Why do we put so much stock into loli/underaged characters as a direct link to being a pedo?

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

I think I remember OP's name and pfp. Haven't you started a similar thread before?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I guess I woke up today and chose violence but it just doesn't make sense. And even though you won't believe me, I have never watched loli or even seen pictures of it by my own choice.

It's not that it definitely means you're a pedo. It's just that's what they do and the audience it's for. You might be a West African Billed Goose, but if you fly with Canadian geese, nobody will tell the difference. I get it, porn is a rabbit hole, but if I'm fapping to videos of animals, then chances are you're a beastie. It doesn't matter if you'd never do it irl. You walk amongst the ducks.

 

[NinthAngle]

I've seen people do the connection even with big tiddy anime girls or shortstacks. Funnily enough, I've seen online witchhunters being exposed as real life kiddy diddlers. Must be a projection of some sort..

 

[Catler]

The immediate problem in discussing this is that "loli" is too broad of a term where one person simply means a child or child-like character, while another means porn of drawn children.

If we're talking about loli porn it's because consuming such a thing means you're attracted to it. I think it's generally safe to say people only consume porn of something they're interested in and that's the disconnect between it and the other examples you gave. The others (save for adult porn) don't require some form of sexual interest to enjoy and if you have sexual interest in a child you are by definition a pedo.

If you're just talking about young characters in anime? Sure, that doesn't inherently make someone a pedo.

On another note, if someone got off sexually to violent media that would be a major, major cause for concern.

 

[Open-Source Dodonpachi]

I'm only gonna say this: if you think that a drawing made by ink and paper is CP, then you are just projecting. I don't enjoy this, but calling someone a pedo for just jerking off to weird lolicon images, makes me want to put you in jail for not even using your brain properly. Protect kids. Not drawings.

Btw, most of these ero mangakas are japanese women who are openly shotacon/lolicon and no one says shit about them. Don't enjoy the loli aesthetic? then sftu and go on instead of blaming the wrong enemy.

If you only think about CP by just watching lolis, then YOU are the problem. I can literally draw a little "girl" but actually is a maid dragon of space who is 5000 years old. You know why? because its a FUCKING FICTIONAL drawing

 

[Gog & Magog]

Retards and progressives of the past 15 years think immoral pornography will lead to enactment of immoral acts.

Take a look at troons. You really wanna argue tolerating horrific sexual habits don't lead to horrible things?

I totally understand that. I'm more talking about the definitive language often bandied about there isn't a chance that a lolicon is not a pedophile (or at the very least, not someone who would enjoy real life depictions, which is the only thing that matters)

Why would an adult, who isn't a pedophile, enjoy looking at erotica of characters clearly meant to be children?

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

people who play violent video games or watch action movies enjoy it because it triggers the pleasure centers of the brain associated with violence in a manner that hurts nobody. If you get a dopamine rush from playing Call of Duty, you must want to go do a mass shooting

I put this into any other context and it seems like crazy talk.

It always baffles me when people like you equate violence to child rape. Violence can be a good thing, child rape never is.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

I think I remember OP's name and pfp. Haven't you started a similar thread before?

I think i was in one of these loli debates, but I don't think i've started one.

 

[Safir]

But if you watch or consume loli you absolutely have to be a pedophile.

That's the definition, yes.

people who play violent video games or watch action movies enjoy it because it triggers the pleasure centers of the brain associated with violence in a manner that hurts nobody. If you get a dopamine rush from playing Call of Duty, you must want to go do a mass shooting

I don't give a fuck about muh dopamine rush or other gay psychology thing, go suck-start a cock.
Cooming to children is literally pedo pehavior, there's no intermediate simulation component. Do you coom to images of child bob and/or vagene? Pedo.
The equivalent to "violent video games or action movies" w.r.t. child rape would be "true crime about pedophiles".

Therefore:
should simulated child porn be banned? YES. No one but pedophiles has interest in it, by definition.

You could ask better questions. Ok we ban it, what's the punishment and what's the standard of proof? What if Zuck decides to kill you and puts some sexxxxy lolis on your faecesbook page and says you did it and you get lynched? What if people are forbidden from owning electronic devices unless they're always online and rootkitted up the wazoo?

Curiously, pedo defenders never ask these questions. When a Russian (well Russian national, it wasn't a Slav) troon got caught with drawn child snuff porn, the liberal freeze peach defenders cried, "it's just anime-style pictures!!" They didn't say "it wasn't """hers"""". They didn't say "ok it was his and that thing should hang by rights but we are setting a bad precedent, maybe we should let this one go and pass some laws right fucking now". They said, "this tranny who masturbates to rape and dismemberment of young boys is totally not a danger to society, oh and she's a real woman btw and should work in childcare".

 

[ticktacktoe]

people who play violent video games or watch action movies enjoy it because it triggers the pleasure centers of the brain associated with violence in a manner that hurts nobody. If you get a dopamine rush from playing Call of Duty, you must want to go do a mass shooting

I put this into any other context and it seems like crazy talk.

I would say this is apples too oranges. Like I'd say if someone were to like jerk off to gore based cartoon porn that they are probably someone who would find that stuff sexually appealing irl. The same way someone who is into "feral" furry artwork is probably into zoo stuff. Like do i think a drawing should be illegal? No. Should that person be blasted online and people should probably avoid them? Yes. The content you are SEXUALLY interested usually has some correlation to what you like irl sexually. Someone who likes gory horror movies isn't getting a boner from it, and if they are? Fucking weirdos.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

That's the definition, yes.

I don't give a fuck about muh dopamine rush or other gay psychology thing, go suck-start a cock.
Cooming to children is literally pedo pehavior, there's no intermediate simulation component. Do you coom to images of child bob and/or vagene? Pedo.
The equivalent to "violent video games or action movies" w.r.t. child rape would be "true crime about pedophiles".

Therefore:
should simulated child porn be banned? YES. No one but pedophiles has interest in it, by definition.

You could ask better questions. Ok we ban it, what's the punishment and what's the standard of proof? What if Zuck decides to kill you and puts some sexxxxy lolis on your faecesbook page and says you did it and you get lynched? What if people are forbidden from owning electronic devices unless they're always online and rootkitted up the wazoo?

Curiously, pedo defenders never ask these questions. When a Russian (well Russian national, it wasn't a Slav) troon got caught with drawn child snuff porn, the liberal freeze peach defenders cried, "it's just anime-style pictures!!" They didn't say "it wasn't """hers"""". They didn't say "ok it was his and that thing should hang by rights but we are setting a bad precedent, maybe we should let this one go and pass some laws right fucking now". They said, "this tranny who masturbates to rape and dismemberment of young boys is totally not a danger to society, oh and she's a real woman btw and should work in childcare".

I suppose the difference between you and me is that I don't believe that we should attack people if they aren't harming anyone. call me lolbertarian if you want but going after people (as in, making assertions that are life-ruining based on conjecture) is just not something I can get behind.

Take a look at troons. You really wanna argue tolerating horrific sexual habits don't lead to horrible things?

Why would an adult, who isn't a pedophile, enjoy looking at erotica of characters clearly meant to be children?

this is probably going to get me blown up but if troons arent actually doing anything to hurt us (the usual suspects deserve everything we can throw at them), then I don't think they should be "persecuted"

 

[DEAD BIRD]

If you jerk off to what looks like, acts like, and essentially depicted as a child like Kanna, who is 5,000 years old yet is treated as a child both as a dragon, and as human, and looks like a child

I mean, I don't know dude. It just makes you look like a pedophile (because 9 times out of 10, people who jerk off to this shit are pedos lmao)

 

[SenutiSolidus]

If you jerk off to what looks like, acts like, and essentially depicted as a child like Kanna, who is 5,000 years old yet is treated as a child both as a dragon, and as human, and looks like a child

I mean, I don't know dude. It just makes you look like a pedophile (because 9 times out of 10, people who jerk off to this shit are pedos lmao)

Sure, it can look that way. but the difference between connecting things that could be considered warning signs of pedophilia and you are a pedophile is where i draw the line.

 

[DEAD BIRD]

Sure, it can look that way. but the difference between connecting things that could be considered warning signs of pedophilia and you are a pedophile is where i draw the line.

If you jerk off to the depiction of a child, you're a pedophile.
Lol.

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

This is honestly why I'm ambivalent about making loli illegal.

I never said it should be illegal. While I wholeheartedly agree with the principle of outlawing loli, it’s just too dangerous of a precedent to set for governments run by people who don’t even know how mobile phones work. That doesn’t mean it has to be accepted, though. I believe labeling someone who jerks off to drawings of children in sexual situations is a subhuman pedophile and I also believe that is a reasonable assumption to make for most sane people.

I suppose the difference between you and me is that I don't believe that we should attack people if they aren't harming anyone.

“Attack people” is a very faggy way of putting it. They’re words on a screen, they can’t hurt you. If Vito or Dick or some other greasy creep gets mad that we call them pedophiles for defending drawn pictures of children being raped, it’s their fucking problem.

I like to mock people for their eccentricities with very few exceptions. It’s the entire point of this website and why I’m here. Like it or not, getting off to images of little girls being molested, DRAWN OR OTHERWISE, is very eccentric behaviour and if you believe otherwise you need to go outside and speak to people in the real world.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

I never said it should be illegal. While I wholeheartedly agree with the principle of outlawing loli, it’s just too dangerous of a precedent to set for governments run by people who don’t even know how mobile phones work. That doesn’t mean it has to be accepted, though. I believe labeling someone who jerks off to drawings of children in sexual situations is a subhuman pedophile and I also believe that is a reasonable assumption to make for most sane people.

“Attack people” is a very faggy way of putting it. They’re words on a screen, they can’t hurt you. If Vito or Dick or some other greasy creep gets mad that we call them pedophiles for defending drawn pictures of children being raped, it’s their fucking problem.

I like to mock people for their eccentricities with very few exceptions. It’s the entire point of this website and why I’m here. Like it or not, getting off to images of little girls being molested, DRAWN OR OTHERWISE, is very eccentric behaviour and if you believe otherwise you need to go outside and speak to people in the real world.

words in a thread aren't what i mean by an attack. I mean tipping the cow, going ahead and trying to get him fired by spreading the fact that he's a lolicon, etc.

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

I mean tipping the cow, going ahead and trying to get him fired by spreading the fact that he's a lolicon, etc.

Who is doing this? The thread says “Why do we put so much stock into…” but for the several years I’ve been on this site, cowtipping and life ruination has always been against the rules and heavily discouraged. If someone thinks the subject of a thread on the site is a pedophile because of their own actions, such as jerking off to loli porn, it’s the fault of the person themselves, not us for archiving it.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

Who is doing this? The thread says “Why do we put so much stock into…” but for the several years I’ve been on this site, cowtipping and life ruination has always been against the rules and heavily discouraged. If someone thinks the subject of a thread on the site is a pedophile because of their own actions, such as jerking off to loli porn, it’s the fault of the person themselves, not us for archiving it.

As long as the person whom the thread is about doesn't get hurt I have no problem with people talking about them. I'll admit, I don't go to this site very often. I visit because of free speech issues and the danger certain trannys pose to the free internet. If you guys don't try to fuck with people who don't deserve it, I apologize for making this thread.

 

[Open-Source Dodonpachi]

words in a thread aren't what i mean by an attack. I mean tipping the cow, going ahead and trying to get him fired by spreading the fact that he's a lolicon, etc.

Kinda funny how the words "racist" , "xenophobe", "sexist" and even "pedophile" are losing meaning thanks to many traumatized idiots who think it is a MUST to protect anime drawings. lol. Calling someone a pedophile for no reason and with no solid evidence should be a crime for defamation. Too many hypocrite purists.

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

As long as the person whom the thread is about doesn't get hurt I have no problem with people talking about them. I'll admit, I don't go to this site very often. I visit because of free speech issues and the danger certain trannys pose to the free internet. If you guys don't try to fuck with people who don't deserve it, I apologize for making this thread.

It’s the one of the first rules listed above almost every thread’s post window. Read through most of the big threads and you’ll see the occasional faggot getting assmad and warned for suggesting fucking with the target of the thread.

If you don’t visit the site enough to see this, fine. But that then begs the question of what you hope to achieve by making a thread where you label yourself as part of the broader community (“we”) and chastise us all for actions you aren’t even sure we commit.