Whiskey - It's the water of life!

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Homoerotic Cougar-kun said:
it's funny because my boss basically told me about it and tried to get me to get hype for it and I was like, "yeah, ok, we'll see when it comes in and I kick the tires on it" and he got really weird about that. It might be a good bonded bourbon, it might be meh, I'm not gonna turn into a shill for something that ain't worth it bro. Never did get to find out if it was good. Might swing by and see if it's on the shelves.
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Couple people I know have hyped it up as the next coming of Christ. I like Dickel's low end bottles for mixed drinks as they're practically tolerable in a mixed drink.
 
I never really got the crazy bourbon hype that drives prices up exponentially and shit like that. There's nothing wrong with bourbon even though I prefer scotch most of the time, but there seems to be a culture among bourbon aficionados where they're constantly chasing after the next big thing in a pointlessly overeager way.
 
ScamL Likely said:
I never really got the crazy bourbon hype that drives prices up exponentially and shit like that. There's nothing wrong with bourbon even though I prefer scotch most of the time, but there seems to be a culture among bourbon aficionados where they're constantly chasing after the next big thing in a pointlessly overeager way.
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Whiskey communities do attract farthuffers and for some reason bourbon attracts some of the worst, which is funny because the pricetag on a tip-top bourbon is generally a fraction of that for a quality scotch.
 
Homoerotic Cougar-kun said:
Whiskey communities do attract farthuffers and for some reason bourbon attracts some of the worst, which is funny because the pricetag on a tip-top bourbon is generally a fraction of that for a quality scotch.
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Yeah, it's inevitable with any type of alcohol that has higher end options available widely enough, but there's a certain quality to the bourbon-centric dudes who partake in that kind of pissing contest-like mentality about always trying to find the hottest and newest high end bourbon that makes them stand out from your average booze snob somehow.
 
ScamL Likely said:
There's nothing wrong with bourbon even though I prefer scotch most of the time, but there seems to be a culture among bourbon aficionados where they're constantly chasing after the next big thing in a pointlessly overeager way.
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They want it to be some highbrow hoity-toity thing like single-malt scotch, when it is just some damn good hooch. Just enjoy it and fuck off with the hipster shit.
 
I'm a Whiskey pleb tbh, I either drink Black Label and soda at a bar or sometimes Jim Beam and coke if I want a few drinks while watching a movie at home.

Heineken beer or Leo / Chang in Asia

Jack Daniels has that awful sweet after taste.
 
Mediocre said:
I'm a Whiskey pleb tbh, I either drink Black Label and soda at a bar or sometimes Jim Beam and coke if I want a few drinks while watching a movie at home.
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Those are serviceable options if you only like cocktails. Anything significantly fancier than those is mostly meant to be sipped neat or maybe with a splash of water depending on your tastes, and not everyone's into the kind of drinking that justifies the price point of going for the top shelf.
 
Homoerotic Cougar-kun said:
Whiskey communities do attract farthuffers and for some reason bourbon attracts some of the worst, which is funny because the pricetag on a tip-top bourbon is generally a fraction of that for a quality scotch.
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So you're implying the market price of Pappy is grossly overblown, especially since that old. magical Stitzel-Weller stock must be long gone?
Homoerotic Cougar-kun said:
Still think that run of Tabasco bourbon Dickel did is both the most horrifying and hilarious thing and I'd try a shot of it for shiggles.
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Ever tried honey&chili vodka?

Nemiroff

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They're fucking awful. One of my uncles bought a bottle for my grandfather. Old man opened it, poured everyone a shot, downed it - "Son, with relatives like you, I don't even need enemies." - and dumped it all into the toilet.
 
Boris Blank's glass eye said:
So you're implying the market price of Pappy is grossly overblown, especially since that old. magical Stitzel-Weller stock must be long gone?

Ever tried honey&chili vodka?

Nemiroff

Bold Character Since 1872. Nemiroff is a brand with a 150-year history presented in 5 continents. Its production dates back to 1872 in Nemyriv town, Ukraine
nemiroff.vodka nemiroff.vodka

They're fucking awful. One of my uncles bought a bottle for my grandfather. Old man opened it, poured everyone a shot, downed it - "Son, with relatives like you, I don't even need enemies." - and dumped it all into the toilet.
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sometimes with liquor pricing it's about what you think you can get someone to pay for something

Weller's nice to be sure, but for my money I will happily settle for something like Willett PSR, McKenna 10yr Bonded... things like Weller and Blanton's are a royal pain to find (especially Blanton's jesus). Though honestly the most expensive whiskeys you'll find in a good liquor store can't hold a candle to some of the insanity I see in cognac pricing.
 
Homoerotic Cougar-kun said:
sometimes with liquor pricing it's about what you think you can get someone to pay for something

Weller's nice to be sure, but for my money I will happily settle for something like Willett PSR, McKenna 10yr Bonded... things like Weller and Blanton's are a royal pain to find (especially Blanton's jesus). Though honestly the most expensive whiskeys you'll find in a good liquor store can't hold a candle to some of the insanity I see in cognac pricing.
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Oh yeah. I love going in duty-free stores when I'm killing time at an airport just to see what the most obnoxiously overpriced liquor is. It's always cognac. Like $3,000 to $10,000 per bottle ridiculous.
 
Homoerotic Cougar-kun said:
Whiskey communities do attract farthuffers and for some reason bourbon attracts some of the worst, which is funny because the pricetag on a tip-top bourbon is generally a fraction of that for a quality scotch.
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Fads like these come and go. I think it's just a herd mentality thing. Before the bourbon craze you had the Japanese whisky bubble, where such a feeding frenzy erupted around aged Suntory whiskies that for all intents and purposes they vanished from the market. Japanese bars these days still make money hand over fist selling Suntory 12-year to hipster tourists at comically inflated prices.
 
neverendingmidi said:
Oh yeah. I love going in duty-free stores when I'm killing time at an airport just to see what the most obnoxiously overpriced liquor is. It's always cognac. Like $3,000 to $10,000 per bottle ridiculous.
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Overpriced shit like that always comes down to:
  • marketing gimmicks like "night bottles"
  • branding and marketing shit like Diageo's Game of Thrones single malts
  • scarcity, either natural (ultra-aged spirits) or intentional and artificial (Macallan's insanely strict "quality control")
  • a quick surge in popularity
  • a hefty dose of dick measuring contest, because most of that price is for bragging rights
The only proper cognac I have ever tried is Hennessy VS, and which is officially recommended as a mixer. While not exactly comparable, the two brandies I have more experience with are dirt cheap St Remy (not Remy Martin) XO, which costs half as much as the two year old Hennessy, and the Ararat 5* which costs around the same. Moving up, a bottle of Hennessy XO costs $190-200, while you can get a bottle of Ararat Nairi (20 years old) for half as much. Then there are the limited editions, the exclusive editions, whatever - it's all bullshit, especially when it's literally the same spirit in a fancier-than-usual bottle or box, like the Chivas Regal 18 "Pininfarina Edition" or the dozens of different Royal Salute editions.
 
Oh god Chivas. I don't understand why anyone bothers with Chivas Regal, it's easily the most overhyped blended scotch after Johnnie. The Chivas Regal 25 in particular makes me laugh because MORE YEARS IS BETTER RIGHT? (Given that high-quality single malts usually don't bother with anything older than 18 years barring a handful of exceptions...)

For cognacs, fuck Hennessy seriously. Get yourself some Hine. Brandies, Ararat is an excellent choice, as is Metaxa.
 
As far as brandy and cognac go I wouldn't touch anything that isn't at least a VSOP because VSes taste rancid to me, and yeah, the French are really obnoxious when it comes to marking things up or coming up with the most outrageously overpriced shit. Though it doesn't seem like there's as much hype around them by comparison so much as certain distillers just being complete wankers.
 
I'm convinced that people who claim to like the taste of particular alcohols are lying.
Shit's nasty. It fuckin burns your mouth. Buy the cheap shit and throw it past your tongue, or mix it until you can't taste it.
 
Crown and Coke is my jam
I'll drink it neat too but it has to be ice cold.
Started out drinking Fireball because anything cinnamon flavored is the shit imo

I've seen ads for and want to try Crown Peach but I'm pretty sure it's a seasonal flavor and it's gone for the holidays. Boohoo, I'm always late to the punch.
 
I tried cognac once. Tasted like raisins to me. Like raisin liquor or something. Pass.

I tried the rum cask aged Tullamore Dew. Not bad, but I had it over ice, and I think I'd get more flavors out of it straight.
 
neverendingmidi said:
I tried cognac once. Tasted like raisins to me. Like raisin liquor or something. Pass.

I tried the rum cask aged Tullamore Dew. Not bad, but I had it over ice, and I think I'd get more flavors out of it straight.
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Tully gets discounted as a "cheap" Irish and that's really a horrible disservice to an inexpensive yet fairly tasty whiskey. Is it top-shelf? Probably not. Doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed.
 
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