Why are Zoomers addicted to "lore"?

[ToroidalBoat]

Marvel, Marvel adjacent and Marvel wanna be

Seems the "lore" of American superhero comics are clusterbombs.

Also the "lore" of Star Wars and Star Trek are real mess after J. J. Abrams messed with both.

 

[Tablet County]

can't zoomers even overdose on petty drugs without creating lore around it like It's Five Nights at Freddy's?

The machine elves would like to know your location.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Seems the "lore" of American superhero comics are clusterbombs.

Also the "lore" of Star Wars and Star Trek are real mess after J. J. Abrams messed with both.

The lore of american superheroes was always very esoteric and the MCU handholded normies to hell and back, it's hilarious to watch them in despair as all their fake nerd cred crumbles while being subject to the same sort of antics comic book readers had been experiencing for decades.

the 'lore' of Star Wars was somewhat tenuous under George Lucas, because George had a happy-go-lucky approach with writers where they could do as much as they wanted provided that:

- They abided by certain general rules established by him, one of them being that they could not write anything set during the Clone Wars, the Late Republic Years or the Early Imperial period and, naturally following that
- They should be aware that any worldbuilding made that was dependent on these aforementioed periods and characters associated was likely to be made non-canonical.

So, precisely, most of the contradictions in the old EU had to do with differences in how the writers envisioned that gap and how it influenced their respective stories, but it never really got in the way of enjoying any of the works and they were overall fairly consistent, for all its flaws.

Disney 'Canon', in contrast, is a every-man-for-himself turf war where every writer pretty much trying to overrule and overturn each other's work with the EU (Comics, Books and Vidya) systematically getting cucked by the Movies/TV Shows warring cliques.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

People like stories but zoomies can't read and their parents never had the good graces to expose them to Brian Jacques' narrated Redwall books on tape.

I loved those books as a kid, and nearly started bawling when I found out he’d died.

 

[draggs]

Because the minds of Westoid children used to be filled with the lore of Christianity and their country and their people. Now they aren't so they have a void they try to fill

 

[PeggieBigCock]

I’m a millennial am I have hankerings for autism filled video essays on the lore of the Buttfartpoop People of Poopfartbuttistan in Shit Tosser 3 or whatever the last game I timesunk days into was

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Education was replaced with trivia.

Give the people contests they win by remembering the words to more popular songs or the names of state capitals or how much corn Iowa grew last year. Cram them full of noncombustible data, chock them so damned full of 'facts' they feel stuffed, but absolutely 'brilliant' with information. Then they'll feel they're thinking, they'll get a sense of motion without moving. And they'll be happy, because facts of that sort don't change. Don't give them any slippery stuff like philosophy or sociology to tie things up with. That way lies melancholy.​

- Fahrenheit 451

 

[Tiny Chinaman]

Because hollywoods entire business model is capitalizing on intellectual property , during their lifetime.

 

[Common Carp]

There isn't an issue with any property having "lore" in a vacuum. The issue comes when lore is needless or has zero substance. Backrooms is one of the worst examples, what was basically a short creepypasta now has whole wikis dedicated to exploring "lore" that was never there. That's the part I don't understand, not everything needs to have this level of autistic detail. And when something tries to have lore, it's often a case of there's a lot of it but none of it is really captivating or meaningful. FNAF would fall under this imo, sure there's a crapton of lore but when you boil it down it's just a ghost/murder story with Chuck E Cheese stapled onto it.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

It's a replacement for philosophy and theology.

 

[Xerxes IX]

Give the people contests they win by remembering the words to more popular songs or the names of state capitals or how much corn Iowa grew last year. Cram them full of noncombustible data, chock them so damned full of 'facts' they feel stuffed, but absolutely 'brilliant' with information. Then they'll feel they're thinking, they'll get a sense of motion without moving. And they'll be happy, because facts of that sort don't change. Don't give them any slippery stuff like philosophy or sociology to tie things up with. That way lies melancholy.​

- Fahrenheit 451

It's depressing how accurate that book is.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

I'm sorry, but am I understanding that not only do Zoomers not know who Gary Coleman is and are too lazy to do a google search, they also think he's not real and that referencing him is somehow racist?

I only know about him because of Postal 2. He's just some black midget in a funny violent game to me.

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

Because most zoomers are immoral atheistic soyjacks with a large void to fill.

Here’s how it started. Prior to 2010s, most media that have deep lore are those multi-billion dollar franchises that span decades. Even back then, people didn‘t try to delve this deep and try to make a religion out of this film franchise they were so obessed with. Also, this was when leaving religion was seen as ”stunning and brave”, because there were countless Christians “scholars” who don’t know shit about their own beliefs (Kent Hovind comes to mind).

However, this specific ideology of Atheism (which is “evidence needed to support the ideas”) required a often uncensored and unrestricted access to the worldwide web, which mean that by 2017, with big tech and western governments trying to mimic (atheist) Communist China, this requirement cannot be fulfilled. So, obviously there were 2 choices for atheist. 1. Continue being dependent on big tech for unbiased information(hence why so many are woke). 2. Revert back their old ways.

There are many who pick #2, but instead of reverting back to Christianity or Islam, they make it a habit to make their franchises a religion to worship and seek moral guidance from. You started seeing Marvel become a religion with MCU as it‘s scripture by 2018. I remember all these people trying to shove MCU down my throat in the mid-late 2010 just like those street preachers that would preach at rock and metal concerts I’ve attended in the 1990s-2000s. I remember when Endgame was released in 2019, it was virtually everywhere as if it was a Juche cult.

Just as I thought this shit would die off after that, in 2020, I started seeing a bunch of manchildren soyboys start trying to make up theories and lore about cartoons that are literally meant for little kids and is pushed on the Youtube recommendations. Yes, literally Millennials, who often have zero religion trying to make mindless cartoons deeper than what it actually is. And all these smelly zoomers all indulge in it.

Fast foward to today, modern media is shit, western countries are collapsing to chaos and now we have zoomers trying to add lore not just to childrens media but literally the most mundane things I didn’t expect Zoomers to try make it deep. It just makes me scared about the future we are heading if Zoomers continue make lore out of thin air for the most mundane things ever concieved.

 

[Slap47]

It's a replacement for philosophy and theology.

Honestly, remembering lolcow lore is more interesting, helpful and insightful then memorizing the Confucian Classics, Quran or Bible.

 

[Sperghetti]

I blame fanfiction and the "FOMOs" that come from fandoms.

There isn't an issue with any property having "lore" in a vacuum. The issue comes when lore is needless or has zero substance. Backrooms is one of the worst examples, what was basically a short creepypasta now has whole wikis dedicated to exploring "lore" that was never there. That's the part I don't understand, not everything needs to have this level of autistic detail. And when something tries to have lore, it's often a case of there's a lot of it but none of it is really captivating or meaningful. FNAF would fall under this imo, sure there's a crapton of lore but when you boil it down it's just a ghost/murder story with Chuck E Cheese stapled onto it.

Yeah, it's like trying to act like every single little thing has (or needs to have) a full-fledged, Star Wars-tier fandom behind it complete with speculation, controversy, and fan theories.

I don't think it's purely the fault of things like comic books or LOTR, because those things have had huge convoluted back stories and autistic fan debates for ages. I think it's more the current media landscape as a whole, where the "franchise" format is the norm and every story is an endless sea of prequels, sequels, and spin-offs. The idea of a story being a single, limited, self-contained thing is kind of foreign to them.

 

[AWizard]

Some absolute dogshit takes in this thread. But the simplest explanations in the thread are the best: zoomers are morons. Their language and attention-spans are abbreviated, their imaginations are blunted and their noses easily lead.

To be honest, I don't even think many of them like lore (at least in the world building sense), it's just of one those many things that autistic millennial (and older) nerds did that got absorbed into the monoculture when geek culture as a whole got absorbed.

Also I hope MatPat dies in a car crash.

 

[Beautiful Border]

I reject the premise of the question entirely that "zoomer" is a useful label that actually describes anything. People are people. Have you ever seen graffiti preserved at Pompeii from the first century AD? No different from the kind of things you see written in public places today. The idea that there are "generations" that think and act in identifiable ways and are cohesive enough to be placed into recognizable categories ("boomers", "millennials", "zoomers", etc.) is cobblers.

All it leads to is essentializing people based on the age they currently are and then claiming that the characteristics of being that age are somehow inherent to their person in general. "Zoomers" are just people who are currently in their teens and twenties doing what people who are in their teens and twenties do. Trying to ascribe attributes based on that is trying to build a house on a foundation of clay. Just look at the range of wildly inconsistent conclusions people have come to in their responses in this thread.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I think that "lore addiction" could be because autism is on the rise. Overthinking is a symptom of 'tism (and comorbid OCD).

The idea of a story being a single, limited, self-contained thing is kind of foreign to them.

That's how it used to be all the time with fiction which was made before Current Year. Or at least long before Current Year.

Also I like to do the "reverse of lore-making", like thinking (almost) every Legend of Zelda game is a self-contained story.

 

[AWizard]

The idea that there are "generations" that think and act in identifiable ways and are cohesive enough to be placed into recognizable categories ("boomers", "millennials", "zoomers", etc.) is cobblers.

I think you're cobblers. These labels weren't pulled out of thin air. It's determined by a mix of factors historical events, attitudes, prevailing pop culture at the time, etc.

Want to know what one of the key defining features of Gen Zoomer? Being born into a world where you're always connected to the information super highway from anywhere (not to mention that the internet is way more controlled and curated now).

 

[glass_houses]

I used to love meta back in my fandom days. These days I'm more into scientific studies, but honestly, sometimes this stuff is just kinda fun. I like picking things to tiny pieces. Partially because I'm an autist, but I've always just enjoyed tipping over rocks and seeing what's under them.

That said, the reason I'm much more into the sciences now is because context is dead and and if I read one more essay complaining about insert-ism-or-phobia-here instead of actually analysing or explaining the material, I'm going to burn down a fucking university.