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JoJo's probably the only 80s originated thing zoomer weebs care about, right? Unless maybe if you also count DBZ.
Zoomers certainly don't give a shit about stuff like Fist of The North Star.
Where did all the weeaboos go? - Wheh dey @????
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Zoomers certainly don't give a shit about stuff like Fist of The North Star.
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Weebs became full wannabes, moving to 5ch and going for niche anime preferences such as lolis and idols.
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I'd say something about zoomers and their appaling lack of taste and inquisitiveness, but then my generation went all in on neomarxism and dick/tit chopping.
See also, though to a lesser extent, Hunter x Hunter, which Togashi started in the mid 90s right after Yu Yu Hakusho. Speaking of which, it still amazes me how many anime had decently sized/active fanbases c. 2009 that were practically wiped off the map by 2012. YYH, Inuyasha, and Rurouni Kenshin all come to mind. I could say Bleach, but that was a very different set of circumstances.
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Some of it is just millennials aging out, the rest is due to change of culture. Anime is now ubiquitous in Western society, very main stream. It's everywhere and easy to access. Multiple streaming services host tons of series. Zoomers and younger were born into anime being a built in part of their culture, along with video games, smart phones, social media, memes, Youtube etc.
Millennials not so much. For most in the 90's and 00's anime was new, exotic, hard to find, and expensive. It was something foreign we were introduced to, and the market was still pretty niche. Hell, I remember being 15 and buying Ranma 1/2 and Dragonball VHS tapes from the video store at the mall for $25 a pop, but to me it was worth it because it was so interesting and new. It was also around this time sushi started being a thing in most of the U.S., and it's practically part of U.S. cuisine at this point. And Japanese restaurants in general were lot more sparse back then. Today, hibachi, ramen, and sushi shops are everywhere.
So basically, the weeaboos were all of the excited spergs going "OMG JAPAN!!!!!!" and lapping up literally everything Japanese they could get their hands on. It's the combination of getting a hold of something that's new and exotic and "cool," and a sort of status symbol one could indulge in and share with friends. Then combine that with spergery and/or classic nerdy and socially awkward behavior and you get the weeaboo.
Millennials not so much. For most in the 90's and 00's anime was new, exotic, hard to find, and expensive. It was something foreign we were introduced to, and the market was still pretty niche. Hell, I remember being 15 and buying Ranma 1/2 and Dragonball VHS tapes from the video store at the mall for $25 a pop, but to me it was worth it because it was so interesting and new. It was also around this time sushi started being a thing in most of the U.S., and it's practically part of U.S. cuisine at this point. And Japanese restaurants in general were lot more sparse back then. Today, hibachi, ramen, and sushi shops are everywhere.
So basically, the weeaboos were all of the excited spergs going "OMG JAPAN!!!!!!" and lapping up literally everything Japanese they could get their hands on. It's the combination of getting a hold of something that's new and exotic and "cool," and a sort of status symbol one could indulge in and share with friends. Then combine that with spergery and/or classic nerdy and socially awkward behavior and you get the weeaboo.
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Fullmetal Alchemist is a big one, those that saw it remember it well but zoomers don't give a shit about it, pretty surprising considering how massive it was at one time.
Haruhi is one that seems pretty much forgotten by everyone, which is also surprising given how huge it at one time was.
The vast majority stuff from the 2000s is forgotten today even if it was popular at the time, stuff from the 90s has had longer legs, however I feel like there's a very clear reason why and it's technical, see anime from the 90s was filmed with cels, so they remaster into HD well, anime from the 2000s on the other hand was done with early digital animation, so there's no way to essentially remaster it, what you get is upscales that rarely look great, not to mention the 4:3 aspect ratios.
So if you're a zoomer, at a glance stuff from the 90s and 2010s is going to look nicer than something that's either not in HD at all or doesn't look great in it, so what are you more likely to try? It's a really shitty, depressing fate for anime of the era.
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They were all cut down Naruto-running at the US military during the Area 51 raid.
Rest in ramen.
Rest in ramen.
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I still see tons of weebs out there. Meanwhile, communities like metalfags, goths and the likes have disappeared from public life.
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How did that happen? It's like after 2011 everybody forgot it existed.
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This most of the weebs I know who didn't grow up and become adults became creepy troons.
Yeah Kpop Stan's make the weebs look like functional adults.
Nah they still exist the weebs from the 2000s got replaced by zoomer weebs. The zoomer weebs are well their own version of exceptional individuals and well are either crossovers with furries or Kpop Stan's now.
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Metal stopped being promoted in the mainstream I would say after let the bodies hit the floor. Also the metal community turned into if you don't sound like you're screaming at the top of your lungs then you're not "Metal" enough to be metal. Not to mention alot of them shat on guitar hero. It's sad to see but metal went from something that most cities had at least 1 if not 2 clubs and multiple radio stations and it has now turned completely into a underground culture now.
As for the goth community I can attest that most of the young goths are in it because it's a "fashion sense" and nothing more meanwhile the old school goths either turned into alcholic Karen's and other assorted losers.
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The second season, Endless Eight really cratered a lot of goodwill (I myself have only bothered to watch the first season) and I think the light novels ended in 2011, so it could also be a case that once new content stopped coming out people simply stopped caring.
Meanwhile though people still remember Lucky Star fairly well, but Lucky Star didn't have a disastrous second season.
I wonder when the last time someone cosplayed as Haruhi at an American con was?
In the mid to the late 2000s there was kind of a wave of nostalgia for old school metal, spurred on in part by Guitar Hero, but you had the Tenacious D movie in 2006, Meatloaf came out with a new album in 2006, Iron Maiden had a pretty successful album in 2006, Dragonforce was pretty popular at the time and then you had the video game Brutal Legend in 2009, but since the 2010s it's basically been forgotten by the mainstream.
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Yeah metal got ignored by the mainstream and metal fans shirked back into the night while hip-hop took over.
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I know Haruhi is still alive and well on JP twitter (just look at all the Kyonko fanart all those years later) but Kadokawa could have given us a third season, right?
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The 2008 crisis caused every anime studio to drop the pretense and just start pandering to the most insane otaku consoomers who'd drop the most dosh. Like with capeshit, it usually means the product is bland and boring to appeal to autistic manchildren. Something to chew on - in the 90s, you'd typically see 30-40 new TV anime created in a year. In the 2010s, that number ballooned into the hundreds, but the entire industry still had a budget that was less than it was in the 90s (in real terms). So you see all these one-season otakubait shows that exist purely to sell merchandise because anime is wholly unprofitable any other way, and it's unironically easier to just hit every low-brow otakubait franchise at once than bother trying to pick a winner (hence the one-season aspect).
Next up, manga. The 2008 crisis (notice a pattern here?) severely damaged the industry in Japan, and sales of manga periodicals fell considerably. Fewer artists were able to break in and so you began to see a handful of long-running manga series by perennial oldfags not only dominate the industry (as they had pre-recession) but almost subsume it. There's still plenty of small monthly or even bimonthly published manga out there, but there's not really a thriving industry of moderately popular series in the middle ground between the small niche manga and the big guys that you used to see. Without this industrial middle class, long-term career prospects for aspiring manga artists disappeared and they all just started drawing art for gacha shit instead. And on top of that, the massively overpriced manga industry in the US and the wider anglophone world (priced in such a way to not undercut domestic comics btw) never really got back on its feet because 1) not even hardcore weebs are willing to pay $10 for a tankobon volume printed on toilet paper anymore and 2) Japanese companies are literally retarded and can't figure out how to hire westerners to actually market their shit in the west in a way that westerners will consume.
Finally, the third pillar - vidya. Japanese video games succumbed to the same fate as western ones - jewry. Almost every game company in Japan began to focus on soshage - social (media) games aka gacha - and this low-effort race to the bottom pulled resources away from not only the gaming industry but also manga and anime as well. I'm honestly amazed to see JRPGs even begin to make a resurgence as I'd thought all the people who knew how to program them were now living in gacha slave pens cranking out more seasonal events so Kinoko Nasu can buy his third private jet.
Now all this merely explains the decline in quality. And that's exactly the point - Japanese pop culture used to distinguish itself as being relatively high-quality while also still appealing to somewhat niche tastes. Which is why weebs were so zealous about it. Now it's not. Now all that's left is a kind of nostalgia for what was. People still like this shit, but it's not the mark of enlightened cultural consumption that it once was.
Next up, manga. The 2008 crisis (notice a pattern here?) severely damaged the industry in Japan, and sales of manga periodicals fell considerably. Fewer artists were able to break in and so you began to see a handful of long-running manga series by perennial oldfags not only dominate the industry (as they had pre-recession) but almost subsume it. There's still plenty of small monthly or even bimonthly published manga out there, but there's not really a thriving industry of moderately popular series in the middle ground between the small niche manga and the big guys that you used to see. Without this industrial middle class, long-term career prospects for aspiring manga artists disappeared and they all just started drawing art for gacha shit instead. And on top of that, the massively overpriced manga industry in the US and the wider anglophone world (priced in such a way to not undercut domestic comics btw) never really got back on its feet because 1) not even hardcore weebs are willing to pay $10 for a tankobon volume printed on toilet paper anymore and 2) Japanese companies are literally retarded and can't figure out how to hire westerners to actually market their shit in the west in a way that westerners will consume.
Finally, the third pillar - vidya. Japanese video games succumbed to the same fate as western ones - jewry. Almost every game company in Japan began to focus on soshage - social (media) games aka gacha - and this low-effort race to the bottom pulled resources away from not only the gaming industry but also manga and anime as well. I'm honestly amazed to see JRPGs even begin to make a resurgence as I'd thought all the people who knew how to program them were now living in gacha slave pens cranking out more seasonal events so Kinoko Nasu can buy his third private jet.
Now all this merely explains the decline in quality. And that's exactly the point - Japanese pop culture used to distinguish itself as being relatively high-quality while also still appealing to somewhat niche tastes. Which is why weebs were so zealous about it. Now it's not. Now all that's left is a kind of nostalgia for what was. People still like this shit, but it's not the mark of enlightened cultural consumption that it once was.
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Hopefully they’re all at the end of a rope, but sadly I know one and he’s a MtF. They’re trannies now, and being trans comes before any other aspect of ones identity to these people.
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The entirety of this post is a winner, but this part specifically encapsulates why it feels like everything just changed. Everything basically went to fuck in 2008 and the major focus (about 80% of stuff being made) is on pandering to otaku with no standards, and in a few cases attempts to appeal to
Unfortunately, risktaking that doesn't result in insta-bluray sales or otaku stacks from figma or merchandising is scary since the industry has gone into quantity over quality and base instinct survival mode, that's why generic isekai is inescapable, moe floods the market and Berserk hasn't had a good adaptation since 1997.
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What's weird is that the few times in recent history where they've actually attempted to appeal to foreign audiences, they've seen pretty big success. Shield Hero was a third-string isekai property in Japan that was several years past its prime when it was adapted, but some crazy Japanese exec thought the gaijins might like it. And not only was he right, but it appears to be on track to get a pretty long-running adaptation instead of the one or two arcs you see adapted in your typical LN-derived animu. The fact that this isn't happening more is pretty baffling tbh.
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In the past, the overly literal nature of most translations ("nakama", "un", etc) gave viewers/readers a shitty crash course in Japanese things and it showed as classic weeb vocabulary and an unrealistic image of Japan. Now that it's mainstream and has official translations, people aren't forced to learn random words and traditions to keep up with the story, eliminating the classic vocabulary and obsessiveness. The lack of obvious signaling that it's from another culture also means today's weebs apply western cultural norms and instead have dumbass takes like "omg child abuse!!!"
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I think people got too embarrassed dancing Hare Hare Yukai that they tried their best to forget.