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While I consider myself a 1, technically I'm a 2, as although I do believe God exists, there's a part of me that has some doubts.
 
eaglesfan665 said:
I like to use Pascal's wager when explaining faith to atheists
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Pascal's Wager is retarded because it only takes into consideration the existence of the Christian God. It's not a fifty-fifity chance that the Christian God is real or not, it's a web of probability. You could be a hardcore Christian only to figure out when you die that, surprise! Islam was actually the one true religion! Enjoy Jahannam infidel child.
Or you could be a Muslim only to die and figure out that, surprise again! It's actually Hinduism! Now because you ate meat you will be reborn as a candiru.
 
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Tablet County said:
Pascal's Wager is retarded because it only takes into consideration the existence of the Christian God. It's not a fifty-fifity chance that the Christian God is real or not, it's a web of probability. You could be a hardcore Christian only to figure out when you die that, surprise! Islam was actually the one true religion! Enjoy Jahannam infidel child.
Or you could be a Muslim only to die and figure out that, surprise again! It's actually Hinduism! Now because you ate meat you will be reborn as a candiru.
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My friend, I'm afraid you are cursed by the postmodern ghost of relativism.
 
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Remember, the Jews benefit from your belief in a Christian God and more importantly your faith in the Bible. If you genuinely believe the Jews are God’s Chosen People you are a gullible stooge inadvertently defending a religion of open pedophiles.

Jews. Rape. Kids.
Google Metzitzah B’peh.
Would a loving God really allow that, much less from his chosen people?
Kill. All. Jews.


Anyways, I voted 6. You can never know everything. What I’m certain of is there is no Christian God as described in the Bible, Talmud, or Quran. There’s too many inconsistencies and paradoxes with his existence. Easiest of which to point out is the Omnipotence Paradox. You know, the good ole “Can God make a rock even he can’t lift?”.
 
DDBCAE CBAADCBE said:
Easiest of which to point out is the Omnipotence Paradox. You know, the good ole “Can God make a rock even he can’t lift?”.
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Hebrews 6:18 “…it is impossible for God to lie…” as God created the universe with laws, He must also obey the those laws. Thus he could not create a rock he could not lift. This does not take away from his divinity. Man has created lesser things than himself, but is not endowed with the bending of logic
 
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3, there's surely something beyond our comprehension above material reality but like that Five Rings quote says "respect the gods but don't depend on them". If the spiritual is real we are still bound to the mundane and we have to make the best of it within the context.
 
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The Magnificence said:
Maybe you need a sky daddy to compel yourself to behave decently, but I certainly do not.
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The more I see of our increasingly secular culture, the more I'm convinced most people DO need the threat of divine punishment to not fall into rampant degeneracy.

I'm not exactly sure why that's the case. I'm not religious, but the value of living according to religiously-derived moral precepts still seems obvious to me.
 
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6. The only gods I could see existing would be the old world gods.

Also the best answer irl when someone asks if you're religious is "Yes, I see no gods here besides me." Really gets them to quite down.
 
9gfuwegw9j9 said:
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Eh, it's just an example of what Jesus said about throwing "pearls before swine, who then trample the pearls and you". Arguing with a firm atheist won't convince them they are wrong, and likely only further convinces them they are right.

IRL I never ask if people are religious, mostly because I can tell if they are or not, and if not, I don't push the issue or try to christpill them. If someone else brings up religion, I'll talk about it with them because they opened that door, and figuratively I never hold that door open if they prefer to close it again soon after.

Christians are supposed to be an example for the world, not a professor who requires rapt attention to lecture. That's harder online, and "words on a screen" carry absolutely no weight. So usually, it's only in face to face conversations that I bring religion up at all.
 
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Personally, I'm a 5.5. I recently examined various arguments for theism and atheism and put some decent bit of hard work into thinking through the pros and cons of the main arguments, and decided that while I can't rule God out for certain and there are aspects of human experience that neither naturalism or science CAN fully explain, considering the course of human history and how God regularly serves just as a projection of human traits it's probably more likely that there is no God. However, I do have a lot of respect for the benefits that religion does provide, like charity, communal bonds, etc.
 
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6. Technically it could all be simulation or really really good fake... I lean towards for it not to be, but hey it might all be in my head. In which case, you are just something that something like a "god" created to entertain me... I have no believe this was actually done, but there is miniscule probability for it to have happened.
 
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