Who is the most evil?

Susan and Cory make me want to create elaborate Saw traps for what they did to those kids. Munchies can burn in hell.
 
I dunno, whites didn't really introduce slavery to any but the most isolated peoples, it's a pretty universal concept. The Africans did it, the American Indians did it. Latin Americans really did it. The worst thing about white exploration was spreading smallpox. That's destructive, sure, but it's hardly evil.


That is correct we didn't create slavery, but we used it going all the way back to roman times. I would say the Arab slave trade was far worse than the Atlantic slave trade. That is making excuses though. We shouldn't have done it and I wish we never brought slaves to the Americas.
 
If the definition of "evil" is thus: causing the most suffering in the world and changing the world for the worst. Then who do you Kiwi's sincerely believe is the most evil? If we could avoid sarcastic "It's Null!" answers then great but I'm no dictator (pardon the pun). If you truly believe that Mark Zuckerberg is worse than Hitler then let's hear it.

If we're going with just the raw body count there have been many worse men then Hitler. Stalin killed about 20 million of his people through famines. Mao killed about 50 million Chinese. And supposedly King Leopold killed roughly 100 million. But those guys aren't the go-to poster children of the definition of evil like Hitler.

There's not much point in looking at who's evil in history, there's more point to looking at who's evil now.

And first are those who are into satanic abuse cults, that torture, kill and eat children and other people.


Second those who enable satanic abuse cults. The press, police and everybody who knows about it and through either fear, bribery or other motivation allow this to happen. A special circle of hell is reserved for the intellectuals who built the scientific ground for things like satanic panic and false memory to give some good sounding firepower to silence witnesses and whistleblowers.

All other evil is a grade below that.

Ps. yes this put styxhexenhammer666 in the second circle for his continual harping on satanic panic and probably part of the reason why he is still on youtube, imho.
 
Coach Red Pill funds all shitposters, so clearly him. Worse than Soros.
 
They killed untold millions. The Atlantic slave trade was by majority the British and the French. You conquered not only North America, but South America, Central America and you brought slavery there. What the french did the to Haitians is horrible. What you did to the Africans is much more so.

Those poor peaceloving aztec of central america.
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Those poor anti-slavery africans, who practised slavery before encountering europeans and even after europeans tried to end the practice. Who practice slavery even today and still have slave markets.
 
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Those poor anti-slavery africans, who practised slavery before encountering europeans and even after europeans tried to end the practice. Who practice slavery even today and still have slave markets.


Why are people missing what the OP asked? Who caused the most damage/being evil. Did the Africans conquer the continents, did the Aztec?

Nope. Christ some of you people are really thick. It's okay to say the white man did this. I feel no shame for it, because we brought civilization to many around the world.

And when they talk about cultural appropriations well tell them to give up their cell phones, computers, airlines etc.

Can't you acknowledge that we did this without being butt hurt about it?

We killed a lot of people who were minding their own business. I'd tend to say that was evil.
 
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Why are people missing what the OP asked? Who caused the most damage/being evil. Did the Africans conquer the continents, did the Aztec?

Nope. Christ some of you people are really thick. It's okay to say the white man did this. I feel no shame for it, because we brought civilization to many around the world.

And when they talk about cultural appropriations well tell them to give up their cell phones, computers, airlines etc.

Can't you acknowledge that we did this without being butt hurt about it?

We killed a lot of people who were minding their own business. I'd tend to say that was evil.

I'm okay when you are portraying things somewhat accurately, but you're not. Europeans didn't bring slavery to the americas. There was already slavery there. Yes, they are different kinds of slavery, but it's just false to say the europeans were the first to bring slavery to the americas.

It's also kind of interesting how in your first messages you wrote "They killed untold millions." and "You conquered not only North America, but South America, Central America and you brought slavery there. What the french did the to Haitians is horrible. What you did to the Africans is much more so. "

But when I throw some mild banter your way, suddenly it's "I feel no shame for it, because we brought civilization to many around the world." and "we did this "

So which is it? Do you belong to that group or not?

Is it a you/they? Or is it an us/we who did this?

It's a very convenient change. Very slippery.
 
I'm okay when you are portraying things somewhat accurately, but you're not. Europeans didn't bring slavery to the americas. There was already slavery there. Yes, they are different kinds of slavery, but it's just false to say the europeans were the first to bring slavery to the americas.

It's also kind of interesting how in your first messages you wrote "They killed untold millions." and "You conquered not only North America, but South America, Central America and you brought slavery there. What the french did the to Haitians is horrible. What you did to the Africans is much more so. "

But when I throw some mild banter your way, suddenly it's "I feel no shame for it, because we brought civilization to many around the world." and "we did this "

So which is it? Do you belong to that group or not?

Is it a you/they? Or is it an us/we who did this?

It's a very convenient change. Very slippery.


Nope it's not a convenient change. I acknowledge the slave trade of the Arabs and also acknowledge that native Americans took slaves including white Europeans to raise them as native Americans. I also mentioned the Barbary nations.

The Europeans industrialized though and that is why it is called the Atlantic slave trade.

I can acknowledge the same things at the same time. The fact that I was arguing was what the OP posted. Who was the most evil and if you count killing people and enslaving them and conquering their nations then the European powers were the most efficient and spread world wide.

How do you not understand this? Go look up a list of countries today and tell me how many European nations conquered them compared to another block.

Go on, because even the mongols weren't as efficient or widespread.

Can we just acknowledge that...which was my whole point from my first post.
 
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Nope it's not a convenient change. I acknowledge the slave trade of the Arabs and also acknowledge that native Americans took slaves including white Europeans to raise them as native Americans. I also mentioned the Barbary nations.

It's not about what you "acknowledge", it's the slippery language you use where you weren't part of the group when you were calling out a group for being the most evil, but when you got the slightest bit of resistance (read back, it really wasn't that much banter or resistance at all), suddenly, to elicit empathy and lend credibility, as if you were taking responsibility, you were part of the group that did the most evil.

Really makes one think.
 
Whoever the fuck invented automated tech support. Fun fact: if you yell "I'M GOING TO SKULLFUCK YOU, YOU STUPID COMPUTER, GIVE ME A PERSON" into the phone some of these tech support bots will politely kick you to a real human being in rapid fashion.
 
It's not about what you "acknowledge", it's the slippery language you use where you weren't part of the group when you were calling out a group for being the most evil, but when you got the slightest bit of resistance (read back, it really wasn't that much banter or resistance at all), suddenly, to elicit empathy and lend credibility, as if you were taking responsibility, you were part of the group that did the most evil.

Really makes one think.

Dude I'm white and of European descent and I know what we did. This isn't self hatred or whatever you are trying to pin on me. I'm talking history and this is our history. I'm not sure of your angle here.

We killed a lot of white people too. That is our history.
 
Whoever the fuck invented automated tech support. Fun fact: if you yell "I'M GOING TO SKULLFUCK YOU, YOU STUPID COMPUTER, GIVE ME A PERSON" into the phone some of these tech support bots will politely kick you to a real human being in rapid fashion.
I worked tech support when I was younger and really having humans perform those insane guidelines isn't any better.

I quit when the new rules went into play and we could only replace modems if people were, and this was the language used "irrationally angry". Until that point we had to bullshit, dodge, stall, whatever, even if the problem was clearly the modem.

Dude I'm white and of European descent and I know what we did. This isn't self hatred or whatever you are trying to pin on me. I'm talking history and this is our history. I'm not sure of your angle here.

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If I come conquer your country do you think I'm the good guy or the bad guy.

Pretty simple question ain't it?

If it were you, I'd probably think you were autistic.

Again, try to keep up, I'm not contesting that you consider slavery or conquering evil.
 
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I worked tech support when I was younger and really having humans perform those insane guidelines isn't any better.

I quit when the new rules went into play and we could only replace modems if people were, and this was the language used "irrationally angry". Until that point we had to bullshit, dodge, stall, whatever, even if the problem was clearly the modem.

Well, it probably helped my case then that I probably sounded like I was ready to reach through the phone and strangle the motherfucker on the other end if he did so much as protest about me demanding them send out someone to check the fucking box. Yes, I jumped through all their hoops and a few those mooks don't even mention besides. Fix your shit, assholes. At least the human being will ram it through when the computer won't.
 
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