Why is there so much mainstream acceptance of troonery when there's endless examples of how this is negatively affecting society?? - Why do we constantly excuse the bad behavior of troons?

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On the political spectrum I'm about as liberal as they come, except this one issue. Why?? Because originally I assumed the default position of acceptance, until it became obvious that there were so many examples of how this blanket acceptance was not, in fact, advancing society. Full-grown trans men exposing themselves in spas, locker rooms, bathrooms. Trans men threatening and committing violence against women. Children experiencing rapid onset dysphoria as a result of the influence and pressure from the online trans community and then making irreversible changes to their body that they often end up regretting. Criminals, including many who are sex offenders, suddenly declaring themselves "women" so they can be moved to female prisons. Female athletes having all their hard work and dedication invalidated because men are allowed to enter into the competition- and they're just expected to shut up and accept it.

And you can't question ANY of this stuff on mainstream social media platforms without the online trans community sending their army to manipulate the reaction/feedback on your post. Women aren't allowed to question anything or raise issue with stuff that directly affects them without being called a "TERF." I seriously don't understand how there aren't more people recognizing the contradictions of this mainstream doctrine. What is it gonna take for more people to wake up???
 
The answer is always $$$$$$$$$$

LGB advocacy groups had nothing but harassing obscure Coloradan bakers to do for attention after sodomy was decriminalized, gay marriage was federally legalized. and sexuality was made part of anti-discrimination law. They'd achieved their goals. Adding the T gave them something to keep the wheel of begging for donations going.
Big Pharma and the cosmetic surgery community loooove the idea of lifetime customers for HRT and feminizing/masculizing plastic surgery.

The media's bought in because they're all owned by massive conglomerates that have fingers in one or both of those pies, and fear of media backlash is why all the social media platforms cape for trannies so hard.
 
The triumph of the Rainbow Mafia, especially the Obergfell v. Hodges SCOTUS decision, has set the Overton Window to the point that having any problem with sexual deviancy is dismissed out-of-hand as simple bigotry and obsolete religious prudishness.

Speak out against it, and your meal ticket is in jeopardy. You may even be declared a domestic terrorist for it.

The Slippery Slope is not a fallacy; it's an iron law at this juncture. Within a decade, we went from "gays just wanna marry and be left alone" to "GIVE US UNLIMITED ACCESS TO YOUR KIDS BIGOT!"
 
I think the Media pushes it because 1) they want to push the narrative that we are bigots if we oppose this sickness, and 2) it's their version of PC. Shit is sick, most agree on that. and the media has lost it's damn mind if they think the majority of people accept it... the majority doesn't. (Let me correct myself, "progressives" called that as I don't know what to call these degenerates anymore) are terrified of being seen as "not accepting"

Brings to mind, the MALE that some family in England took in, guess they felt sorry for him, he "identified" as "female" Well, THAT wasn't very bright, that fat ass not only slept with the 14 yr old daughter, but got her pregnant.
 
In my experience, talk to anyone in private and they will express some doubts about Trans Rights. They're simply afraid of disclosing it publicly due to the amount of power Trans Rights Activists have in the media.

Why a group that doesn't really have that much support is being pushed so hard for? There's a lot of conspiracies, but everything always comes down to money and power. Including the fear of losing that money or power.

Big corps want to maintain or grow their money or power, so they advertise towards whatever they think will give them it. That includes causes they may not actually believe in.

They also make a push to hire people along diversity quotas due to the public attention they will get for it. What kind of beliefs do you think LGBTQ BIPOC people would have? Probably pro LGBTQ BIPOC.

So now we have a bunch of companies, who have power from decades of shady business practices and old money, filled with more pro LGBTQ people than the average room and that are also willing to pander to causes they don't believe in. Once the pro people gain positions of power, we see what's happening now, where they have been given an inch and are using propoganda tools to take a mile.
 
Either money or they bought into the "if you don't support me, then clearly you want me dead" arguments transpeople make.
 
For those who have not done so, I HIGHLY recommend listening to this podcast with Gregory Hood and Paul Gottfriend entitled "The Anti=fascist State."


At about 10:30 in, GH obsevers that if you plot out when something becomes a narrative in the mass media, you can see, visually when public opinion changes.

This calls into question the very notion of democracy, if the masses form their opinions in lock step with the predominant narrative, and most people are simply "outputs" of "media signals."

They also note how radical it is that women, who have natural, hardcoded maternal instincts, could, on a macro level,, offer their children up to have sterilizing "gender affirming" procedures.

Someone else mentioned the Overton Window and Gay Marriage. This is correct. In Sodom and Gomorrah by Robert Bork, he discusses a phenomenon called Defining Deviancy Down, closely related with something called the Durkheim Constant. Essentially, a society of saints and a society of sinners will have drastically different mores, but the overall quotient of what is considered deviant will be the same. This is precisely why homosexuality needs to be on the fringes. Keep the shame and mild societal disapproval, so that discrete homosexual relationships are just that, rather than gay prides parades with gay men fucking themselves in the ass with dildoes on open streets, doing other lewd sex acts. (Someone here can post the photo essay of the SF street fair).

Anyone other Gen X'er remember Mr Belvedere. Christopher Hewitt was obviously gay to any worldy person. But he kept it to himself, was a parishioner at his church, holding himself out as a confimed bachelor. We have gone from that, to gay marriage, to gender lunatics proselytizing and grooming kids. All of this needed to be stopped decades ago. But since the mainstream right in this shitty country does not care culture, but drones on about tax cuts, etc, the Cultural Marxists marched through all the institutions. Critically, few could articulate a coherent, secular argument against gay marriage (such as Defininy Deviancy Down).

Unfortunately I dont see this changing anytime soon. There seemts to be no desire to roll back the Alphabet Mafia. Maybe people need to get graphic and vulgar about disgusting homosexuality is, with graphic, vulgar detail about how revolting male homosexual sex acts are. A big problem is that so much of it has been so sanitized.
 
The media barons are simply doing what they always do - pick up on any highly divisive issue and decide to be for or against it.
People want to read that shit and be outraged.

It sells impressions and keeps everyone busy foaming about trivial bullshit while the billionaires can quietly get on with plundering the remaining resources and setting up their dynasties.

Yeah, I hate the Orwellian changes in language that gaslight you into accepting that black is white, that society will convict you for thoughtcrimes against trannies and so on.
I hate that the left defends and excuses that shit.

In the grand scheme of things, the actual issue of pervs going into women’s bathrooms, pedos using the excuse to get access to kids is fairly small. Of course any increase in harm like that is bad, and it’s fair to try to make it socially unacceptable again. Personally I would shoot offenders.

However it really gets amplified by the right because they’re basically trying to distract from an endemic problem on their own side. Christian Conservative churches are rife with child sex abuse, historically and now. You’ve even got a member of Congress about to go to jail for trafficking and rape of minors. It’s rife in society and especially on the establishment, Conservative side.
 
Most people aren't aware of those examples.
We are because we're on KF but normies have no clue.
Those examples need to become common knowledge in order for the mainstream hatred of troons to start.
Luckily, stuff like troons playing women's sports and the push for drag queens for kids are waking people up.
Don't worry, we'll get there, it's just a matter of time.
 
Ignorant people who believe themselves to be completely informed make up the majority of the company, err, i mean country.
 
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Current Year is the "Post Truth Era" of "fact checking" - endless hot takes and propaganda.

So if the "transgender" craze is negatively impacting this world, SJWs want to cover it up.
 
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I found a pic of one of those 4chan thinkposts recently that said something like, people who can't defend themselves interpret information defensively, and adopt consensus views almost as a survival strategy - i.e., if you can't fight then it's better to hide - with the only notable exception being neurodivergents like autists. I'm not sure how far I believe that but some part of it resonates, there's some kind of psychological mechanism to the way consensus is maintained. people on the whole do not think analytically about much of the information they receive. instead the average vetting process works on an emotional level, if it "feels" true or not, which has more to do with how that information interacts with things like your image of yourself, your existing opinions, etc. however, the image of a world-wise brainlord is something people tend to adopt for whatever reason, partly because it's flattering I'm sure, but I think there's also an American cultural element to it, where we all see ourselves as responsible, discerning citizens regardless of how true that is. so people tend to think of their own worldviews as an educated opinion they reached logically, and when they see other people using emotional reasoning and doing contradictory shit, it seems like everyone is retarded and the whole world is going crazy.

the strength and insidiousness of the psychological compulsion to adopt consensus views is also unrecognized and underrated. especially for those of us among the "opposition", there's a common self-image that your neurons have been triggered and you are now on a brain journey to reach the most purely logical viewpoint based on information that's been withheld from you. I think this is also flattery, most people in communities like ours have reactionary stances that result from being booted out of the dominant liberal consensus due to the ever-more-strict purity tests. and absent that connection, we ourselves have formed a sort of consensus-in-exile, largely based on reaction to the liberal viciousness about particular topics, for example racism and anti-semitism. I think a lot of those viewpoints come from spite at being pushed outside the circle. you can see it in the A&N threads here if you read enough of them.

this, I think, is the gist of it. it is easy to unconsciously lie to yourself about just how well-reasoned and unemotional your opinions actually are; it's also easy to see the contradiction in other people's rhetoric and actions from your outside view as somebody with a different opinion. and the exasperation and frustration you're feeling comes from the friction between your learned expectations of the mechanics of human behavior and how the human brain actually works.

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