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Is there anywhere in Europe still worth moving to? I've heard that Denmark is pretty based, and that Norway doesn't have nearly the problems Sweden does with immigration (though it's worse off than Denmark). Finland is also still pretty homogenous, but it seems like their economy has been struggling recently (i.e., very high unemployment rates).

My understanding is that everywhere else (Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Spain) is pretty much fucked due to mass immigration, catastrophic birth rates, and retarded socialist policies, and whether or not they will unfuck themselves in their next elections remains to be seen.

Also, any opinions on Central/Eastern Europe? Particularly Austria, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Estonia, Slovenia, and Croatia? Or any others you have experience or knowledge of.
 
I live in Wisconsin and decided that if I was ever rich enough to do whatever I want I would up to the coast of Lake Superior- I also want to get into sailing so it's a little different for me. I would give it at least 30 more years before the dysgenic hordes start moving into that area.

Now Hispanics have a tendency to migrate wherever there's manual labor jobs to be done, if you want to avoid them you would want to move somewhere that's both rural and economically depressed like West Virginia.
 
Is there anywhere in Europe still worth moving to? I've heard that Denmark is pretty based, and that Norway doesn't have nearly the problems Sweden does with immigration (though it's worse off than Denmark). Finland is also still pretty homogenous, but it seems like their economy has been struggling recently (i.e., very high unemployment rates).

My understanding is that everywhere else (Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Spain) is pretty much fucked due to mass immigration, catastrophic birth rates, and retarded socialist policies, and whether or not they will unfuck themselves in their next elections remains to be seen.

Also, any opinions on Central/Eastern Europe? Particularly Austria, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Estonia, Slovenia, and Croatia? Or any others you have experience or knowledge of.
Nordic countries are socialist. Baltic countries are Nazis. I recommend rural Portugal or Spain, specifically rural. Overall idea is stay as far from Russia as possible, not because "Russia bad", but because the closer your get the more retarded the politics of respective countries becomes. And as far away from capitals because of pajeet/arab/nigger pollution. For instance North Rhine-Westphalia in Germany is indistinguishable from Istanbul at this point (i lived in both), Riga, Latvia is now New New Delhi (since around 2020). But then you kinda need to balance how far away you can allow to stay away from VS how much niggerazation you can stomach.

Overall the more west you go the more "chill" everything is, the more south you go the cheaper it gets (NL kinda chill but expensive as hell). Then also separate issue is tax residency and related stuff, that may affect significantly if you intend to pay taxes at all.
 
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Nordic countries are socialist. Baltic countries are Nazis. I recommend rural Portugal or Spain, specifically rural. Overall idea is stay as far from Russia as possible, not because "Russia bad", but because the closer your get the more retarded the politics of respective countries becomes. And as far away from capitals because of pajeet/arab/nigger pollution. For instance North Rhine-Westphalia in Germany is indistinguishable from Istanbul at this point (i lived in both), Riga, Latvia is now New New Delhi (since around 2020). But then you kinda need to balance how far away you can allow to stay away from VS how much niggerazation you can stomach.

Overall the more west you go the more "chill" everything is, the more south you go the cheaper it gets (NL kinda chill but expensive as hell). Then also separate issue is tax residency and related stuff, that may affect significantly if you intend to pay taxes at all.
Aren't most Western European countries dealing with insane immigration issues, though? How "chill" can you really be when 1/4 of your population and 1/3 of your child population is foreign?

That's honestly why I was looking at Eastern/Central Europe; yeah, you have the Russia nonsense and the Gypsies, but otherwise they still actually look and feel like themselves. Maybe it's moralfagging, but I want a nation -- a people -- I can actually contribute to and be a part of, not just a quiet place to hole up in while everything goes to shit. I'm looking for somewhere I could start a family in and not have to worry about their futures being stolen from them by the time they're 20 because of infinity immigration.

I guess my real question then becomes, is there any country in Europe left like that?
 
Is there anywhere in Europe still worth moving to? I've heard that Denmark is pretty based, and that Norway doesn't have nearly the problems Sweden does with immigration (though it's worse off than Denmark). Finland is also still pretty homogenous, but it seems like their economy has been struggling recently (i.e., very high unemployment rates).

My understanding is that everywhere else (Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Spain) is pretty much fucked due to mass immigration, catastrophic birth rates, and retarded socialist policies, and whether or not they will unfuck themselves in their next elections remains to be seen.

Also, any opinions on Central/Eastern Europe? Particularly Austria, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Estonia, Slovenia, and Croatia? Or any others you have experience or knowledge of.
Portugalis pretty good. Low cost of living and taxes, good weather. You will have to learn Portuguese though, and hopefully have a foreign job or at least one that pays well, since comparatively wages are low there.
 
That's honestly why I was looking at Eastern/Central Europe; yeah, you have the Russia nonsense and the Gypsies, but otherwise they still actually look and feel like themselves. Maybe it's moralfagging, but I want a nation -- a people -- I can actually contribute to and be a part of, not just a quiet place to hole up in while everything goes to shit. I'm looking for somewhere I could start a family in and not have to worry about their futures being stolen from them by the time they're 20 because of infinity immigration.

I guess my real question then becomes, is there any country in Europe left like that?
Do you genuinely think that an Eastern European nation that remained mostly homogenous throughout the last 20 years is going to make an exception for some mutt and let them "contribute" to their society? They don't want you. Besides, most of Eastern Europe is dealing with the Ukrainian diaspora right now, but you probably wouldn't be able to differentiate all the types of Slav anyways.
 
Do you genuinely think that an Eastern European nation that remained mostly homogenous throughout the last 20 years is going to make an exception for some mutt and let them "contribute" to their society? They don't want you. Besides, most of Eastern Europe is dealing with the Ukrainian diaspora right now, but you probably wouldn't be able to differentiate all the types of Slav anyways.
The anti-migrant sentiment in Europe is towards Somalis, Pakistanis and Syrians that smell girls and punch people on trains. Not on western ex-parts that are net contributers to their economy and barely commit any crimes.
 
Aren't most Western European countries dealing with insane immigration issues, though? How "chill" can you really be when 1/4 of your population and 1/3 of your child population is foreign?

That's honestly why I was looking at Eastern/Central Europe; yeah, you have the Russia nonsense and the Gypsies, but otherwise they still actually look and feel like themselves. Maybe it's moralfagging, but I want a nation -- a people -- I can actually contribute to and be a part of, not just a quiet place to hole up in while everything goes to shit. I'm looking for somewhere I could start a family in and not have to worry about their futures being stolen from them by the time they're 20 because of infinity immigration.

I guess my real question then becomes, is there any country in Europe left like that?
Well like I said rural Spain or Protugal. Specifically rural. Immigrants don't go here because there's fuck all to do in terms of employment. That would mean a challenge for you if you need local infrastructure such as school for kids etc, but if you can be semi-self-sufficient, at least in terms of source of income, its very interesting option. The nothern parts of EU is so compact because they dont have land (think NL, BE) that there's no rural areas, this means no areas that are not niggerized already or under threat of pajeetofication, Spain is extremely sparse in terms of population density, regions like Galicia are very beautiful in nature and have nearly zero immigrants. Same for central Portugal. And there WON'T be immigrants there unless they learn how to vibe code and work from home or something.
 
Been considering West Virginia. Maybe the Quiet Zone if I could swing it.

I think at this point the main pro in favor of moving out of the US is to get away from all the stuff in our food.
Alot of Hunting outfitters and developers are buying up rural WV land. If you know adjacent landowners you can find good land. If it's near a trailer park,atv trail,public area you'll deal with rednecks constantly poaching,trespassing, tearing gates down. In the southern counties it's rare to find land with mineral or timber rights.
 
I live in the most beautiful geological region in the US, but I cannot in good conscious recommend it because it has such proximity to a tranny nexus that even though it's 99% rural farmland and state forests I still see them ALL THE TIME. Unfortunately I am deeply attached to this place and my whole family is here, so I have to make peace with this. It helps to remember that they will become disabled and hopefully invisible early in life.
 
I live in the most beautiful geological region in the US, but I cannot in good conscious recommend it because it has such proximity to a tranny nexus that even though it's 99% rural farmland and state forests I still see them ALL THE TIME. Unfortunately I am deeply attached to this place and my whole family is here, so I have to make peace with this. It helps to remember that they will become disabled and hopefully invisible early in life.
Where i live currently (rural western europe) not only I have not ever seen a tranny, not even "obviously gay" man or a blue haired dyke. Come to think about I can't even remember when I saw a tranny last time, maybe Berlin or Lisbon. I'm kinda shocked that faggotry spread to rural areas in the US, here in EU it's the opposite. Are you saying there's actual competent "trans folk" who can actually survive in rural areas without starbucks access? Anyway, I can only imagine your suffering, sending hugs and prayers.
 
Is there anywhere in Europe still worth moving to? I've heard that Denmark is pretty based, and that Norway doesn't have nearly the problems Sweden does with immigration (though it's worse off than Denmark). Finland is also still pretty homogenous, but it seems like their economy has been struggling recently (i.e., very high unemployment rates).

My understanding is that everywhere else (Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Spain) is pretty much fucked due to mass immigration, catastrophic birth rates, and retarded socialist policies, and whether or not they will unfuck themselves in their next elections remains to be seen.

Also, any opinions on Central/Eastern Europe? Particularly Austria, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Estonia, Slovenia, and Croatia? Or any others you have experience or knowledge of.
l8 reply but Norway and Finland are the non-cucked nordic countries. I've lived in Lapland and there are no niggers plus it's fucking beautiful. If not for the war I would go back live there right now but IDK what will happen to Russia in the next few years. As for Finland Helsinki is mixed but the rest is good. The Finnish language is impossible to learn for non-Finns though so I don't recommend it on that basis alone. A lot of people don't like the weather in the north though and the fact that we are culturally autistic. Sweden has been utterly fucked by immigration and Denmark has been fucked by their welfare state being built on shit policies.

West Germany is fucked by immigrants, the East is still okay. Even in tiny western German towns you hear more Turkish being spoken than German. Berlin is probably the only capital city I'd want to live in despite the faggotry there. Oddly I will say that Germany outside of Berlin doesn't feel as "free" as other central and northern european countries, it's strange. Don't go to the UK. Netherlands is interesting because the policies are very leftist but it kinda works? Amsterdam is a fucked city though.

Czechia is good. It's economically good and not as fucked by immigration but the culture is kinda degenerate in a way that you don't see in Central Europe outside of Berlin and Amsterdam. Poland is amazing right now though. Low cost of living, thrives economically, the retarded poles have self-deported to the UK before, and the Ukrainian refugees don't cause as much trouble as the media makes out. Slavs are slavs. In Eastern Europe you have to try and learn the language because you can't get by with just English. In Denmark, Germany and Netherlands everyone speaks English but its less true for other places.

I have trouble recommending Hungary and Romania because of the gypsies. If you think niggers or sandniggers are bad, you haven't seen gypsies. There is no reasoning or being friends with a gypsy like with other races, they will inevitably stab you in the back no matter what you do. If they move a caravan near your house, only God almighty can help you.

This has been my personal exp from essentially growing up nomadic across Europe.
 
l8 reply but Norway and Finland are the non-cucked nordic countries. I've lived in Lapland and there are no niggers plus it's fucking beautiful. If not for the war I would go back live there right now but IDK what will happen to Russia in the next few years. As for Finland Helsinki is mixed but the rest is good. The Finnish language is impossible to learn for non-Finns though so I don't recommend it on that basis alone. A lot of people don't like the weather in the north though and the fact that we are culturally autistic. Sweden has been utterly fucked by immigration and Denmark has been fucked by their welfare state being built on shit policies.
Thanks for the response, really informative stuff. I'm interested in your assessment of Denmark -- you're the second Kiwi today I've seen criticize them despite most people absolutely lionizing their immigration restrictions.

Your description of the Netherlands also really intrigues me; it seems like they also have insane levels of migrants (mostly Turks and Moroccans, to my understanding) yet don't seem to have the same problems as places like the UK and France do. Is it because they actually, shock of shocks, managed to integrate? Or is it because they mostly just stick to their ghettoes and urban bughives smoking weed all day, and are too stoned and insular to really cause much of a stir except for random riots over Israeli footballers?
 
I live in the most beautiful geological region in the US, but I cannot in good conscious recommend it because it has such proximity to a tranny nexus that even though it's 99% rural farmland and state forests I still see them ALL THE TIME. Unfortunately I am deeply attached to this place and my whole family is here, so I have to make peace with this. It helps to remember that they will become disabled and hopefully invisible early in life.
PNW? Western NC?
 
Thanks for the response, really informative stuff. I'm interested in your assessment of Denmark -- you're the second Kiwi today I've seen criticize them despite most people absolutely lionizing their immigration restrictions.

Your description of the Netherlands also really intrigues me; it seems like they also have insane levels of migrants (mostly Turks and Moroccans, to my understanding) yet don't seem to have the same problems as places like the UK and France do. Is it because they actually, shock of shocks, managed to integrate? Or is it because they mostly just stick to their ghettoes and urban bughives smoking weed all day, and are too stoned and insular to really cause much of a stir except for random riots over Israeli footballers?
Regarding Denmark, it has the same immigration problem as Sweden in the sense that there are immigrants who are legally undeportable due to the asylum system, these are the criminal gang members people complain about. The immigration restrictions are very strict for the good people who actually want to live in peace and contribute, but don't do anything for the criminals. It's the opposite of how it should be.
The bigger problem with Denmark though is the gibs system. If you work there, you can expect the majority of your income to be taxed and it will go to some NEET retard living off welfare. It's also an expensive country, so there is virtually no upwards mobility. There's a thriving underground economy because people are just fucking fed up with the government taking all of their money.

Nevertheless, it's a safe (compared to Germany and Sweden), high trust country. You can expect the government to help you if you're in a tough spot, like they will pay your rent or whatever so you don't become homeless, but it's nowhere worth the amount of taxes Danes pay and there are big holes in the system. There are universal problems that the cops ignore, but I feel like it's less of a problem there than in Germany, Netherlands, Czechia etc.

As for the Netherlands, it's honestly a very free country. They're the biggest producer and exporter of drugs in Europe but it doesn't affect the local population much because soft drugs are decriminalized and the government invests heavily into social services and stuff like harm reduction for hard drugs (which, despite a lot of kiwis saying the opposite, does actually work well). Drugs are what brings in most of the money for gangs, but it doesn't cause social issues within the country, only for neighboring countries lol.
They also have a huge sex industry in the form of megabrothels because prostitution is "legalized and regulated" just like in Germany. It's an absolutely fucking retarded system that causes these countries to become human trafficking hotspots by creating a parallel underground industry selling illegal migrants and children who can not comply with the regulations while attracting subhuman johns. This underground industry is then ignored by the government of the Netherlands so they can suck themselves off on the international stage. The Danish/Czech/Polish model where the government doesn't intervene in anything works best for prostitutes.

Basically to sum it all up, imagine that the Netherlands have a huge black market and lots of gangs competing there, and then the fucking government comes in to create their own gang and outcompete all the migrants in their own game. I would not raise a family there, but their system works. In a way they're like China who produce a lot of Fentanyl but don't have any drug issues within the country, they just export their problems elsewhere. UK and France try to tackle crime through policing, while the Netherlands tackle it by taking over the market.
 
I'm kinda shocked that faggotry spread to rural areas in the US, here in EU it's the opposite. Are you saying there's actual competent "trans folk" who can actually survive in rural areas without starbucks access? Anyway, I can only imagine your suffering, sending hugs and prayers.
Troons in rural areas are the product of economically dead towns and absent parents due to said economic situation. This caused children in otherwise rural conservative areas to be reliant on the internet for parenting, and as we all know, tumbr and reddit are a breeding ground for groomers and troons who want nothing more than some "eggs" to crack. Now because the downs are economic dead ends, the troons can't even leave, so they just fester around town before eventually getting a one way ticket to a deep blue city. I remember stopping in a town in the fuckmiddle of nowhere and STILL seeing the local troons, in a place that has never once voted dem lmfao.
 
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