Why are web designers so fucking shit at their job?

I got that layout for a week, then it disappeared. It was terrible. The aim seems to be to push related videos harder, and minimize the comments interaction. Probably because YT makes money when you watch videos with ads, and get in trouble with their creators over what comments say or negative ratings.

Webshit is shit, but this is a particular kind of shit.
 
It's crazy how much better youtube would be if you just removed every feature google added since 2012 and brought back the 2011 channel layout.

I just want all the IRL soyjaks and indians working at google to fucking die. Google+ was the bullet that killed that website, and since then youtube has been nothing but a festering corpse.
 
If that's what they're targeting, they're not even doing a good job of that. Every fucking year, mobile UI elements get smaller and thinner and more cluttered and it gets harder to do basic stuff like seek through a video without accidentally clicking the mute or fullscreen buttons or whatever.

Everything web-related peaked in 2010-2014 and has been getting steadily worse ever since.
I'm not a web designer, but I have some education in it. My primary specialty is security. While things might have looked/felt better 10 years ago, security has always been an issue with website development. PHP has been the reason for a good portion of exploits over the past few years due to webshells and unpatched vulnerabilities, and this was prior to the most recent large PHP vulnerability. This also isn't including the largest portion of exploits being due to memory allocation/leak vulnerabilities that new languages are continually made to resolve. I could go on in regards to the increasing level of security requirements brought on with advances in technology, and those are due to the increasing amount of exploits being discovered, but at the end of the day the reason web technology advances is because technology as a whole advances. Now does it need to keep looking shittier and shittier? No, but they need somebody to design the looks for these websites as the march of progress carries on.
 
Corporate wants it to look cool on tablets and phones. Desktop? What's that??? :):):)?
This and it's a job position that doesn't require any actual skill to do. Every person that made a Geocities page or a website in the mid-to-late 2000s is a web designer. Literal children can do these people's job better than them.

Also, Indians.
 
Why can't every website be like Craigslist?

Hasn't changed site UI in 20 years
Makes hundreds of millions per year
50 active devs that are only there to patch bugs and maintain the site
Accounts are optional

For the longest time I couldn't figure out why every website wasn't like this but then I realized Google was a publicly traded stock and they literally have no other option than to roll out random new "improvements" every year to keep their investors happy. It doesn't help either that the big banks and investing firms are forcing diversity on them as well.

God I fucking hate the stock market
 
Because no one ever got a promotion or a raise because they didn't change anything.
Not a web designer but a graphic designer, sometimes we make a good layout but the higher ups make you change everything to what they think is right, no matter how you teach them about design principles and shit.
the designers are justifying their job by redesigning shit constantly.
I'm guessing this.

There are certain jobs that, if done well, people question why you are needed. If done poorly, people question why you are needed. I'm guessing web design is one of those things.

Why can't every website be like Craigslist?
Is Craigslist privately owned?


FurAffinity is another "good" old site. I forget the term Null used to describe Something Awful, but something like benevolent apathy. The staff at FurAffinity are too lazy and incompetent, they've had one UI redesign in their entire history, and even that was fairly minor. As a result, it's a site that continues to work on basically everything.
 
As much as you may enjoy an excuse to sperg about muh DEI and hate on Indians, the "Sandeep from Freelancer will do it for €20 a week" thing is only true for smaller clients and struggling startups.

One big reason why UX/UI is progressively going to shit elsewhere is because for tech companies' HR departments, your skills and/or experience may at best get you noticed, but what they are actually looking for nowadays is a TikToker attitude and overall quirkiness uwu. I've seen posts from tech recruiters plainly acknowledging as much pop on LinkedIn from time to time. "Design muscles can be trained", they say. Or something to that tune. Anyway, by the time product owners and such start having trouble because the learning curve is way too steep to meet scrum sprint deadlines or whatever, they are stuck with a room of wannabe influencers with nigh-untrainable "design muscles" whose contracts they are still bound to honour. And more often than not, the people who, you know, actually understand about design and development, are not the ones who have the final say in who gets hired and who gets sacked.

And of course, even the seniorest UX/UI designer that ever UX/UI designed isn't safe from having to change everything overnight on a higher-up's whim for no reason whatsoever. No amount of user research and testing, thorough as it may be, is a good match for the flakiness of the C-suite, or even worse, their not-so-user-centred motivations.

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There are certain jobs that, if done well, people question why you are needed. If done poorly, people question why you are needed. I'm guessing web design is one of those things.
Basically everything design that is not art, illustration, or advertising-oriented is like that. No one rides the NYC subway and thinks of Massimo Vignelli.
 
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There are certain jobs that, if done well, people question why you are needed. If done poorly, people question why you are needed. I'm guessing web design is one of those things..
My dad was a maintenance man for a company. He kept all the equipment in working order and fixed anything that broke. Someone bought the company and was looking to make cut backs. The new boss made my dad redundant because nothing ever broke down. Why pay a maintenance guy if nothing breaks down? They learned very quickly that nothing broke down because it was all being proactively maintained. Shit started breaking down a couple of months after they fired him. They were too proud to re hire him again so they just paid contractors to come in and fix things for significantly more than it would cost to pay the wage of a maintenance guy. They ended up going bankrupt a couple years later.

Higher ups are always incredibly short sighted. If you just quietly work hard to keep things running smoothly they assume you do nothing. If you prevent fires no one cares but if you watch and wait for the fire to get bigger then put it out everyone thinks you're a hero
 
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Woulda been cool if and only if you could scroll the comments and the video individually.
I also got this redesign a few days ago before it reverted back to normal and they couldn't even do that right.
 
Just use FreeTube. It's an open-source desktop version of YouTube which uses local user profiles instead of a Google account and has sponsor/adblocking built in. Someone on the Farms introduced me to it several months ago and I've never looked back. The YouTube site has gotten so much worse since then. I would honestly call it downright unusable if you're on Firefox and use an adblocker.
Wife's been bitching about youtube for the past month. I just stuck Freetube on her laptop and she's shut up and is perfectly happy, she doesn't even have to learn anything new.

Saved me a headache today, thanks. Wish I'd know about it earlier.
 
This and it's a job position that doesn't require any actual skill to do. Every person that made a Geocities page or a website in the mid-to-late 2000s is a web designer. Literal children can do these people's job better than them.

Also, Indians.
I wouldn't say it doesn't take any skill, JS and React are pretty robust these days and there is a lot to learn, but I would say the skill level for web development is lower than that of other SWE jobs. That being said web development is sort of the most forward facing and publicly pushed type of developer job, so the market is oversaturated.
 
Why can't every website be like Craigslist?
Because Craigslist, unlike YouTube, is not filled to the brim with scripts upon scripts. Craigslist, up to a point, follows a very basic HTML code
HTML:
<HTML>
    <Head>
        <Title>Website Title</Title>
    </Head>
    <Body>
        Literally where everything goes
    </Body>
</HTML>
The majority of the spaghetti is divider tags, style tags, and iframe tags that make up the layout you see on the front page and when you're searching for something.

YouTube, on the other hand, has like 15 bajillion different tags, scripts, and other shit that if you were to go through the actual code in inspect element, you would never find a light at the end of the tunnel.
HTML:
<HTML>
    <script></script>
    <div>
    </div>
    <head>
        fuck-ton of scripts and dividers and class tags
    </head>
    <body>
        forget it, you're looking at the belly of the beast
    </body>
</HTML>

To put it another way, if you have uMatrix installed on your browser, you can tell which site has the cleaner code by seeing how you're being tracked.
 
CSS.

Everything beyond HTML 4.1 is just Flash-tier garbage, and "devs" roll around in it like pigs in shit.
 
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