Why is black art so limited in scope? - No, I’m not saying black people suck.

MT Foxtrot said:
Why, Wagner of course! Delta blues wasn't ever a thing, silly goose!

Oh, and for the "All niggers can do is rap" set, have an all black punk band before Punk was even coined...

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Punk is simple shit for retards who cannot grasp melody or even rhythm. Of course nigs would make the style based around strumming basic chords like a chimp scratches its scrotum. Eventually, punk turned into some pretentious assfucks like Jewlo Biafra acting like being homeless and making "statements" is some kind of grand art project to protest society or some shit.


 
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Senator Armstrong said:
Punk is simple shit for retards who cannot grasp melody. The hormones were jewish and it shows, of course nigs would make the style based around strumming basic chorda like a chimp scratches its scrotum.


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Yea, yea, I know, strictly Wagnerian. Your loss.

"YOU GUIZ, KIWI FARMS ISN'T SOME HAVEN FOR WHITE SUPREMACISTS! QUIT SAYIN WE'RE RACIS!"
 
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Senator Armstrong said:
Simple, most are just mentally retarded. Asians and (some) Whites are simply smarter, which is why so many Asian classical music geeks exist. All the good art from Europeans was already made, and only people of higher intelligence care about formalist or traditional modes of expression, like how Da Vinci was a polymath and studied the works of Plato or Vitruvius to make masterpieces. Niggers have no ability to appreciate fine arts, so their scope is limited to simple topics like "racism." Oversocialized and pseudointellectual whites will give Kendrick Lamar a Pulitzer Prize for mumbling to a basic rhythm about kill whitey. There are always outliers, but for the most part most of them are too stupid to be another Michaelangelo or Wagner.
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Arinze Stanley's hyper-realistic work is brilliant, though he's Nigerian, not black American.
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Senator Armstrong said:
I'm not losing shit if I openly call shit like "Smash Racism" or anything by GG Allin or Skrewdriver garbage.
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Skrewdriver? I'll give you a bit of cred for at least knowing about those obscure Hun nutsacks.

Never heard of Nausea though. Not impressed by them.
 
I had a punk phase when I was younger and quickly grew to hate it after I started feeling like a lot of them, especially Jello Biafra, glow. Dave Mustaine even is somehow "friends" with the secret service and he used to be sort of involved with punk in early Megadeth.
MT Foxtrot said:
Skrewdriver? I'll give you a bit of cred for at least knowing about those obscure Hun nutsacks.

Never heard of Nausea though. Not impressed by them.
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Senator Armstrong said:
I had a punk phase when I was younger and quickly grew to hate it after I started feeling like a lot of them, especially Jello Biafra, glow. Dave Mustaine even is somehow "friends" with the secret service and he used to be sort of involved with punk in early Megadeth.
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Jello? What makes you think he glew?
 
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MT Foxtrot said:
Jello? What makes you think he glew
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He is somehow absurdly well off even today, survived a smearing via obsenity trial and actually has the potential for social change. I just have a gut feeling that I cannot prove, he is like Alex Jones where he gets a lot of glowie funding via COINTELPRO to make actual opposition act like retards and self destruct.
 
Surviving a smear trial isn't that hard, especially pre-internet age. Judas Priest came out pretty good from it after all.

That said, I won't discount the possibility; just that it's highly unlikely.
 
NevskyProspekt said:
Not disputing that, but his personal character is irrelevant to the point of his place in the history of late 20th century developments in American music. It's like shitting on Wendy Carlos for being a troon when discussing his tremendous influence on the innovative use of the Moog synthesizer in early electronic music. Aaron Copland's awful pro-socialist views do not negate the fact that Fanfare for the Common Man is one of the finest, most quintessentially American pieces of music ever composed.

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It isn't the ELP version so blah.
 
Interesting visual art you got there. Gotta say one thing, though.
NevskyProspekt said:
Who do you think Elvis and all the brilliant early white rock musicians were influenced by?

I'll concede that rap has largely stagnated, but quite frankly it represents a different subset of black American culture.
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>Whitey stole Rock

Show me in traditional African music anything resembling Jazz, Ragtime or Blues: it does not exist. The rhythms of early Jazz can already be heard in Anglo-Saxon operettas of the 19th Century. It is true to say that there have been some magnificent and even revolutionary black performers of Jazz, though more rarely in Rock'n'Roll with the possible exception of Chuck Berry. What is undeniable is that whites have promoted all phases of its evolution.

Rock'n'Roll is rhythmically-augmented Scotch Irish folk. Rock was blacks doing an impression of hillbilly music rather than hillbillies doing an impression of "black music". Even the supposed "blues notes" and tonalities come straight out of Scotch Irish music.(there is no blue note in West African music, meanwhile it has been a norm in the folk music of Great Britain for centuries)

Musicologists tend to ascribe some unique quality to African rhythm when it isn't there. The difference between African and Western music isn't in the rhythm, but in the focus on percussion. African music is tribal and meant to be accompanied by dance. Primitive music in all areas of the world started as highly percussive because that's what comes readily to us as human beings. Western music had centuries of development and went astray from those percussive roots long ago.

While Western music was exploring dissonance after entering the modern period, blacks in America started using Western theory and instruments to return to basic human impulse: the rhythm. Turning the focus towards percussion exploded in black music's popularity because Western art music became inaccessibly experimental and dissonant to general audiences. Jazz and Blues's percussive focus caught on hard because rhythm comes to us instinctively. Without the 'We Waz Rawkers and shieet', the myth is as solid as a bowel after eating too much Taco Bell.

On another note, there was a fun thread about this on /mu/ a couple years back.
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The greatest works of black art ever made were the theme song to The Jeffersons and whatever the hell that painting was that showed during the ending credits of Good Times.

That being said, many black people are trained from birth to be envious of Whitey, so they'll emphasize their blackness as a way of salving their egos. It doesn't help that white liberals slobber all over anything a black person does as a way to show how enlightened they are. Even small town newspapers will emphasize a black person's "struggle to overcome racism" even if all that black person is doing is getting an office job or joining a lacrosse team. ("Oh look! That black person is acting like actual people! What a stunning and brave individual!")
 
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Senator Armstrong said:
Same


He is somehow absurdly well off even today, survived a smearing via obsenity trial and actually has the potential for social change. I just have a gut feeling that I cannot prove, he is like Alex Jones where he gets a lot of glowie funding via COINTELPRO to make actual opposition act like retards and self destruct.
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He's a jew who owned a record company, he ripped his band mates off for atleast 200k. He's a San Fransiscan who hung with the worst of them. Why the fuck would anyone have anything to do with Allan Ginsberg unless you think raping kids is cool or you have no problem with immorality for money.

The entertainment industry is controlled top to bottom by jews, its always funny when people try to pretend it's a secret.
 
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Because if the only selling point you have is "made by blacks", you're probably a hack. There's plenty of bands I love that have black singers/band members, and I didn't know they were black until I was explicitly told. Also black people are the current sacred cows of society, it's a natural consequence of affirmative action on steroids that we're going to end up with some absolute blithering retards.
 
I have an anecdote.

half-a-lifetime ago I decided to sign up for as many free online things as possible to see if I could actually get things for free. One of the few that actually ended up being legit was a membership to a black book group who ended up sending me three free books. Now, for an African American reading group you think they'd send the best representative works they could... but that was not the case. All three books were basically what this thread is about on steroids - books about gangstas doing illegal activity, like some kind of right wing parody. The true winner was a book called Thug Matrimony written by an incarcerated black woman and flipping to any random page you could find hilarious, stereotypical cringe. When I first got it I was showing a friend and randomly flipped to a section describing a character's vagina and it's "gushy walls" in a trashy sex scene. It just seems those books are what they chose to send out, really sending a poor picture of black authors.
 
Bonesjones said:
He's a jew who owned a record company, he ripped his band mates off for atleast 200k. He's a San Fransiscan who hung with the worst of them. Why the fuck would anyone have anything to do with Allan Ginsberg unless you think raping kids is cool or you have no problem with immorality for money.

The entertainment industry is controlled top to bottom by jews, its always funny when people try to pretend it's a secret.
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I didn't even know that bit about Allan Ginsberg but holy fuck my gut instinct was right about Jewlo seeming like a freak. Not to mention his balding manchild tardfit at Trump being elected where he threw a tantrum and rolled around on his bed.
 
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