Why are Zoomers addicted to "lore"?

[The Connected Nose]

Good question! I don't get it either. Lore can be fun in certain stories or contexts. But not everything needs lore. Especially not "deepest lore." I've read that some zoomers think it's cool. It can be, but not all the time. For example, why do we need lore about why Tom hates Jerry? Or why Bugs Bunny can talk? Or why Mario can smash brick blocks with his bare hands? They're going overboard with the whole lore concept.

A good application of lore, IMO, was the 2016 Doom. It was sprinkled throughout the game in such a way that it added fun and interesting context to the exquisitely crafted carnage. But it wasn't at all required to enjoy the game. If you wanted to just go around tearing hellspawn limb from limb, that way was no less entertaining.

Then Doom Eternal came along, and they decided to lore-dump at every possible opportunity. And when that wasn't enough, The Old Gods came along to do even MORE lore-dumping.

And after turning Doom from a "one guy too angry to die vs the hordes of the underworld" affair into "medieval space marines and techno-magic aliens", they bring out the M. Knight Shyamalamadingdong "twist" of "ACKSHYUALLY it was the "devil" who created the universe and everyone turned on him. Hahah, take that!"

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Honestly man, I like long videos because I can put them on in the background and do my class work. I don't need to be super invested so it doesn't really distract me like a TV show would, dead silence usually makes time crawl by because then it's just boring textbooks, and I just tend to really fuck around looking for the perfect music playlist. Video essays and some audiobooks strike a good middle ground, at least for me. Interview shows like SWU are usually what I gravitate towards overall.
As for the "benadryl lore", I've seen a video like that before that was about the insane community around the drug, which is interesting. We have a thread on those drug communities somewhere around here, those guys are weird. I unfortunately have a good deal of experience with DPH, and while it's absolutely horrible shit it's such a crazy drug to read trip reports on. Also, videos about drugs get loads of clicks.

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

I don’t get hate towards lore videos in this thread, lore videos have changed my life and expanded by wisdom beyond the normie comprehension.

Because it just IS ok?

 

[Lemmingwiser]

zoomers are the first who have a chance to become loremasters online, because the internet is finally old enough to have deep lore.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

Off-topic but Null covered a "lore" video of a Vtuber who made videos about Lolcows. It was some of the most painfully autistic crap I have ever seen. There's no way Zoomers are actually into this stuff, right?

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Lorefaggotry predates Game of Thrones, the Marvel resurgence, and wokism. You could blame the internet but even that is too modern, dragons had been buttfucking humans in Pern five years before TCP/IP was designed.

My point was not that Game of Thrones or Marvel movies started it, but that it started it for a large, mainstream audience

It's like they don't have time to experience these things themselves, they'd rather put it on in the background and listen to the cliffnotes version while they do something else.

And it is quite sad because they will spend hours watching absolutely retarded shit on TikTok and reading top tier retarded shit on Twitter. The life of a zoomer is truly joyless...

 

[frozen_runner]

A good application of lore, IMO, was the 2016 Doom. It was sprinkled throughout the game in such a way that it added fun and interesting context to the exquisitely crafted carnage. But it wasn't at all required to enjoy the game. If you wanted to just go around tearing hellspawn limb from limb, that way was no less entertaining.

Then Doom Eternal came along, and they decided to lore-dump at every possible opportunity. And when that wasn't enough, The Old Gods came along to do even MORE lore-dumping.

And after turning Doom from a "one guy too angry to die vs the hordes of the underworld" affair into "medieval space marines and techno-magic aliens", they bring out the M. Knight Shyamalamadingdong "twist" of "ACKSHYUALLY it was the "devil" who created the universe and everyone turned on him. Hahah, take that!"

Thank you. I hate all of the explanations of the events of Doom 2016 beyond the original game. They literally shouldn't have bothered. Just let him be superhuman because he spent so much time in Hell and it rubbed off on him or whatever.

Deep diving into carefully crafted fictional worlds, I understand that. But at a certain point you've completely destroyed the thing you're dissecting, and because of that it no longer has any power.

Silent Hill fans are some of the worst about this. They have an autistic knowledge of every single detail about the characters and "rules" of the game universe... but they have no idea why the games are great and effective. Watching lorefags bend over backwards to explain why ackshually Pyramid Head can be in games after SH2 is just pathetic. "He's" a prop from the second game, and you're all just Fans™ who clap because you recognize something from a game you like. And you don't even know why you like it!

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Honestly man, I like long videos because I can put them on in the background and do my class work. I don't need to be super invested so it doesn't really distract me like a TV show would, dead silence usually makes time crawl by because then it's just boring textbooks, and I just tend to really fuck around looking for the perfect music playlist. Video essays and some audiobooks strike a good middle ground, at least for me. Interview shows like SWU are usually what I gravitate towards overall.
As for the "benadryl lore", I've seen a video like that before that was about the insane community around the drug, which is interesting. We have a thread on those drug communities somewhere around here, those guys are weird. I unfortunately have a good deal of experience with DPH, and while it's absolutely horrible shit it's such a crazy drug to read trip reports on. Also, videos about drugs get loads of clicks.

Same. Podcasts, audio books and YouTube essay ( stuff like turkey tom) in the background. It's usually low density information so you can tune out and still have a general idea of what's being said.

Love history but honestly don't know what to watch. Everything has a bias or too dry to be enjoyable to listen to. However stuff like Elder Scroll lore all comes from one definite source so little room is left for a speaker to subtlety insert their agenda. Not to mention its pretty awesome in the fantastical elements. I just don't have time to play the games and read a in game book like I could when I was younger.

I listened to wendigoon five night at Freddy lore video. It was incomprehensible. Not playing the game could be part of the answer but a summarization should be able to give you a surface level understanding without having been there. This shit was just all over the place.

 

[IamnottheNSA]

Hidden and lost Chris Chan content

We're never getting the black tape, aren't we?

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

"ACKSHYUALLY it was the "devil" who created the universe and everyone turned on him. Hahah, take that!"

This is basically just Gnosticism, aka the original group who were the "I'm so enlightened unlike you peasants" mongoloids.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

What is lore? Is lore a new drug or something?

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I blame Tolkien. Look how the sci-fi, fantasy and weird fiction greats were able to paint* universes with (apparently) just a few strokes of the pen. Writing engaging prose is hard. Making retarded shit up (consoomers do not demand internal consistency and plausibility from "lore") is easy.

There was some time back when I was working on worldbuilding for a setting and I had a drive to try to make every "faction" in it interesting with a unique ideology, interesting geography, interesting culture, all of that. In the end it got too loaded down, too messy.

Later on, particularly as I started reading a ton of novels, I came to realize just how little information most good settings good, and how much of it focuses on mundane things as opposed to history or fine details of how things function. The Yiddish Policeman's Union, for example, has lots of detail (woven naturally into the writing) about Filipino-Yiddish cuisine and Tlingit slang and so on and so forth, but it only makes vague allusions to world history outside of its very intimate setting. Basically you choose to hide most of your setting from the reader, and it's fine, probably even better, for you to have questions you don't even know the answer to.

The characters and their human drama being good is much more important than the worldbuilding.

 

[HorridHenry]

I think youtube has just made people be unapologetic about being autistic. I will admit its kind of fun to read game of thrones and wonder whose doing all the murders at Winterfell and who killed Little Walder (it was big Walder).

Jew Jew Abrams slaps a Dharma initiative logo from Lost into his cloverfield movie and everyone cums themselves and connects the dots to create layers of depth that don't exist.

I think a lot of it comes from living in a society where we are so saturated in media and fandoms you want to believe there is more to capeshit than there really is.

Similar to this is dark souls bullshit where you find someone's cock ring and "the deep lore" is they were kinkshamed by some fat zombie lady with 6 arms and threw it away. Its design to make you feel smart for noticing retarded details.

The only lore i care about comes from the Sektur.

 

[BirdUp]

writers are influenced by novels that ramble to look smart and paid-per-word authors like dickens
more people should learn how to skip irrelevant details and avoid turning one-sentence transitions into entire scenes

 

[DeadwastePrime]

I put some random youtube video about Benadryl addiction and it gave me fucking lore about "dark people" and "hat man", can't zoomers even overdose on petty drugs without creating lore around it like It's Five Nights at Freddy's?

>benadryl addiction lore

 

[Return of the Freaker]

I fucking love when zoomers or youtube video essayists say I have no "media literacy" because I can't see how totally secretly gay or racist the very clearly non-gay and non-racist characters in pop culture media are!

For fucking real whenever I see shit like someone trying to frame shit like a reference to Gary Coleman in stuff that came out back when he was alive as "racist" it completely baffles me. Gary coleman is an extremely well known child actor with an afro due to the fact he infamously played a child well into adulthood, it would be extremely easy to find info on him with a quick search of any kind. Yet somehow, these kinds of people that do this are not only unwilling to even look into Gary Coleman, but also deny the reference when the info is literally shoved in their faces because it's not enough of a "source".
It's not just zoomers who do this shit either the whole behavior here seems to be a specific kind of politics "fact checking" brainrot.

Seriously? I watched the show in its original run. I think I know more about Gary Coleman than some retarded zoomer.

I hate lorefags.

I'm sorry, but am I understanding that not only do Zoomers not know who Gary Coleman is and are too lazy to do a google search, they also think he's not real and that referencing him is somehow racist?

 

[The Lawgiver]

I'm sorry, but am I understanding that not only do Zoomers not know who Gary Coleman is and are too lazy to do a google search, they also think he's not real and that referencing him is somehow racist?

It was a loose example but I actually have had like a few arguments the last few years with random people who called a gary coleman reference that doesnt outright say "gary coleman"racist. Some were zoomers but some were also people that wouldknow gary coleman clearly feigning lack of knowledge to claim shit is racist or comingup with massive big brain words type scribes as to why I'm "wrong" and not "media literate" enough to understand.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

It was a loose example but I actually have had like a few arguments the last few years with random people who called a gary coleman reference that doesnt outright say "gary coleman"racist. Some were zoomers but some were also people that wouldknow gary coleman clearly feigning lack of knowledge to claim shit is racist or comingup with massive big brain words type scribes as to why I'm "wrong" and not "media literate" enough to understand.

Ah I'm guessing theyre bitching about "whatchu talkin bout willis?"

 

[The Lawgiver]

Ah I'm guessing theyre bitching about "whatchu talkin bout willis?"

that and just characters blatantly basedon Gary coleman that show up from time to time in a lot of 2000s era media.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Everybody just focuses on the holocaust and Hitler, but nobody talks about the cannibalism or the shit where people just got stationed in foreign jungles and forests and never got contacted when the war was over, so they just camped out there for fucking ever thinking they were gonna get bombed any second.

Like those Japs that were discovered living on remote Pacific islands in the 70s and thought the war was still going on?