for him than we'd like to think. I'm not saying they were BFFs, but I think they might have been genuine friends to him, just not to the degree that he likes to imagine.

I've always thought the gal-pals were probably more proto-christorians than Chris' version of how they were friends with him.

I think there's some evidence there that he could be schizophrenic, or coupled with his depression possibly schizoaffective.

I said somewhere else that even if Chris really doesn't have schizophrenia, he certainly acts like he does. And it would be better for him if he does have schizophrenia because that means his schizophrenic behavior is not his fault and also that he's treatable. If Chris acts the way he does intentionally, well that's just awful.

 

[Marvin]

Actually, no. Really, enjoying the sex itself was almost all of why he was so happy about it.

But Chris is hardly a reliable source.

Most people's first sexual encounter is awkward and disappointing (good sex takes practice, preferably a lot of practice), so what, really, are the odds Chris, of all people, managed to buck that trend? It doesn't seem very likely to me.

Chris' crowing about how good the sex was really sounded more like "protesting too much" to me. I think it's much more likely he was going on about it to convince the trolls, and also himself, about what a great lover he is (he expressly mentioned how the hooker "loved his duck") to stroke his ego, and also in a desperate bid to convince himself that the great moment he had waited and worked so long for wasn't the mediocrity it actually was. Chris would never admit, even to himself, that his years long fuck quest was ultimately pointless.

If the pleasure from the sex really was as wonderful as he claimed, I really think he would have paid for another hooker by now. But since he hasn't I think it really couldn't have been that good. Chris' actions speak volumes more than his words.

Chris isn't one consistent source of information. Some things Chris says are absolutely trustable, based on the specific environment in which he says them. And sometimes, they're obviously untrustable. Based on the story I heard, he's bullshitting himself and trying to bullshit his audience with the "love his duck" stuff. That's obvious to everyone.

But based on the other details, he obviously did enjoy the other portions. Chris is fat and doesn't have the physical endurance to be the penetrator and really enjoy himself. That's pretty clear. Being the dominant partner is something that would require lots and lots of exercise and lots of practice, neither of which Chris has/had. But there are other ways Chris could enjoy himself, particularly if the hooker knew how to deal with fat neckbeards.

And a lot of people bring up the "being a man" stereotype with Chris, but no, Chris has never cared about being a man. That's a big thing with Chris. He never cared about fulfilling manhood stereotypes.

I didn't mean he wanted to be a "manly-man" man or fulfill whatever bizarre concept of masculinity he might have. I mean becoming a man instead of remaining a boy. I probably should have said "adult" instead. I think Chris believed losing his virginity would mature him; make an adult out of him. Not that he actually wants to be an adult. Certainly he doesn't want to fulfill any of the obligations of adulthood, but he does desperately want the trappings of adulthood. He wants the freedom, respect, and all the other things he believes adults get (while still being able to act like a self centered, irresponsible child).

I guess this could be how he thinks. But I think it's probably more likely that he sees being an adult as inevitable, so he's trying to find the best adult slot he can. One that will let him have his fuckmommy and sit on his ass all day and play video games. So that's how he came up with the househusband thing.

 

[A-№1]

But based on the other details, he obviously did enjoy the other portions.

I'm not saying he didn't enjoy it.

I'm just saying he didn't enjoy it nearly as much as he wants people to think he did, or as much as he wished he had.

Certainly he didn't enjoy it enough to make it worth repeating (unless you have some info on another hooker I'm unaware of). Despite his crowing, losing his virginity turned out not to be everything he hoped it would.

I guess this could be how he thinks. But I think it's probably more likely that he sees being an adult as inevitable, so he's trying to find the best adult slot he can. One that will let him have his fuckmommy and sit on his ass all day and play video games. So that's how he came up with the househusband thing.

Well yes, he will think of himself as an "adult" no matter what now, but only because he has absolutely no idea what adulthood really entails. What I'm saying is he recognizes there are some things that come with being an adult, like being able to make your own decisions about when you can go outside and what store you can go into, and he knows he doesn't have those things, and he desperately wants them, but he has absolutely no idea how to actually get them, and he somehow thought losing his virginity was a step in their direction. I'm not saying that makes any sense, but this is Chris we're talking about, so it doesn't have to.

 

[Christ-Chan]

But based on the other details, he obviously did enjoy the other portions. Chris is fat and doesn't have the physical endurance to be the penetrator and really enjoy himself. That's pretty clear. Being the dominant partner is something that would require lots and lots of exercise and lots of practice, neither of which Chris has/had. But there are other ways Chris could enjoy himself, particularly if the hooker knew how to deal with fat neckbeards.

All I'm hearing is "it would be perfect if she just had a cock".

EDIT:
Chris - Because being straight is too much work!

 

[Marvin]

But based on the other details, he obviously did enjoy the other portions.

I'm not saying he didn't enjoy it.

I'm just saying he didn't enjoy it nearly as much as he wants people to think he did, or as much as he wished he had.

Oh, he did. He got all the results out of it that he expected.

Certainly he didn't enjoy it enough to make it worth repeating (unless you have some info on another hooker I'm unaware of). Despite his crowing, losing his virginity turned out not to be everything he hoped it would.

Well, there might've been. But either way, even assuming there weren't repeat visits, I don't believe those are requirements for him to have been entirely satisfied by his visit. It just might not've been worth consistently pissing away all his money.

I guess this could be how he thinks. But I think it's probably more likely that he sees being an adult as inevitable, so he's trying to find the best adult slot he can. One that will let him have his fuckmommy and sit on his ass all day and play video games. So that's how he came up with the househusband thing.

Well yes, he will think of himself as an "adult" no matter what now, but only because he has absolutely no idea what adulthood really entails. What I'm saying is he recognizes there are some things that come with being an adult, like being able to make your own decisions about when you can go outside and what store you can go into, and he knows he doesn't have those things, and he desperately wants them, but he has absolutely no idea how to actually get them, and he somehow thought losing his virginity was a step in their direction. I'm not saying that makes any sense, but this is Chris we're talking about, so it doesn't have to.

Eh, I think if you sat Chris down and directly asked him about his perspective on adulthood, he'd name things like freedom and stuff like that. I'm not arguing with that, I just don't think he thinks about these subjects that much. His feelings of anger at his lack of freedom and other adult privileges are probably expressed in much simpler emotions and thoughts. I don't think Chris thinks "damnit, I am an adult, I deserve freedom," he thinks "damnit, I want to go to mcdonalds!"

 

[A-№1]

Oh, he did. He got all the results out of it that he expected.

In the short term, but I'm talking about his long term expectations. I think that before the fact Chris really expected losing his virginity would be a life changing, life defining experience for him with sundry benefits. That's one of the reasons why he was so desperate to make it happen before going to jail.

His logic (for lack of a better word) went something like this: Chris the virgin was not getting laid and not getting a heartsweet from the ground up. Who gets laid? Non-virgins get laid. Who has girlfriends? Non-virgins have girlfriends. So therefore, the way to get a girlfriend and get laid regularly is to lose your virginity and become a non-virgin. This is exactly the sort of miscomprehension of cause and effect that Chris so often falls for. Chris believed he wasn't getting laid because he was a virgin, not the other way around (which is how it really works, by definition).

As time went by after losing his virginity, the various benefits never materialized. His life did not improve, but Chris cannot admit that his earlier expectations for losing his virginity were wrong, so now he's casting about for other things to blame. Things like Megan.

Eh, I think if you sat Chris down and directly asked him about his perspective on adulthood, he'd name things like freedom and stuff like that. I'm not arguing with that, I just don't think he thinks about these subjects that much. His feelings of anger at his lack of freedom and other adult privileges are probably expressed in much simpler emotions and thoughts. I don't think Chris thinks "damnit, I am an adult, I deserve freedom," he thinks "damnit, I want to go to mcdonalds!"

Well of course he's going to think about it in terms that are easiest for him to relate to, but the general idea is still the same. He's an adult. He's not a virgin. But adults can eat mcdonalds whenever they want. And adults can go into wal mart whenever they want. And adults find heartsweets and marry them and have children. But Chris can't do any of these things. If can't be because he doesn't do the things required to be an adult.

It must be that bitch Megan's fault.

Have you ever heard of Cargo Cults? More and more I'm beginning to think Chris has a very cargo cult like concept of reality. I may develop this idea further in the future, because I think it might accurately describe a lot of his issues.

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

Have you ever heard of Cargo Cults? More and more I'm beginning to think Chris has a very cargo cult like concept of reality. I may develop this idea further in the future, because I think it might accurately describe a lot of his issues.

Wikipedia wrote:
The term "cargo cult" has been used metaphorically to describe an attempt to recreate successful outcomes by replicating circumstances associated with those outcomes, although those circumstances are either unrelated to the causes of outcomes or insufficient to produce them by themselves.

That makes me think of videos featuring his 'dates' with his sex dolls in a different light.

But yeah I see your point here. For example, Chris sometimes tries to replicate the trappings of success and thinks that these things somehow cause success. But in reality he's no different then a tribesman thinking building a fake landing strip will somehow make planes loaded with cargo appear. Neither one has the slightest clue what's really going on.

Probably other examples, but I'm tired and should probably be in bed.