Community Debate Ethics in VTubing, Model Design and Voice Acting, Loli and Loli-adjacency - Containment zone for third rail enjoyers

[Desu Mountain]

Alright, as someone who has been actively learning Japanese for about 8 years now, let me settle this dispute. In Japanese, loli and lolikko both mean "little girl" and lolicon means "pedophile" or more specifically "someone who is attracted to little girls". There is no ambiguity about this in Japanese like there is in English. This holds true regardless of if the little girl in question is real or a cartoon, regardless of whether the little girl is being sexualized or not, and regardless of if the girl is underage or really 900 years old. You will see people saying things like "loli hakken" (little girl discovered) when a litte girl appears on screen on a livestream and when people deny being pedophiles they say "ore wa lolicon ja nai" (I am not a pedophile).

And yes, same thing goes for shota and shotacon. Just switch out the word "girl" for "boy". Seriously, I have heard the words "Who's that shota?" come out of the mouths of more than one Japanese youtuber in different contexts, including Okayu and Korone.

 

[Sebben Crudele II]

Doom is my favorite game and the pedotards using it as a gotcha to defend their pedotardation really rustle my jimmies. Doomguy kills demons from hell. Doomguy is a good guy killing bad guys. The "humans" he kills are zombies that used to be his crewmates too. If you feel violent or whatever the fuck playing Doom you're feeling violent over doing an ontologically good deed.

Niggers never grab Postal or Hatred for this stupid nonargument, it's always fucking Doom for some reason.

Even if they grabbed Postal or Hatred the point still stands that nobody normal gets fucking aroused over it. If you hear someone being aroused while enacting violence in a video game and going HELL YEAH LOOK AT THAT DECAPITATION THAT'S SO HOT LOOK AT THOSE ENTRAILS FLYING I'M SO HARD RIGHT NOW then if you are a normal human being with iq that isn't two digits you'd rightfully think that person is unhinged and wouldn't trust them with access to any kind of potential weapon let alone an actual fucking gun. You'd agree the person is insane and should be on a list. They would be mocked here on the Farms.

But for some reason if a motherfucker goes UOOOH SO HOT CUNNY SO CUTE AND FUNNY NEED CORRECTION at Saba then it's fine because it's not real shitlord!! It's a drawing!! What about Doom? What about muh gun control? Checkmate you hateful anime racist, there's nothing wrong with the anime child showing her belly, the eroticism is on a drawing and it's fine if I find it hot!! No, it's not fine. You're getting horny over this. The problem is that you're aroused by child-like figures. It's not a petite anything, I don't see you masturbating at drawings of adults with dwarfism, you're aroused at noodle arms and short stature and small faces and big eyes and undeveloped hips to waist ratio and toddler talk, all combined. There's no way you can um ackshually this. There's no way you can paint it as innocent because you can absolutely play an actual child character without any sexualization whatsoever, you can look up Koiro (5), it's an adult voice actress that was playing a fictional anime kid persona. There's no porno shit, there's no open shirt showing belly, there's no uooooh references. The joke is the absurdity of a kindergartener playing PUBG, or covering a metal song. The problem with pedo promoters such as FallenShadow or this woman is not that they are playing a child character in videos, it's the character they are playing and the framing and aestethics they are using. Nobody would care if there was no fucking sexualization.

Fucking gorilla pedo niggers are so exhausting.

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

No he shouldn't. The Hasan declination arc needs to keep happening and becoming a v-tuber might forestall the inevitable decline into a cautionary tale about why being a degenerate Turk Roach isn't acceptable.

Might as well as let DarkSydePhil become one at that point. Not that it woulf benefit them anyways especially everyone knows how they look like IRL.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Loli Mass Debates thread is now up

Community Thread 'Debate Ethics in VTubing, Model Design and Voice Acting, Loli and Loli-adjacency'

Jun 29, 2025

Tick tock Saba, your time is running out.

I know I am about to get berated here for making this post.
IM GONNA NUMBERFAG!!!!!!!(Perfect timing of screenshot for Gigi the moment she ended stream)

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If people are spergong out about loli in any way and it’s not in that thread, report it and I’ll have it moved.

I don't like Gura and her content, but Venti is smelly and I would not touch her with a ten foot pole

 

[homofagget420]

not a fan of Panko's new "cover song" I take it

Ironically enough when the saba debut was going on and I wanted to point out to Null the significance of the Krab/Kani thing I just went to grab a video from youtube using the word so he could hear how it's said, and what came up was Phase Connect lol

Not sure if anyone has pointed it out yet, but she says カニを食べよう(kani wo tabeyou/let's eat crab(cunny)).

 

[Wilson The Ball]

Not sure if anyone has pointed it out yet, but she says カニを食べよう(kani wo tabeyou/let's eat crab(cunny)).

I can never eat Crab Rangoon again

 

[BathTubShine]

Oy vey, anime Fox thinks people who jerk off to loli are freaks and wants them not to go near any child ever.

Maybe dear feeder could join forces with shortfatotaku or the trannies to take down the hecking pedophile catering Foxurino(E: and Jim too of course) down for good
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[FieldPiece]

I don't get how Kirsche or really anyone can say "loli is just a body type". If that was the case then why don't they just say short and flat instead of explicitly referencing a book about a pedophile? It's as disingenuous as someone claiming they read Playboy for the articles or someone like PlaguedMoth claiming he sells gore videos to "remember the victims".

 

[Wilson The Ball]

I don't get how Kirsche or really anyone can say "loli is just a body type". If that was the case then why don't they just say short and flat instead of explicitly referencing a book about a pedophile? It's as disingenuous as someone claiming they read Playboy for the articles or someone like PlaguedMoth claiming he sells gore videos to "remember the victims".

The proper term in her claimed reasoning would be "petite". Yet she actively chooses the Japanese word to appear more kawaii desu and in with the crowd she appeals to. For Men, the explanation is rather easy to discern. For women, we must dig deeper.

 

[Kivotos strongest Sensei]

I don't get how Kirsche or really anyone can say "loli is just a body type". If that was the case then why don't they just say short and flat instead of explicitly referencing a book about a pedophile? It's as disingenuous as someone claiming they read Playboy for the articles or someone like PlaguedMoth claiming he sells gore videos to "remember the victims".

Because by using the word "Loli", you're referencing an archetype, with all the cultural context associated with it. We use shorthand in everyday language, especially in English, where compounds and calques are generally not used but the word is loaned almost verbatim. When you hear "Loli", you know what is meant. When you hear "short and flat", it could be anything (cue in Vaush's 'shortstack' clip). While I understand that the word makes you cringe, and in the west the connotation is overwhelmingly negative because Nabokov's book is not meant to be insipiring, it would be the same as asking not to use the word "Sushi" for sushi, but "Rice with raw fish" instead.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I don't get how Kirsche or really anyone can say "loli is just a body type". If that was the case then why don't they just say short and flat instead of explicitly referencing a book about a pedophile? It's as disingenuous as someone claiming they read Playboy for the articles or someone like PlaguedMoth claiming he sells gore videos to "remember the victims".

Because if loli is "just a body type" that can be of any age instead of a cartoon child then she can defend it while still claiming she doesn't defend pedos. That the only reason she says that, she knows it's not true.

Everyone in this sphere is disingenuous because they want the pedo money but they don't want to openly say it.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Because if loli is "just a body type" that can be of any age instead of a cartoon child then she can defend it while still claiming she doesn't defend pedos. That the only reason she says that, she knows it's not true.

Everyone in this sphere is disingenuous because they want the pedo money but they don't want to openly say it.

there was a doc about used up porn stars that featured a no tit no ass famous for a mass bukkake scene and fuckin charlie sheen for coke that said she got big fake tits bolted on because she wasnt comfortable being a stand in for pedos. the whorehouse madam in louis theroux's doc about the bunny ranch said the same thing about the guys who pick the loli looking whore. "they like them young"

everyone knows whats going on with this loli petite shit

 

[sabas cum factory]

schizo rant incoming, im on crackhead hours and now that shes out of the public eye i can say shit about her without having to be lumped in with the troons and fags.

kirsche, not because of some soy fag reasons though, dont get me wrong. she's just a complete nothing. unfunny, fat, ugly, old and terminally single grease ball who doesn't actually believe in the shit she says. she only says it because its the only way she can think to substitute a personality, and the retards lap it up. look at the faggot proctor on the virtual asylum, everyone there in fact, they're completely kirsche pilled even though she's a pedo with nothing of value, she wouldnt even be worth fucking, but she said a few nice things about a few retards with some semblence of online clout, and whispered vapid and brain dead talking points she doesnt actually believe into their ears, that and the troon writing his "unbiased" articles are the only reasons kirsche has an audience. hopefully the next time she gets doxxed its by someone with spree killer intent, get some supreme gentlemen shenanigans into the mix.

i also just think its funny how she tries to portray this "i'll beef with anyone, i can say and do anything" image, but every single time she's faced criticism or consequences for the shit she has said, she instantly runs to the law. which is, of course, still within the claim i made of her being about nothing, i just dont get why she was lauded for this, someone wrote some mean things about you online and you lawyered up? she's a fucking nigger, why would anyone clap for that jew shit?

edi: i am very aware how hard into the autismo paint i went as well, but i said what i said so i'm standing by it.

 

[DOOMSlayer]

who doesn't actually believe in the shit she says.

She's been very consistent about her beliefs since she was a 2view.

she's a pedo

You got any actual evidence? If it's her loli model(that she's only used a handful of times as a meme), or the fact that her opinion on it is very centrist(I think it's gross and probably wouldn't want you around my kids but it's not real, so getting panties twisted over it is a waste of energy), save it.

faced criticism or consequences for the shit she has said, she instantly runs to the law.

As far as I know, she only did that with anal violence because of actual falsehoods in the articles he wrote, which did cause harm to her career. She didn't resort to that when beefing with people like SFO.

Edit: lmao this is your only post on this account and you joined today, what a fucking retarded faggot you are.

 

[sabas cum factory]

Vtubing lets weebs pretend that cat girls and dog girls and fox girls are real, let me pretend libertarian girls are real.

Edit: also what the fuck is that username bud?

Its my truth, I've lost gallons to her.

Edit: fuck, my identity is "the edit retard"

Mental illness.

Would I be here if I wasn't mentally ill?
Besides, thats just the pot calling the kettle a nigger. We watch (((female))) chink cartoons play veedjya games and talk about nothing and throw money at them then go online and sperg out over their personal lives, this ain't where the well adjusted specimens who contribute anything meaningful to society come to play.

 

[dick brain]

Its my truth, I've lost gallons to her.

Edit: fuck, my identity is "the edit retard"


Would I be here if I wasn't mentally ill?
Besides, thats just the pot calling the kettle a nigger. We watch (((female))) chink cartoons play veedjya games and talk about nothing and throw money at them then go online and sperg out over their personal lives, this ain't where the well adjusted specimens who contribute anything meaningful to society come to play.

This nigga jacks off to loli.

 

[Nicholas Gurrmann]

He thinks she and Pippa are pedos based upon that one stream where the watched a vice hit piece on Japan and. the topic of Lolicon and Japan’s lax enforcement of child molestation laws came up. The stream where they spent they spent an hour or so bemoaning the fact that pedos aren’t punished hard enough in Japan, made at least one woodchipper joke and called Lolicon hentai disgusting while also not caring about it as much because there’s no direct victim.

He also cites the fact that Pippa has an “Uwo cry” emote and claims that this is a smoking gun that proves she’s catering to pedos despite none of her content being like that. In short, he’s doing what the troons do and cherry picking edgy jokes that look bad out of context.

"Vice hitpiece". Even though it's 100% true. Also Pippa absolutely loves lolicon, she even says she's one herself.

 

[sabas cum factory]

This nigga jacks off to loli.

can you keep a secret? saba used to be gawr gura, there was a xD funny clip of someone saying they lost gallons to her that became a meme. get the joke now? chemically castrate yourself, we dont need your room temperature iq spreading.

 

[sabas cum factory]

sorry for double posting, but also not really sorry because whoever moved my comment here probably thinks I'm going to have more to say about this topic than I am. I recognise what the words in the arguments most people are making are but I don't get what they're saying. I just watch vtubers I like who make me laugh, the end. I don't run a morality test on myself or have the legal definition of cp bookmarked just in case someone calls loli the same thing as cp.

don't take cartoons on the internet so seriously faggots. or take it more seriously and start actively killing each other, highlander it.