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Why Arguments Against Abolition Inevitably Fail

For centuries, people have been unwilling to grasp the concept that only by undoing the foundation can we build a new future


This article is part of Abolition for the People, a series brought to you by a partnership between Kaepernick Publishing and LEVEL, a Medium publication for and about the lives of Black and Brown men. The series, which comprises 30 essays and conversations over four weeks, points to the crucial conclusion that policing and prisons are not solutions for the issues and people the state deems social problems — and calls for a future that puts justice and the needs of the community first.

Movements against racist police violence and against entrenched racial injustices in this country’s jails and prisons can claim a history that is almost as old as the institutions themselves. Precisely because opposition and protests calling for reform have played such a central role in shaping structures of policing and punishment, the notion of reform has superseded other paths toward change. Ironically, many efforts to change these repressive structures — to reform them — have instead provided the glue that has guaranteed their continued presence and acceptance.

Both policing and punishment are firmly rooted in racism — attempts to control indigenous, Black, and Latino populations following colonization and slavery as well as Asian populations after the Chinese Exclusion Act and the World War II incarceration of Japanese Americans. Attempting to undo the harm of policing and prisons without attending to these immense embodiments of systemic racism is doomed to failure. The 20th-century militarization of the police has been further intensified by Islamophobia. More generally, the evolution and expansion of the police and the prisons are constant reminders that capitalism has always fundamentally relied on racism to sustain itself.

The insight that racism is essentially systemic and structural rather than individual and attitudinal — one repeatedly asserted by health care advocates and anti-police and anti-prison activists over many decades — finally entered mainstream discourse in 2020 under the pressure of Covid-19 and its disproportionate impact on Black and Brown communities. Its most popular expression in the slogan “Defund the Police” was disseminated during the mass mobilizations protesting the police lynching of George Floyd. For those who recognize the deeply conservative repercussions of equating “reform” with change, the call to defund the police manifested an abolitionist impulse to eschew the usual calls for punishing individual police officers and instituting some form of civilian overview of the department. Instead of habitual and perfunctory calls for “reform,” organizers began to think more deeply about pathways toward more radical change — in other words, change that would begin to respond to some of the root causes of why poor communities, and especially communities of color, are particularly vulnerable to the criminal legal system.

But for others, it had a jarring effect, conjuring up images of chaotic, crime-ridden (Black and Brown) communities, with no force in place to guarantee order. Some people, who live in so-called high crime neighborhoods, where they are preyed upon not only by the police but also by armed individuals and groups from their own communities and for whom the demand to defund the police was their first introduction to abolitionist ideas, were understandably bewildered. How would they survive at the mercy of malevolent groups who hardly care about the trajectory of stray bullets that have taken the lives of children and other bystanders? Their fears are real and not to be dismissed. But this is absolutely the moment to engage in the kind of educational activism that might help to encourage all of us, especially those of us who live in the most vulnerable neighborhoods, to purposefully rethink the meaning of safety and security.

This is the author:
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Angela Davis

This woman is known for supporting Jonestown
 
The slippery slope is not a fallacy, and I have learned that liberals' long-term goals are always whatever they deny it is. See also:
  • "Nobody wants to take your guns"
  • "nobody wants to normalize pedophilia"
  • "Nobody wants to force churches to pay for abortions"
  • "Obama is not a socialist"
As for this article, it's just more "you don't get it because you don't have muh lived experience/you have white privilege/not my job to educate you" ad hominem attacks that Marxists invariably use.
 
Just let us rape, rob, murder and do drugs in peace whitey, the concept of civilized society is racist 'n shieet.

The slippery slope is not a fallacy, and I have learned that liberals' long-term goals are always whatever they deny it is. See also:
  • "Nobody wants to take your guns"
  • "nobody wants to normalize pedophilia"
  • "Nobody wants to force churches to pay for abortions"
  • "Obama is not a socialist"
As for this article, it's just more "you don't get it because you don't have muh lived experience/you have white privilege/not my job to educate you" ad hominem attacks that Marxists invariably use.

The slippery slope is very real and they're not gonna be happy until they genocide white people, that's what this will all lead to sooner or later.
 
The slippery slope is not a fallacy, and I have learned that liberals' long-term goals are always whatever they deny it is. See also:
  • "Nobody wants to take your guns"
  • "nobody wants to normalize pedophilia"
  • "Nobody wants to force churches to pay for abortions"
  • "Obama is not a socialist"
As for this article, it's just more "you don't get it because you don't have muh lived experience/you have white privilege/not my job to educate you" ad hominem attacks that Marxists invariably use.

You forgot:
  • No woman would use abortion as contraception.
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Yeah he had no other motives than justice....for...uh...black people.

Where is he these days? I cannot help but notice he is not out there trying to stop black on black violence or looting or rioting or the glorification of criminals...
 
Go back and watch commercials on Youtube from the 1990s like I like to do and you'll see how pretty diverse things were even back then.

Once upon a time it was accepted that America was a diverse country and everyone had just moved on, so long as you could act like a fucking human being and obey the law, ie the bare fucking minimum of what society asks of you, chances are you'd be fine.

But that wasn't good enough for extremists like the author of this article and now it's looking like a Turner Diaries style race war might have to be fought to try to preserve civilization and law and order, it didn't have to be this way and it sucks that we're at this point, but don't fool yourself for one moment that policies like "abolishing prisons" are going to lead to anything but the hills running red with white blood, they know what they're doing, they know what their end game is.

Hopefully of course cooler heads will prevail.
 
Go back and watch commercials on Youtube from the 1990s like I like to do and you'll see how pretty diverse things were even back then.

Once upon a time it was accepted that America was a diverse country and everyone had just moved on, so long as you could act like a fucking human being and obey the law, ie the bare fucking minimum of what society asks of you, chances are you'd be fine.

But that wasn't good enough for extremists like the author of this article and now it's looking like a Turner Diaries style race war might have to be fought to try to preserve civilization and law and order, it didn't have to be this way and it sucks that we're at this point, but don't fool yourself for one moment that policies like "abolishing prisons" are going to lead to anything but the hills running red with white blood, they know what they're doing, they know what their end game is.

Hopefully of course cooler heads will prevail.
I used to think white genocide was a joke. Not any more
 
Go back and watch commercials on Youtube from the 1990s like I like to do and you'll see how pretty diverse things were even back then.

Once upon a time it was accepted that America was a diverse country and everyone had just moved on, so long as you could act like a fucking human being and obey the law, ie the bare fucking minimum of what society asks of you, chances are you'd be fine.

But that wasn't good enough for extremists like the author of this article and now it's looking like a Turner Diaries style race war might have to be fought to try to preserve civilization and law and order, it didn't have to be this way and it sucks that we're at this point, but don't fool yourself for one moment that policies like "abolishing prisons" are going to lead to anything but the hills running red with white blood, they know what they're doing, they know what their end game is.

Hopefully of course cooler heads will prevail.
Tbh, king nigger was the worst thing to happen to race relations in the states. Not even really him in particular, but the fact that we had a black president at all. A black president should have stayed a "maybe some day" proposition. No matter how competent and unifying said black president would be, he would always be "the first black president:" a symbol of American progress from a time of prejudice to more modern thinking.
Well... we had our black president. He wasn't that great, but he certainly could have been worse. And the racial divide has become worse. He fanned the flames a bit, for sure. But it would be naive to think a less divisive black president wouldn't have led us to this point. Now that a black president isn't just a pipe dream, we see very clearly that it also isn't the magic fix for the concerns of American blacks that many had imagined it to be.
Now, they seek other solutions to their problems.
 
Japs - Got nuked, built back to introduce anime titties
Korea - Had war, built back to bring in K-POP
Italy - Assfucked by WW2, bought Pasta and Pizza to the masses
Niggers - Taken to a country, where after some struggles, were given the best country in the world to use as their playground.
Burned it down.
Africa - Starving. Still Starving.
 
Japs - Got nuked, built back to introduce anime titties
Korea - Had war, built back to bring in K-POP
Italy - Assfucked by WW2, bought Pasta and Pizza to the masses
Niggers - Taken to a country, where after some struggles, were given the best country in the world to use as their playground.
Burned it down.
Africa - Starving. Still Starving.
Jews - 6 gorillion people died. Got revenge by taking over Hollywood, banking, and America’s political system.
 
I used to think white genocide was a joke. Not any more

Of course it's not a joke, it's the end game of left wing extremists.

It's already proven the slippery slope is real, why would it ever stop if it remains unimpeded? They've already mainstreamed the idea through "white privilege" that a white person's very existence is an act of racism, it's not a big leap from that idea to saying that the only way to end racism is to annihilate it's source, ie kill every last white person.

They would never stop, they would never be happy, they would never be content, they would never say "ok, racism is solved now" they would keep pushing it and pushing it bit by bit until white genocide was the only thing left.

And the irony is they would still say "well, at least we're not Nazis" as they stuff white people into gas chambers.

Any form of unimpeded extremism is going to eventually lead to mass murder.

Tbh, king nigger was the worst thing to happen to race relations in the states. Not even really him in particular, but the fact that we had a black president at all. A black president should have stayed a "maybe some day" proposition. No matter how competent and unifying said black president would be, he would always be "the first black president:" a symbol of American progress from a time of prejudice to more modern thinking.
Well... we had our black president. He wasn't that great, but he certainly could have been worse. And the racial divide has become worse. He fanned the flames a bit, for sure. But it would be naive to think a less divisive black president wouldn't have led us to this point. Now that a black president isn't just a pipe dream, we see very clearly that it also isn't the magic fix for the concerns of American blacks that many had imagined it to be.
Now, they seek other solutions to their problems.

Indeed, the election of a black President is what did race relations in, as paradoxical as that is, it should have forever remained a "maybe someday" proposition but once it became a reality a certain Genie was let out of the bottle.

As you point out it's not even all directly Obama's fault, it was just simply having a black President period, it didn't matter so much the individual as much as the idea, that just changed something about American society and threw our equilibrium off and we've been spiralling into chaos ever since.

I really wish it could have at least not have happened for a few more decades, a few more decades of America as it was in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, it would have been nice, but now.....

I hate it though because it proves what absolute folly human endeavor is, it doesn't make any sense on the surface that electing a black President would somehow send American race relations backwards, but it's what happened, because of a million different little factors that would have been impossible to predict.

Like Icarus flying too close to the sun, no matter what humanity does, we're going to wind up getting fucked in the ass by unforeseen consequences.
 
I used to think white genocide was a joke. Not any more
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They have cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal speaking. They have actual black supremacists involved. They have one of the creators of the intrinsically anti-white critical race theory on there. White genocide? Pshhaw! Hush that mess, nazi!

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Here's a novel take: don't want to go to prison? Stop committing crimes. Amazing how that can work. Black people, unlike whites, are not being targeted by the criminal justice system because of their race, they are targeted because they're a violent, criminal shitheads.

Blacks will always be slaves, the only thing that changes is their masters. How their movements can be so consistently retarded and self-destructive is incredible. Too bad the media doesn't report honestly on South Africa or maybe blacks in America could learn what their future looks like if they continue down this path.
 
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Of course it's not a joke, it's the end game of left wing extremists.

It's already proven the slippery slope is real, why would it ever stop if it remains unimpeded? They've already mainstreamed the idea through "white privilege" that a white person's very existence is an act of racism, it's not a big leap from that idea to saying that the only way to end racism is to annihilate it's source, ie kill every last white person.

They would never stop, they would never be happy, they would never be content, they would never say "ok, racism is solved now" they would keep pushing it and pushing it bit by bit until white genocide was the only thing left.

And the irony is they would still say "well, at least we're not Nazis" as they stuff white people into gas chambers.

Any form of unimpeded extremism is going to eventually lead to mass murder.



Indeed, the election of a black President is what did race relations in, as paradoxical as that is, it should have forever remained a "maybe someday" proposition but once it became a reality a certain Genie was let out of the bottle.

As you point out it's not even all directly Obama's fault, it was just simply having a black President period, it didn't matter so much the individual as much as the idea, that just changed something about American society and threw our equilibrium off and we've been spiralling into chaos ever since.

I really wish it could have at least not have happened for a few more decades, a few more decades of America as it was in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, it would have been nice, but now.....

I hate it though because it proves what absolute folly human endeavor is, it doesn't make any sense on the surface that electing a black President would somehow send American race relations backwards, but it's what happened, because of a million different little factors that would have been impossible to predict.

Like Icarus flying too close to the sun, no matter what humanity does, we're going to wind up getting fucked in the ass by unforeseen consequences.
I hate people in general and rather pissed there were two near misses this year. Misses meaning meteor of death. Only reason im pro white is the same reason a cow is anti slaughter house. I have no love for my fellow white person. Im just stuck in the same boat as they are and that is as far my concern for them goes.
 
really wish it could have at least not have happened for a few more decades, a few more decades of America as it was in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, it would have been nice, but now.....
Perhaps this is optimistic of me, but maybe, just maybe, that few extra decades would have been all it took for race relations to improve enough for a black president to not be such a disaster.
Sorry for the leftist terminology, but the question of whether America was "ready for a black president" was thrown around in 2008 like no tomorrow. Maybe that was a legitimate question. And maybe the answer was no. Just not for the reasons that were implied.

Fuck, now I'm kinda afraid of a woman president, and what might happen if we aren't ready for it..
 
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They have cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal speaking. They have actual black supremacists involved. They have one of the creators of the intrinsically anti-white critical race theory on there. White genocide? Pshhaw! Hush that mess, nazi!

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Here's a novel take: don't want to go to prison? Stop committing crimes. Amazing how that can work. Black people, unlike whites, are not being targeted by the criminal justice system because of their race, they are targeted because they're a violent, criminal shitheads.

Blacks will always be slaves, the only thing that changes is their masters. How their movements can be so consistently retarded and self-destructive is incredible. Too bad the media doesn't report honestly on South Africa or maybe blacks in America could learn what their future looks like if they continue down this path.

Certainly even African tribal societies have their own form of law and order, right? So why's it so hard to grasp the concept "don't commit a crime if you don't want to face the consequences" for blacks in America?

I hate people in general and rather pissed there were two near misses this year. Misses meaning meteor of death. Only reason im pro white is the same reason a cow is anti slaughter house. I have no love for my fellow white person. Im just stuck in the same boat as they are and that is as far my concern for them goes.

Nah, I love humanity, God saw fit to give us redemption despite our flaws and that counts for something.

This is a God sized problem at the end of the day and one day, maybe even soon given how things are going, God will return to the Earth to sort our mess out.

Perhaps this is optimistic of me, but maybe, just maybe, that few extra decades would have been all it took for race relations to improve enough for a black president to not be such a disaster.
Sorry for the leftist terminology, but the question of whether America was "ready for a black president" was thrown around in 2008 like no tomorrow. Maybe that was a legitimate question. And maybe the answer was no. Just not for the reasons that were implied.

Fuck, now I'm kinda afraid of a woman president, and what might happen if we aren't ready for it..

Well one thing that went wrong is the election of our first black President just so happened to coincide with the rise of social media, which gave power to extremists like never before, which society was ill equipped to be able to deal with, had a black President happened sooner or later it's possible it wouldn't have been such a disaster, who knows.

Like I said there's always going to be a million little factors that go into things, the world is an incredibly complicated place, our modern situation doesn't even entirely stem from the election of Obama but also everything from 9/11 to the Iraq war to the Great Recession, change any one of those factors and like the butterfly effect who knows what might have been different.

The Great Recession for example is I think a big reason for why there was such a revival in Marxism, which also happened to coincide with Obama's election and the rise of social media.

In other words it's almost like America got hit with the perfect storm to make us spiral into chaos.
 
Japs - Got nuked, built back to introduce anime titties
Korea - Had war, built back to bring in K-POP
Italy - Assfucked by WW2, bought Pasta and Pizza to the masses
You list these things off like they're good things

Niggers - Taken to a country, where after some struggles,
This is like describing 9/11 as some people doing something...
 
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