Why Are Troons so Ugly?

[Zarkov]

Because they don't drink enough bleach.

 

[Real Mayun]

The main reason is the uncanny valley effect. It's the same reason why extremely realistic robots, realistic CGI (like the Polar Express), and robotic (i.e. Siri) voices are off-putting.

Even in passing and semi-passing MTFs/troons, there are still male characteristics. In the less feminine troons, you get to see female clothes, makeup, and mannerisms plastered onto a male body, which creates that feeling that "something isn't right."

We can better see the contrast when you compare troons to actual "outlier" women (i.e., tall women, square-faced women, women with deep voices, etc.). Actual tall women tend to be lean and lanky, while tall troons are built like tanks with broad shoulders. Actual square-faced women include Audrey Hepburn and Emily Deschanel, and they don't have chins the size of baseballs. Kathleen Turner has a baritone voice, and she still sounds a trillion times more feminine than Caitlyn Jenner.

There are many subtle differences between men and women, some of which have very little overlap. Most people are unaware of brow ridges as a sex determiner, but once you see them, you can never unsee them.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Well traps tend to look like girls from a young age and start hormones earlier, troons are hypermasculine even from younger ages. So, it's literally like putting John Goodman in a dress and expecting to be aroused by him. The autism does not help, but I think that's also connected to the hypermasculine characteristics.

That's the issue, traps want to be cute (g)fs, everyone else wants to be ugly enough that they get their deserved tranny attention. Ever noticed how people flip their shit at GDQ when someone who passes shows up? By contrast alone they're twice as convincing, and don't call themselves MsVixenTransGamerPro.

It's all a game of attention, and succeeding means you get none. A bikini wax doesn't get you attention, a ball hanging out does. Go to any transition collection (cough subreddit) and you'll see men far into their 30s who become a bangable woman in mere years. How come little Roxanne von FemmeQueen looks like shit after 10? There you go.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

here's r/transitiontimelines sorted to 'top from all time'. A lot of them didn't start out super feminine looking or super attractive but have become decent looking women.

Here's one month-by-month timeline, and this person is 34 and a 'lesbian'.

 

[Diesel Boogaloo]

here's r/transitiontimelines sorted to 'top from all time'. A lot of them didn't start out super feminine looking or super attractive but have become decent looking women.

Here's one month-by-month timeline, and this person is 34 and a 'lesbian'.
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Getting rid of facial hair, good makeup and not having a bird's nest as your hairstyle seems to do most of the job. Especially if they figure out how to mask their jaw, or if the jaw wasn't too square to begin with. Even the ones from your link that look the most masculine would pass as women without closer inspection.

So many troons are too lazy to do all that and just hope that some long greasy mess dyed teal counts as feminine hair.

 

[Wallace]

Since were talking specifically about troops, perhaps it's an outward manifestation of self-loathing? They want to be viewed as freaks and deviants to cope with their inner shame and guilt?

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

IDK. At an Olive Garden, I was pointed out a Troon by my mom and they looked normal, even if they were a flaming homosexual.

 

[One Man Bland]

Actually, men are gross too, but socially are less arguably less punished for it.

I'd say it's less that men are less socially punished for it and more that their minimal grooming habits tend to be combined with features that are a lot harder to noticeably fuck up. No one's going to notice if you don't use conditioner or style your hair every day if your hair is typically kept extremely short, for instance.

 

[Jaimas]

I'm stealing @AnOminous' bit and I don't even care:

Children's book writer Roald Dahl knows his shit.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Getting rid of facial hair, good makeup and not having a bird's nest as your hairstyle seems to do most of the job. Especially if they figure out how to mask their jaw, or if the jaw wasn't too square to begin with. Even the ones from your link that look the most masculine would pass as women without closer inspection.

So many troons are too lazy to do all that and just hope that some long greasy mess dyed teal counts as feminine hair.

That’s another thing I’d like to bring up. What the fuck is it with so many troons and the aposematic hair dye? It even more common than it is with basic SJWs. It’s fucking ghastly to look at.

 

[Lucricitous]

Three things:
1. If you want an easy pass in being attractive, you aren't attractive.
2. Troons want an easy pass in being attractive.
3. Troons don't get that easy pass.

A lot of them didn't start out super feminine looking or super attractive but have become decent looking women.
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You forgot to say pic unrelated.

 

[Dr. Tremolo]

I swear troonism does attract certain phenotypes. I often see men with long horse-like faces getting into it who look even more unconvincing than even the average man would.

That’s another thing I’d like to bring up. What the fuck is it with so many troons and the aposematic hair dye? It even more common than it is with basic SJWs. It’s fucking ghastly to look at.

It's part of that failed hyperfeminine attempt, I guess. It's just like how troons tend to dress in extremely gaudy clothing not appropriate for their age (or any age) that no real woman would wear - the most passing transwomen do so wearing perfectly normal clothing like a tank top and a pair of jeans (troons compensate by never wearing anything that could be considered gender-neutral either). And attention, of course.

So, it's literally like putting John Goodman in a dress and expecting to be aroused by him.

I think some people could actually be aroused by that.

 

[SeaPancake]

because ugly men make ugly women, not beautiful women, while ugly women can actually make a passing dude in some cases

What you said is not incorrect.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

because they're more likely to be autistic and autistic people are more likely to have minor physical anomalies

This, plus face blindness and lack self awareness are common traits in autism leading to thinking all they need to do is grow their hair and wear some feminine clothes to convince people they are female.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

My theory is that those who troon out tend to be fuckups - they're people who can't hold down a job, have no friends, can't maintain a relationship, suffer from a whole combo platter of mental illnesses, have some form of sexual deviancy they can't keep a lid on and so forth. Trooning out is a last resort - it's basically a way of giving up on life. A kind of desperate attempt to reboot their lives. That's why they change their last names as well as their first, why they get so pissy about deadnames and why they try to rationalise awful shit they've done as being "egg mode."

When someone cares so little about their life that they're basically willing to drop it completely, what are the chances that they're going to care about grooming, hygiene, fashion or health?

I'm stealing @AnOminous' bit and I don't even care:

Children's book writer Roald Dahl knows his shit.

How did Quentin Blake predict the appearance of Sophie Labelle?

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

My theory is that those who troon out tend to be fuckups - they're people who can't hold down a job, have no friends, can't maintain a relationship, suffer from a whole combo platter of mental illnesses, have some form of sexual deviancy they can't keep a lid on and so forth. Trooning out is a last resort - it's basically a way of giving up on life. A kind of desperate attempt to reboot their lives. That's why they change their last names as well as their first, why they get so pissy about deadnames and why they try to rationalise awful shit they've done as being "egg mode."

When someone cares so little about their life that they're basically willing to drop it completely, what are the chances that they're going to care about grooming, hygiene, fashion or health?

How did Quentin Blake predict the appearance of Sophie Labelle?

plus trooning out means people will at least pretend to like you
the older ones are usually fetishists, but the under 30 ones are sad desperate men who are from the same pool of people who become school shooters

 

[allyka]

My bad, please ignore this. Wrong thread. But I think they look ugly since they're stuck in between female and male after taking tetosterone/estrogen and just look weirdly uncanny.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

It's weird, I feel like Mulberrys art has really degraded over the years. Her style used to be nice, and her faces weren't strange. I mean, look the first photo from 2 years back. View attachment 389969
But she's regressed- after a year of making fetish fuel for Alex to a ugly style and uncanny faces.View attachment 389970
Sad, her art was actually good.

are you sure you're in the right thread?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

The face is ONE thing , the male body is another issue. Even if a man gets facial surgery to look more feminine- male hands, legs, shoulders etc. are impossible to get rid off.

A passing face is useless if the rest of the body looks obviously male. Just look at Gigi Greg Gorgeous. He had lots of plastic surgery but compared to his masculine girlfriend he looks massive.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Also, that troons look so gross is a good thing.

They aren't able to trick lesbians. No surprise dick in a situation that could become dangerous for women. People see these men and are immediately turned off.

It's not easy to deal with a bunch of butt ugly men claiming to be lesbians but at least their whole appearence is a big warning sign.