When will there be a class action suit over circumcision? - And what is needed to make it happen?

[TheNoseKnows]

Yes it does, jews do everything they can to promote and defend the practice. Jewish doctors pushed for the practice of it. Kellog gets the blame for Jewish activities because jews always lie.

John Kellogg was a physician who worked at an Asylum full of retards and Downie's and was looking for ways to curb sexual desire in grown adults who because of mental deficiency were really rapey. Ask any Healthcare professional who has to deal with them today, it was much worse back then.

I wonder if Kellog was paid by the jews to bait the Christians, they still push that shit today so obviously it had legs.

Right now in central Asia jews run Mosques that tell low class workers to join terrorist groups and kill Russians in exchange for huge payouts from Ukraine, that they obviously never get.

@Agamemnon Busmalis , @Bonesjones I don't know how much Judaism is a factor in its prevalence in the USA or not, but in Bongland it used to be almost unheard of until late 18th Century when it suddenly started to become a thing in British upper classes and out of some weird mix of an idea about hygiene and Victorian desire to stamp out masturbation. The idea was that doing this to infants stopped them from developing the habit. I imagine that was the original idea back in olden times with the Hebrews.

The practice is endemic in 2 Abrahamic religions. 99% of Muslim men are genitally mutilated, but nobody knows about it. (take a guess why)

The only Abrahamic religion that didn't practice it is Christians, and in the bible Jesus got into some testy exchanges with the jews over it, before they had him killed using the Romans as a cover.

I wouldn't be so sure if they were involved with promoting the practice in Victorian England as well.

NOOOO, WHEN WE DO SOMETHING BARBARIC IT'S JUSTIFIED AND BEAUTIFUL EVEN IF A KID DROWNS ONCE IN A WHILE!

And a guy with no foreskin can tell you they have sensation without it. But I guess I shouldn't notice my own lived in experience.

Colorblind man thinks his vision is fine, he isn't wrong either.

Also: Post nose.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

NOOOO, WHEN WE DO SOMETHING BARBARIC IT'S JUSTIFIED AND BEAUTIFUL EVEN IF A KID DROWNS ONCE IN A WHILE

Chopping off part of an infant males cock is in no way comparable to tossing some water over its head.

The latter is non permanent. That's a little more permanent and invasive.

Also, "Kinda weird" at best.

 

[gagabobo1997]

Kiwifarms will be against mutilating children for tranny reasons but when the Jews say to do it it's A OK for some people

 

[Hamstirer]

Easier to call someone an idiot than engage with actual arguments, especially when the entire argument consists entirely of hysterics and hyperbole. Your main point in particular is lame, "unnecessary and potentially dangerous" - that could just as easily apply to putting your kid in the car for shopping. The baptism examples also exists with a simple Google search.

I have no idea how you could even measure the less feelings part considering it's entirely subjective. The only method of it with adults pre and post surgery which is too far from the infant surgery to be indicative.

If you cut off half your finger you will have less feeling in your finger because half the nerves are gone. If you are gonna be retarded at least be good at it.

 

[Lain Poster]

You can't win against God's chosen people at their own game. Iceland tried and had to back down.

 

[gagabobo1997]

There are ZERO benefits to circumcision for a healthy baby boy. None. It should be illegal to perform on children who can't consent to it.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

You can't win against God's chosen people at their own game. Iceland tried and had to back down.

It's easy to win with exotic foreign beliefs. But Westerners will need to finesse this skill.

It's called saying no.

In China and Japan, the general population has a real aversion to talking about afterlife. Some might point to confucianism because when the man himself was asked about the afterlife he basically said "Don't ask stupid questions, focus on now" but there has been a serious cultural infusion from the west. Buddhism has always had some sort of hell concept, but the idea of eternal punishment is very new and they really don't like kids being exposed to it.

This, naturally, falls foul of Abrahamic religions who complained that kids need to be told about it.

What did they both do? Japan created their 'Child Abuse Prevention Law" that made talking to kids about Hell a crime, alongside a long list of other things such as "Insisting participation in religious activities on threat of punishment here or later for not doing so". China just makes a point of disbanding and seizing the assets of anyone who does so after a warning.

Western Countries just need to grow a spine if they actually care, but I suspect they don't. It doesn't matter how beautiful or cherished it is somewhere in the world, it can fuck off and be beautiful somewhere else. The only thing stopping it is majority consensus.

 

[Otterly]

You’re up against a lot of powerful interests if you try to ban it.
1. Medical - there’s a huge amount of money to be made from foetal /newborn fibroblasts
2. Muslims - who tend to get violent when crossed
3. Jews - who will lawyer you to deatruction
Just look at Iceland.

Islam seems not to have any set age for the procedure though it is apparently commonly within the age range from seven to puberty.

I’ve been told 8 is most common, by families here, and by the fact that I noticed that almost all the Muslim boys in my kids groups seemed to be ‘ill’ for a week or three that kind of time. Unusual for previously healthy eight year olds to be off for three weeks

But just look at the laws against female genital mutilation- is it one or two people who’ve been prosecuted for it? Virtually none.
The pressures to mutilate babies seem very strong.

Maybe ban baby baptism as well

I dont think as many babies die from botched baptisms in the uk, although now someone will do cup a case where a drunken priest submerged a baby until it drowned or something (christening here is basically dropping a bit of water on their heads, I doubt t anyone’s died of that.)

 

[SaltyFanta]

So long as there is one rabbi on this earth, circumcision will never be jeopardized. Every nation is too terrified of the jewish lobby.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

NOOOO, WHEN WE DO SOMETHING BARBARIC IT'S JUSTIFIED AND BEAUTIFUL EVEN IF A KID DROWNS ONCE IN A WHILE!

Right, because babies drown all the time from being sprinkled or briefly dipped in water. Totally comparable to mohels giving babies herpes. Thanks for outing yourself as a kike, a retard, or both.

And yes, male genital mutillation will never be outlawed primarily because of kikes. Just look what happened with Iceland

 

[isalaide]

Anyone prepared to equate "splashed with a wee bit of water" to "permanent genital mutilation" is either arguing in completely bad faith or functionally retarded.

Leaving the Jews and Muslims aside, the popularity of circumcision in self-described Christian Americans is mind-boggling, since there is no religious requirement to do that shit at all. How the fuck did this weird shit become so popular? Why is it still so popular?

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Christian Americans is mind-boggling, since there is no religious requirement to do that shit at all. How the fuck did this weird shit become so popular? Why is it still so popular?

These guys basically got the gist:

It's because John Kellogg was a fucking weirdo pervert and pushed it to reduce masturbation. That dude had so many mental and sexual issues it's unreal.

John Kellogg was a physician who worked at an Asylum full of retards and Downie's and was looking for ways to curb sexual desire in grown adults who because of mental deficiency were really rapey. Ask any Healthcare professional who has to deal with them today, it was much worse back then.

And yes it's John Kellogg, the Kellog's cereal guy. Corn flakes was invented as a way to tamp down masturbation and sexual desire with the idea of eating something cold and bland for breakfast instead of hot, steamy meats which would excite and inflame passion

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

How the fuck did this weird shit become so popular? Why is it still so popular?

You only need to heavily propagandize a single generation that it's the responsible and healthy thing to do, and you will never get rid of it. Parents will never admit that they mutilated their children for no good reason when even their religion cannot justify it. This is made easier by the fact that the procedure is inflicted upon children who cannot protest it in any way.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

NOOOO, WHEN WE DO SOMETHING BARBARIC IT'S JUSTIFIED AND BEAUTIFUL EVEN IF A KID DROWNS ONCE IN A WHILE!

And a guy with no foreskin can tell you they have sensation without it. But I guess I shouldn't notice my own lived in experience.


And like I said it's absolutely retarded since the ones to blame are the parents for allowing the procedure.

And like I said, people obsessed with circumcision are lolcows.

Why are you always going to every place where something tangentially bad about Jews is said to immediately nose guard them?

You only need to heavily propagandize a single generation that it's the responsible and healthy thing to do, and you will never get rid of it. Parents will never admit that they mutilated their children for no good reason when even their religion cannot justify it. This is made easier by the fact that the procedure is inflicted upon children who cannot protest it in any way.

The same thing basically happened with attending college after the publication of A Nation At Risk. I remember reading that back in the 60s most congressmen didn't even have a college education, now you require one even if you are going to flip burgers.

And yes it's John Kellogg, the Kellog's cereal guy. Corn flakes was invented as a way to tamp down masturbation and sexual desire with the idea of eating something cold and bland for breakfast instead of hot, steamy meats which would excite and inflame passion

Fucking Advetists. Worst Christian denomination by far

 

[Overly Serious]

So how about this. whilst it might be the parents' decision and therefore the parents are faced with suing themselves (given the child cannot sue until the statute of limitations has already passed), there should be grounds to sue based on erroneous advice. I'm sure doctors and hospital officials are giving out some of the same bogus stuff about UTIs, STDs and concealing real consequences. These things can be established objectively as misleading. That's grounds to sue the medical practitioners. Even if unsuccessful ultimately it would likely force a more cautious approach to the advice and include more of the downsides. Though really there is a case there for victory.

There's a big incentive for a lawyer that could pull this off as it would open the door to a lot of further cases or if class action could be big.

 

[k0ndumba2]

So how about this. whilst it might be the parents' decision and therefore the parents are faced with suing themselves (given the child cannot sue until the statute of limitations has already passed), there should be grounds to sue based on erroneous advice. I'm sure doctors and hospital officials are giving out some of the same bogus stuff about UTIs, STDs and concealing real consequences. These things can be established objectively as misleading. That's grounds to sue the medical practitioners. Even if unsuccessful ultimately it would likely force a more cautious approach to the advice and include more of the downsides. Though really there is a case there for victory.

There's a big incentive for a lawyer that could pull this off as it would open the door to a lot of further cases or if class action could be big.

You'll never be able to sue your doctor, not for this.

The judge will rule that based on current, and past, medical knowledge that the doctor was acting in good faith towards their patient.

Be mad at your mother, and other mothers, for raising pig men that don't wash and perceive practicing proper hygeine as a feminine behavior. If the choice is having to live in society with a bunch of cheesy-smelling crusty dicks or a cleaner one, I'll pick the latter. If you try to say "just teach the boys how to wash and they'll wash properly" that is delusional, men don't bathe properly in the western world because being clean is gay.

 

[A Real Munson]

Easier to call someone an idiot than engage with actual arguments, especially when the entire argument consists entirely of hysterics and hyperbole.

I know this is just an error in your sentence structure, but you're calling your own argument hyperbolic and hysterical.

And like I said, people obsessed with circumcision are lolcows.

Speaking of hysterical, how do you put on your clown makeup without ever looking in a mirror?

 

[Gog & Magog]

Circumcision will always be a lolcow topic by the biggest coomers to ever exist thinking they lost on their dick size and convinced they could have coomed even harder.

Ironically, this is the biggest reason why we don't see laws explicitly outlawing circumcision. Even when right, lolcows of the anti-circumcision opinion always go full-retard and sabotage the rest of the movement. You think they'd restrain themselves long enough to help kids. Guess they don't care.

Maybe ban baby baptism as well consider it can also be botched and "has no purpose"? Plus the whole "no feeling" as well is also bullshit as if anything Jews seem to be more keen on using their dicks for their intended purpose than the goyms.

I disagree. Circumcision made no difference for me, but that's not the case for men like Null. If there's nothing wrong with a part of a baby's body then it ought to be left alone. Procedures that risk even a slight chance of life-long harm while carrying little benefit shouldn't be performed, let alone on infants. Don't let well-poisoning idiots like BoneJones or TheNoseKnows lead you to thinking everyone here hates circumcision just because they hate Jews. I don't. I do hate dishonesty and right now you are not being fully honest.

 

[k0ndumba2]

Ironically, this is the biggest reason why we don't see laws explicitly outlawing circumcision. Even when right, lolcows of the anti-circumcision opinion always go full-retard and sabotage the rest of the movement. You think they'd restrain themselves long enough to help kids. I guess they don't care.

Their argument gets lost in hysterics because that is where it is based. Comparing FGM to male circumcisions' is hysterical. "Waaaaahhhh, my penis is clean and still functions!!" They cry as they flail on the ground, wildly sobbing over their lack of gooning potential.

 

[Gog & Magog]

Their argument gets lost in hysterics because that is where it is based. Comparing FGM to male circumcisions' is hysterical. "Waaaaahhhh, my penis is clean and still functions!!" They cry as they flail on the ground, wildly sobbing over their lack of gooning potential.

I think the minority of men with chronic cock pain due to circumcision as infants is a horrible, terrible thing. But I see your point.

Why are you always going to every place where something tangentially bad about Jews is said to immediately nose guard them?

He's Israeli. Everyone from Israel is either a Jew or an Arab, and I never see him talking about his favorite kebab shops.