Where are you in the spectrum of theistic probability - (Collecting statistics)

[analrapist]

Highest possible certainty. The Bible is the only lens that provides an actually coherent, consistent viewpoint of the world, albeit that is only achieved by placing proper focus on the finished work of Jesus Christ and the grace of our Father revealed through that work.

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

how can god be real if our reality isn’t real. checkmate

 

[TapewormSalesman]

Highest possible certainty. The Bible is the only lens that provides an actually coherent, consistent viewpoint of the world, albeit that is only achieved by placing proper focus on the finished work of Jesus Christ and the grace of our Father revealed through that work.

Only on Kiwifarms can you find analrapist enthusiastically telling you about the bible

 

[Golly]

It depends. Identifying God definitively in reference to a religion would send me flying to 6 or 7, but I do believe in a vague entity with as much certainty as a 2.5 on some days. Usually, I'm hovering around 3.

I don't think humans have a chance at coming close to naming or identifying this force in the near future or even farther out.

 

[G19]

1.
But this is perceiving God(s) as a "higher existence", similar to aliens more advanced than us. Now, an omnipotent existence that created all of the universe and time and space and everything we know and will ever know? That's some big league shit, Dunno if I buy the omnipotent version of God. It's possible but, ehhhh really? In this case I'm a 3.

 

[Idiotron]

There might be something out there that would fit the most common definitions of god but every single religion on Earth is bullshit.
Something like Q is a lot more probable than Allah.

Also, if our universe was indeed a conscious creation, it's more likely that it was created in a lab by some scientists than by an eternal wizard who cares what we eat, who we sleep with and how often do we worship him..

 

[#FF0000]

1. There is a god, but he just created the universe or caused the big bang and that's about it. And maybe he just fucks around with the universe once in a while. I don't believe in any specific religion's god.

 

[Str8Bustah]

1. I'm not big on intellectualisation which is why I'm attending an Orthodox parish, but I believe that at the core of it all, the soul sings to her creator, and the creator responds in kind. A lot of us just have a bunch of gunk that's been built up which needs to gradually be chipped away before you can even begin to perceive the fact that your soul and the Lord both cry out for one another's embrace.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

It's 1 for me.

But to say something "absolutely doesnt exist" seems kind of closed-minded. However, I am saying God definitely does exist, is that the same? Like is that also narrow-minded?

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

The saying that one can't prove a negative applies, so I voted at six. Gods exist primarily because others believe in them, but voting at the level of seven for anything is inexcusable from a philosophical perspective.

Seeing how the world is in its current state though, would make anyone sane go to religion as a lifesaver.

Religious people have made our world a hellscape. They have a religion mandating different things is all. We aren't living in a world ruled by atheists is my point.

The conclusion is that even if there were no God, to believe would still be the most reasonable option since you stand to gain everything by believing and you stand to lose everything by not believing.

The issue with this is the persistence of name-brand gods who set rules specifying worship of themselves only, in addition to rules such as "do not kill" and the like.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

Religious people have made our world a hellscape. They have a religion mandating different things is all. We aren't living in a world ruled by atheists is my point.

We are ruled by Jews who hate us and want us dead, what else is new. That doesn't make people pursuing religion inherently evil. We need a safe place for the degeneracy that is flowing.

 

[Am I Very Wrong]

I don't think there can be a 1.
I'm reading the bible and i'm trying to act as a good christian, but the whole point of faith is that you can never know for sure, no? You have to keep it alive through actions that will change you as a person in return.
I used to be so scared of total annihilation (and i still am when i dream of dying) , but at times i think giving in to sin and atheism would give me more comfort than faith. However, i feel like regardless of whether god is there or not, following the bible makes me a better person. Just believing in God because i want him to exist was not enough for me, but seeing how all of the things i hate about myself could be fixed by acting christlike (which is of course impossible, but i must try) convinced me that believing is better than the alternative.

 

[Marc]

The issue I take with the questionnaire is that an individual submitting concise reasons for invoking their preferred ontological assertions are more pertinent to the pretense of generating personalized, statistical data than placing undue emphasis upon something so nebulous as degree of belief. Furthermore, it's presented in bad faith:

The questionnaire neglects to include the data points of which religion's or culture's associated deity is being invoked, as well as the role the individual has come to believe their particular conception of that deity plays in determining the events of their daily life (which would obviously provide data reinforcing the numbered rating). That it solicits foregone conclusions (rather than leave room to invite any sort of explanation of how the conclusion was arrived at) instead comes across as being Dawkins' smarmy, roundabout way of gauging the degree of an individual's conceit/self-importance; in which an individual's egocentric view of a god is appealed to via inviting them to pointlessly self-evaluate the degree to which they believe in something which the author is already certain does not exist to any degree, at all.

It seems like Dawkins tricking believers into masturbating him by inviting them to masturbate themselves.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

I'm a six but I'm retarded and autistic and unlike Dawkins et al. I think most of the failings of modern society are hinged on the fact most people are badly equipped (and probably incapable of being equipped) to live in a universe without something to give them purpose. I'd much rather the majority of people around me be 1-3s.

 

[Whatevermancer]

Pascal's wager

I don't like Pascal's wager, cause it supposes that we know who one true God is, and that he won't manage to figure out that you believed in him only to save your ass. Or that he doesn't have an especially cruel punishment for those who believed in a different god.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

1. Solid 1. Our journey to heaven is personal and proof for one person is tripe for another. I've teetered off and on atheism and belief most of my life, but I have had experiences which helped prepare me to accept that I don't know what reality even is, which helped open me up to what was possible as a result. Paranormal experiences, demonic possession of those around me, healings, all kinds of unexplainable-by-natural-forces stuff. Being in the right place at the right time to help someone in need, meeting people I wouldn't have, yet who have had great impact on my life.

All of these are part of my personal walk with God, both to and away from Him. I understand that I'm just some faggot on the internet, typing "deep" things which will not convince anyone who isn't already convinced, and yet Jesus asks us to spread seed even though most of it will not root, grow, or bear fruit.

So my seed I can offer is that humility is a dirty word these days, but is so important in my walk. I was "the smartest motherfucker alive" so I knew God didn't exist. That's like climbing a foothill, camping there forever, and saying you climbed the whole mountain. It took humility to accept that, actually, I don't KNOW shit. It took humility to learn that believers aren't retards who believe in sky daddy. It took humility to accept that yeah, I am broken in lots of ways which affect my family, but with Gods help I can be better.

The world actively hates the humble, tramples over them, abuses them in untold ways...because the world is run by egotists, narcissists, and those who take power in any way they can. The world wants us to only look out for ourselves, bucket of crabs style, pinching and kicking and fighting to get to the top, those below us be damned. This is the easy path, to be selfish and self-serving. This is the same issue troons face, pridefully believing they can craft a reality bending identity.

So please, understand we aren't as smart and witty as we think we are, and what we think is important day to day can easily distract us from what is actually important. It's a big universe out there, and a lot is possible. Even atheists having experiences which reorient them entirely.

 

[eaglesfan665]

I don't like Pascal's wager, cause it supposes that we know who one true God is, and that he won't manage to figure out that you believed in him only to save your ass. Or that he doesn't have an especially cruel punishment for those who believed in a different god.

There are issues with it, yes, but as I said I think it could be a good opening move when it comes to hardline atheists.
Also I don't think someone that comes to faith for the reason of his own salvation alone can stay a believer for that reason for long. It can be something that opens the door so to speak but a believer's life is ultimately grounded by fellowship, worship, prayer, reading Scripture, partaking in the mysteries, among other things.
If my education is lacking in everything else, that lack is particularly evident when it comes to the topic of Divine punishment, so I will avoid delving into it. Suffice it to say that I don't think threatening anyone with an inconceivable punishment will make them want to side with you. You might retort that the Catholics have done it in, but their "threats" or, to put it in better terms, admonitions were also backed by a political system that empowered the Pope to be directly below God and directly above the Monarchs of Europe.
A political system that at this point is long gone.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

6. I do not believe in God. There is no objective evidence for His existence, and all the arguments I’ve seen basically amount to logic puzzles or rely on premises that only work if you’re already a believer. But we know very little about the universe, so I’m reluctant to say with absolute certainty that no functionally similar entities exist.

 

[and and and and]

I think a lot of people here are on the spectrum

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

I'm glad I grew up in a christian household in a christian area but I'm like a 99% 6, with the only reason I'm not a 7 being that I don't think you could disprove divinity to my satisfaction any more than any living person could prove it to me. It would honestly probably take the rapture or something on that level from other religions to sway me