Whose head has gotten bigger: J.K. Rowling or George R.R. Martin

[Florence]

Rowling. She’s quite dedicated to retroactively destroying Harry Potter. Not because she accepts the Hermione is black headcanon or whatever, but her fucking POOP EXPLANATION.

http://kasaron.tumblr.com/post/166544703019/heatandapathy-cakecountry-brookeawooka

Also she claims that hufflepuff has orgies now which is just... ew.

DESIGNATED SHITTING SCHOOLS

 

[Sable]

Gurm can be a little preachy occasionally, but he's a slightly grumpy old hippy with a thing for readheads and unrequited love, and has been like that for ages. He's been writing books about war killing everyone in a scifi and/or fantasy setting since the late 70's, and struck it big with TV money 15 years after he started his most popular series of books. I think all the money from that means he doesn't have to write, so he just posts about american football and Wildcards, and gets annoyed when people complain he'll die before the series will finish.

J.K Rowling is preachy as fuck, and changes ideals whenever something becomes popular, but HP was/is far bigger which may have led to JK having more ego. It was also more immidiate, she went straight from fucking no-one to well, JK super fast. I don't know if she's always been that bad or whether it was the rise of social media meaning it was more visible, I dunno.

 

[Buer]

Rowling def has the bigger head. I'm pretty sure some SJWs got mad at her for making Dumbledore gay without mentioning it in the books which is prob why she made Hermione black. I think Gurm is right in not being okay with fanfiction considering there's an awful book series called The Shadowhunters which is basically harry potter fanfiction(as in the writer wrote harry potter fanfiction but with a lot of romances and then re purposed them for her book series). Not as bad as that Twilight fanfiction aka 50 Shades of Gray but it still sucks.

 

[Syaoran Li]

J.K. Rowling is the worst, hands down.

The difference between Rowling and Martin's ego is vast. Part of it was how fast Harry Potter became a mainstream pop culture phenomenon versus how fast it took A Song of Ice and Fire to take off in the mainstream world.

Harry Potter was a smash hit overnight and it all went to Rowling's head (and to be honest, Harry Potter was never that good to begin with, even for a children's series) while Martin is just some old man who wrote fantasy and sci-fi novels that were well-regarded within their niche, but didn't get super-huge among casual fans until the HBO series came out.

Like others on here, I get the feeling that George R. R. Martin probably just wants to retire and live out his remaining days in peace but is probably in way too deep with HBO to bail out of it now. Honestly, he should just retire now and pass off his series to a ghost writer, since its probably inevitable that he's gonna pull a Robert Jordan any day now.

 

[Red Hood]

J.K. Rowling at least finished a book series. Yeah, she’s milked the everloving fuck out of it since, and the SJW-isms are annoying af, but she did finish her series.

GRRM is going to end up having his finished by a ghostwriter ala Robert Jordan.

Finish it with a ghostwriter when the writer's a ghost!

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

I wish people would stop misrepresenting the "Hermione was black" thing. Rowling never said that. She just said Hermione could be black because a black actress expressed interest in playing the character in a stage adaptation.

 

[John Titor]

Martin only made one rant about Trump on election day before locking comments on his livejournal and that was it. So kudos for knowing when to walk away?

Rowlings the obvious answer I just want to vent about George for a second.

He doesn’t have a middle name beginning with R, he just uses the initial to be reminiscent of Tolkien.

There are quite a few scenes in the books that involve paragraphs about how a character is shitting, how the heat is coming off the poop, their butthole flexing etc.

And to top it all off the only reason why no one calls it generic fantasy is because there’s no Elves and only one Dwarf.
I much prefer the spastic retcons and nonsense in Warcraft lore than the setting of Westeros because at least there’s interesting things.

His full name is George Raymond Richard Martin. He added Richard on his Confirmation (Catholic thing).

And no one calls it a generic fantasy because it decided not to be about a band of heroes defeating an evil overlord. Then again, I don't read that much fantasy so what do I know.

 

[Absolutego]

Martin only made one rant about Trump on election day before locking comments on his livejournal and that was it. So kudos for knowing when to walk away?

His full name is George Raymond Richard Martin. He added Richard on his Confirmation (Catholic thing).

And no one calls it a generic fantasy because it decided not to be about a band of heroes defeating an evil overlord. Then again, I don't read that much fantasy so what do I know.

I mean he also threw a shitfit over the whole Sad/Rabid Puppies drama with the Hugos, to the point of throwing a separate awards party (complete with their own trophies, natch) for people in the clique that time all the nominees were haram to the social justice crowd, but GRRM is still leagues better than Rowling at both getting off social media when having a tantrum and not soapboxing about politics to his audience. The only real criticism I have for GRRM is that (quantity aside) his prose has gotten much more repetitive over the past two books. How often have you read the following phrases in the last two ASOIAF books?

-Nuncle (shudder)
-Many/much and more
-Near as makes no matter
-Nipples on a breastplate
-Boiled Leather
-Japes (Everything's a jape, never a jest, never a joke, also why does English have three four-letter words starting with J that mean a comedic statement?)
-Words are wind/dark wings, dark words (ok this one may be intentional)

He isn't just in a rut in terms of plot structure, is what I'm saying.

 

[Bass]

I've always got the vibe that GRRM wishes that Wildcards was the series that took off rather than ASOIAF. With Wildcards could just step back into being just the editor, keep his name on the title, and enjoy semi retirement. With ASOIAF he's it as far as content generation is concerned, coupled with his difficulties with plotting out longer works, has put him in over his head.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

To give Rowling credit, the Harry Potter books were a phenomenon that completely revolutionised the children's book market. And if you know your occult history and mythology, they're very well researched. I found them pretty entertaining. Wouldn't call myself a hardcore fan, but I enjoyed them. What bugs me is that now Rowling is determined to wring every last penny out of the series. We're getting prequels, sequels, side material, and what was a pretty decent self-contained series is now just another tired franchise.

With Martin, I think the issue is that no one really expected GoT to become the cultural phenomenon it has, least of all Martin himself. He's an old-school fantasy writer. For most of his life, he's been a background figure, respected within the genre but not a big celebrity. So I can kind of forgive him for being a crotchety asshole, he's not a part of the world he's been pushed into.

So in short, yeah, Rowling. She acts like the Messiah, when ultimately she's just a hack who had a good idea.

 

[proteus4994]

I've always got the vibe that GRRM wishes that Wildcards was the series that took off rather than ASOIAF. With Wildcards could just step back into being just the editor, keep his name on the title, and enjoy semi retirement. With ASOIAF he's it as far as content generation is concerned, coupled with his difficulties with plotting out longer works, has put him in over his head.

Wildcards would be kinda difficult to pass off on a mass audience. The concept is brilliant, but some of the actual stories go into left field quite a bit, even moreso than ASOIAF

One of the heroes has super powers related to how long he has tantric sex. There's also a lot of really vicious violence and rape and shit in some of the stories (the pitfalls of editing anthologies). Again, worse than ASOIAF in some places.

Regarding the original question, it's definitely Rowling. Although people who are saying that GRRM doesn't want stardom, remember that he spent like 20 years writing in Hollywood, including Beauty and the Beast (the TV show from the 80s). He's not THAT opposed to stardom. You don't get that close to Hollywood if you are.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

I don't think Gurm is opposed to stardom, I think he's just opposed to legions of neckbeards calling him a fatass living on borrowed time.

 

[Maxliam]

This, essentially.
I get no ego off GRRM. I get a tired, very old man in so-so health with an armada of demanding fans who never seemed to want this level of fame or recognition. I never get a "wooo imma celebrity" vibe off him, he seems almost irritated by the demands of stardom.
He didn't want one of the most beloved series of all time, a million people hanging on his every word, and an HBO megashow. He wanted to write novels about sad snow men and their depressing world of incest and dragons.

Stardom is very demanding, and the dude is like 80. He doesn't want daily meetings about licensing and branding initiatives, he wants to nap until 11:30 and maybe watch Jeopardy.

I would never want to be famous. People think you belong to them. And I pay a dominatrix for that already, thank you very much!

I don't know much about George. R.R. Martin, but from what I've read, the worst he's done is make a tweet complaining about motivational speeches.

He's got nothing on J.K. Rowling when it comes to ego.

Yeah she really needs to shut the holy fuck up. Harry Potter is poorly written, predictable, and boring. I can't remember the name of this book series but the first one involved a lucky penny that was possessed by a demon. The artwork was awesome. It was set in modern day (well not modern modern but like early 1900's or so if I remember correctly) and was really good. The kid with the lucky penny at first is on a roll kicking a bully's ass and other great stuff but his luck slowly changes before he is almost killed by the penny's demonic force.

Much better kids book that would have never seen the light of day if it came out after Harry Potter. I was luckily too old for it when it came out. I rooted for Voldermort in the movies that I saw. He seemed pretty awesome.

I haven't read anything of Martin's, but the comparison of being full of hot air between him and Rowling doesn't make sense. It'd make more sense if Rowling was compared to Stephenie Meyer, though Rowling would still take home the gold just simply for not recognizing (in time) when she needs to shut the fuck up.

Anyone else think Meyer is into some freaky shit in bed? From what I've heard about Mormon chicks, I heard they speak greek a lot.

Rowling's, because Martin hasn't alienated large portions of his audience via twitter retcons/general socal justice grandstanding

He just seems tired. I'd be tired too if I had a modest success in publishing books and then it blew up on HBO and all of a sudden every retard out there wants a piece of me when I'm in my twilight years.

Rowling. She’s quite dedicated to retroactively destroying Harry Potter. Not because she accepts the Hermione is black headcanon or whatever, but her fucking POOP EXPLANATION.

http://kasaron.tumblr.com/post/166544703019/heatandapathy-cakecountry-brookeawooka

Also she claims that hufflepuff has orgies now which is just... ew.

Don't know which turns me more on...the poop or the hufflepuff orgies....why not both?

Hufflepuff orgy thing was part of a series of fake tweets.

The poop thing...real though...

Real sexy is more like it!

I don't think Gurm is opposed to stardom, I think he's just opposed to legions of neckbeards calling him a fatass living on borrowed time.

The internet has ruined fandoms faster than anything else.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I can't remember the name of this book series but the first one involved a lucky penny that was possessed by a demon. The artwork was awesome. It was set in modern day (well not modern modern but like early 1900's or so if I remember correctly) and was really good. The kid with the lucky penny at first is on a roll kicking a bully's ass and other great stuff but his luck slowly changes before he is almost killed by the penny's demonic force.

That sounds really awesome. I feel like I know this story before, but it's probably something that's been rehashed over and over.

Anyone else think Meyer is into some freaky shit in bed? From what I've heard about Mormon chicks, I heard they speak greek a lot.

Far as I know, good Mormon girls aren't that kinky, and even if they are they keep it in their marriages and no one's the wiser. But Meyer definitely has some issues going on with her that may-or-may-not stem from her Mormonism (it pretty much depends on how she was raised by her parents), and I feel more sorry for her husband and sons for having to put up with her because who knows what's she's like at home, especially now that they're rich. Maybe the husband tries, but the books make me think she's not a happy housewife otherwise. That appears to be the case for a lot of these romance novelists, anyway. (Let's be honest here, what happy housewife has wet dreams about sparkly vampires and decides to write a series of romance novels about it?)

 

[Syaoran Li]

The internet has ruined fandoms faster than anything else.

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Maxliam]

That sounds really awesome. I feel like I know this story before, but it's probably something that's been rehashed over and over.

The cover was awesome and it had illustrations at certain points of the book. The funny thing was that his female friend was a big part of it and she was the main character in the next one. It was actually well done. The second book involved a dangerous magical weapon and at the end a witch (they were basically a group of witches in the books but not faggy wiccan types, like it was cool) who was her mentor pointed out that the weapon itself is neutral "like an a-bomb, it only does whatever the person who wields it does". That's why I'd pin it at least in the late 40's. Also in the first book the kids used pens with ink jars so I assume that if researched it was some time in the early 20th century.

I really wish I could remember the title. It was something "A time soon enough" or something. I read it in middle school and honestly I'd read it again. I normally don't judge books by their cover but if the cover art is good I buy it just for that alone even if it sucks. This did not suck. Harry Potter wishes it could have the cool creepy tone and well written characters it had. Of course every soccer mom would lose her shit because it involved really evil spirits off the bat. Harry Potter eased into like a little bitch.

Far as I know, good Mormon girls aren't that kinky, and even if they are they keep it in their marriages and no one's the wiser. But Meyer definitely has some issues going on with her that may-or-may-not stem from her Mormonism (it pretty much depends on how she was raised by her parents), and I feel more sorry for her husband and sons for having to put up with her because who knows what's she's like at home, especially now that they're rich. Maybe the husband tries, but the books make me think she's not a happy housewife otherwise. That appears to be the case for a lot of these romance novelists, anyway. (Let's be honest here, what happy housewife has wet dreams about sparkly vampires and decides to write a series of romance novels about it?)

I thought the technical virgin thing was rampant in the more religious groups. Every Baptist and Pentecostal chick back home were freaky little girls.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Nor sadder ones.

 

[Jinmen]

I never read George R.R. Martin but I saw a clip from the tv show with some dude having molten silver poured on his head. Pretty awesome. The guy's descriptions can't be any worse than Steven Erikson in terms of unnecessary detail.

Rowling is a harpy with a dusty old vagina who never shuts up on twitter.

 

[Maxliam]

I never read George R.R. Martin but I saw a clip from the tv show with some dude having molten silver poured on his head. Pretty awesome. The guy's descriptions can't be any worse than Steven Erikson in terms of unnecessary detail.

Rowling is a harpy with a dusty old vagina who never shuts up on twitter.

She probably is also a giant dyke or a coal burner.

 

[Broseph Stalin]

I'm pretty much onboard with everyone else in this thread.

JK Rowling takes the cake for biggest ego. She commands an army of brainwashed Twitter followers who will obey her every command. She believes that just because she made billions off a fuckin' children's book, she has some kind of say in the public sphere. I've always been a believer in the work standing apart from the author or artist, and even having a greater amount of attention to it rather than the author or artist. But Rowling has made it all about her.

GRRM? All I know about him politically is that he's rather liberal, was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam era, and made a tweet about how "Winter has come" when Trump won the election. As for ego? Shit, the only ego I get from this guy is wanting to be the next Tolkien (He even stole the R.R. ;^) ). But then again, pretty much every fantasy writer deep down in their mind wants to be the next Tolkien, or at least have close to the same degree of success. If GRRM had an ego the size of Rowling's, we would have The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring Part all in the same year but with shit writing, shit characters, and a far cry from what ASoIaF was. While I'm not a fan of him taking his time with the books, I'm kind of glad he isn't rushing it just to appease the rabid fanboys. If anything I think it shows he's taking great care to perfect his work, even if it means that it never sees the light of day.

Don't get me wrong though, I kinda wish he'd hurry the fuck up.

 

[QB 290]

I'm pretty much onboard with everyone else in this thread.

JK Rowling takes the cake for biggest ego. She commands an army of brainwashed Twitter followers who will obey her every command. She believes that just because she made billions off a fuckin' children's book, she has some kind of say in the public sphere. I've always been a believer in the work standing apart from the author or artist, and even having a greater amount of attention to it rather than the author or artist. But Rowling has made it all about her.

GRRM? All I know about him politically is that he's rather liberal, was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam era, and made a tweet about how "Winter has come" when Trump won the election. As for ego? Shit, the only ego I get from this guy is wanting to be the next Tolkien (He even stole the R.R. ;^) ). But then again, pretty much every fantasy writer deep down in their mind wants to be the next Tolkien, or at least have close to the same degree of success. If GRRM had an ego the size of Rowling's, we would have The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring Part all in the same year but with shit writing, shit characters, and a far cry from what ASoIaF was. While I'm not a fan of him taking his time with the books, I'm kind of glad he isn't rushing it just to appease the rabid fanboys. If anything I think it shows he's taking great care to perfect his work, even if it means that it never sees the light of day.

Don't get me wrong though, I kinda wish he'd hurry the fuck up.

Unless he writes it like J.K Rowling write her last books, pull plots out of thin air, kill of characters to get a reaction and just flat out remove anything interesting from the story and characters.
Then go on twitter and gloat about wizards shitting invisible poop