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I've read it and it's my favorite book. There is however one good adaptation out there which I'd heartily recommend: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Misérables_(2000_miniseries)
Wicked. - Based on the musical.
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Firemalzahn
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The online grifters that fall into the goobergate 2.0 circle are upset that the audiences are liking this movie. I wasn't a fan of the musical, but the word of mouth seems to be really good.
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People are genuinely fans of the stage show and look forward to it. If some nerd from Australia with a YouTube channel about medieval weapons makes a video about how bad it is, that just looks bad for him.
I saw the show on Broadway and hated it. I will never watch the film, even if people say it is amazing. Seeing an ad on TV with that defying gravity song just brought back the PTSD of escaping that song at the bar. The film being woke isn't going to be content I care about.
I will however watch videos about how emotionally stunted and/or fake the actresses are crying on the media tour as if the film is personal to their value as human beings. WTF is that about?
Stab You in the Back
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I was in Target today and heard the movie's version of "The Wizard and I." In addition to being ugly and old, the girl who plays Elphaba can't sing for shit. Her enunciation is terrible. Half the words in the song are mumbled. Her delivery is lifeless in the typical Hollywood fashion, which makes her casting even more puzzling. She's not a movie star, she's not attractive and she can't sing. So why, of all the amazing black broadway performers, pick her to be Elphaba?
Then at the end of the song she does that retarded black warbling which is okay when its someone who can sing well like Diana Ross, but just sounds like a high school performance when sung by this old hag.
Then at the end of the song she does that retarded black warbling which is okay when its someone who can sing well like Diana Ross, but just sounds like a high school performance when sung by this old hag.
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you think that is funny, look up pictures of ariana and her bother.
the girls and gays
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you think that is funny, look up pictures of ariana and her bother.
the girls and gays
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Wicked is a bad play and I view anyone who likes it with disgust. The songs all suck. Defying Gravity is fucking painful to listen to.
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I'm not watching Wicked because the main characters are played by hideous people and the plot looks like Jewish "Aw, the weirdo outsider you all fear actually isn't all that bad" horseshit.
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Apparently, this is part one of a two-film adaptation (rate me late, but not gay).
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My only exposure to this cultural phenomenon taking the nation by storm was the Target commercial they played non-stop of some ogre pushing a White guy trying to sing out of the way so she could raise her face to the heavens and let out an awful sound. I'm guessing we're talking about the same woman.
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Hey guys, I went and watched Wicked (Part 1) last night. My girlfriend always defers to me for the movie night choices, so I was happy to oblige her and take her to see one she was really excited for. She says the non stop YouTube press junket videos convinced her to go see it. Here are my thoughts:
I have not seen anything Wicked related since the musical in the early 2000's. I love the Wizard of Oz, but feel no nostalgia or fanaticism over it. Therefore the "expansion" of the universe and characters feels trite after it has been done by every possible IP in the last 2 decades. Not the fault of a musical or book from 2 decades ago, but it is not as interesting or fresh coming out today. To be clear, I love musicals and am not a "pineapple on pizza" normie who has to declare how "weird" singing in a movie is.
Conclusion / TLDR:
Not really made for me, but as a token boyfriend dragged to the theater, there was nothing interesting. Other musicals have a great romance or plot behind them that drive the songs and make them more powerful, this did not. The whole thing felt like it was made out of necessity, to fulfill ego for Ariana or to grab up the cash for Universal. I have no love for the Oz expanded universe, so I wasn't impressed by the references and callbacks. Complete 5/10 for me, AND EXTREMELY LONG.
Maybe I just don't like Wicked, in any form.
I have not seen anything Wicked related since the musical in the early 2000's. I love the Wizard of Oz, but feel no nostalgia or fanaticism over it. Therefore the "expansion" of the universe and characters feels trite after it has been done by every possible IP in the last 2 decades. Not the fault of a musical or book from 2 decades ago, but it is not as interesting or fresh coming out today. To be clear, I love musicals and am not a "pineapple on pizza" normie who has to declare how "weird" singing in a movie is.
Actors/Plot:
While watching this movie, I realized I did not like the core plot of Wicked. There is really no driving force or motivation to the plot other than the disjointed events playing out on screen. Green girl is born, she has powers and is mocked, then she bids farewell to her sister who is going to Shizz (Academy?). These have no connective writing and just start happening, one event after the next. Elphaba is also annoying, as she is constantly talking down to people and hiding her true power level. The whole plot feels like a self insert OC being superior to everyone else, yet being shunned and mocked. It is a particular feminine approach to a "badass" character. A girl who is better than everyone and won't get the recognition she inherently deserves because everyone else is mean and stupid. Did she do anything difficult or meaningful to earn her badass status? No.
So this makes Elphaba unlikeable, she didn't earn her superiority and her condesencion is palpable. Her being a black actress and talking down to stupid whitey also gave a weird racial back sass component to the scenes. What is her motivation? She never states she even likes magic, she is just good at blowing things up when she's mad. A chinese woman with a heavy accent tells Elphaba she can be a great witch, and she suddenly falls in love with the idea via song. Makes more sense when written out, but is very sudden in the movie. Some early backstory or motivation would have helped.
Guhlinda, played by Ariana Grande, is my least favorite part of the movie. Ariana is aparently a huge fan of the musical, but she was wrong for the part. She always strikes me as full of herself and unpleasant, so I get the feeling she strong armed her way into the cast. Visually, she looks anorexic, and her skin is stretched across her face and neck. Mixed with her extremely dark eyes, pale skin, and unnaturally blonde hair, she looks like a skinwalker and scary to me. She is not the stereotypical popular girl that Glinda needs to be. She didn't work, and Glinda has a particular style of humor that a different actress would have done better.
There is a minor plot about animals losing their speech, and being repressed. My ears finally perked up as a plot was being developed, and something to drive the characters was introduced. It quickly ended and became a confusing musical again. I have to reiterate that this movie/musical has nothing driving the scenes. Without a story, you are left confused and have nothing to latch onto. Only after finishing the movie can you say "Oh, so that is what it's about!"
Visuals:
The movie had a gay and feminine look to it. Cinematography was flat and boring, similar to a Marvel or live action Disney movie. The extremely saturated colors and flat shots made it seem like a low effort kids movie to the eye. Extremely racially diverse, as these types of movies are. I noticed every group of people singing or dancing always had one of each race. So, the unnatural college brochure feeling permeated throughout each scene. Every man in the movie was feminine, even the male love interest. I can see how women feel watching an overly masculine movie, I felt the inverse and had no masculine presence to relate to. Everyone seemed alien and sassy or gay. The male love interest is introduced, then in his first song he starts doing homosexual gyrating and shit, I had to look away because it was way too much.
Singing:
The singing seemed "normal" to me. I have heard the musical numbers, and they are catchy. The most fun part of them is the dated instrumentation of their time. In the movie, they do faithful renditions that don't really differentiate themselves. I have no complaints about Elphaba's singing.
Ariana however is a misfire to me. She can hit the high notes, and often does to show off, but while singing at a high note she is incomprehensible. There were a few scenes where her high note was a lyric that overpowered the background singers and shrieked so loud you could not figure out what she was supposed to be singing. This made it a bit confusing.
None of the songs were moving or interesting to me, I hated some because there were just so, so many. I liked the "Defying Gravity" at the end, because it meant the movie was almost over.
While watching this movie, I realized I did not like the core plot of Wicked. There is really no driving force or motivation to the plot other than the disjointed events playing out on screen. Green girl is born, she has powers and is mocked, then she bids farewell to her sister who is going to Shizz (Academy?). These have no connective writing and just start happening, one event after the next. Elphaba is also annoying, as she is constantly talking down to people and hiding her true power level. The whole plot feels like a self insert OC being superior to everyone else, yet being shunned and mocked. It is a particular feminine approach to a "badass" character. A girl who is better than everyone and won't get the recognition she inherently deserves because everyone else is mean and stupid. Did she do anything difficult or meaningful to earn her badass status? No.
So this makes Elphaba unlikeable, she didn't earn her superiority and her condesencion is palpable. Her being a black actress and talking down to stupid whitey also gave a weird racial back sass component to the scenes. What is her motivation? She never states she even likes magic, she is just good at blowing things up when she's mad. A chinese woman with a heavy accent tells Elphaba she can be a great witch, and she suddenly falls in love with the idea via song. Makes more sense when written out, but is very sudden in the movie. Some early backstory or motivation would have helped.
Guhlinda, played by Ariana Grande, is my least favorite part of the movie. Ariana is aparently a huge fan of the musical, but she was wrong for the part. She always strikes me as full of herself and unpleasant, so I get the feeling she strong armed her way into the cast. Visually, she looks anorexic, and her skin is stretched across her face and neck. Mixed with her extremely dark eyes, pale skin, and unnaturally blonde hair, she looks like a skinwalker and scary to me. She is not the stereotypical popular girl that Glinda needs to be. She didn't work, and Glinda has a particular style of humor that a different actress would have done better.
There is a minor plot about animals losing their speech, and being repressed. My ears finally perked up as a plot was being developed, and something to drive the characters was introduced. It quickly ended and became a confusing musical again. I have to reiterate that this movie/musical has nothing driving the scenes. Without a story, you are left confused and have nothing to latch onto. Only after finishing the movie can you say "Oh, so that is what it's about!"
Visuals:
The movie had a gay and feminine look to it. Cinematography was flat and boring, similar to a Marvel or live action Disney movie. The extremely saturated colors and flat shots made it seem like a low effort kids movie to the eye. Extremely racially diverse, as these types of movies are. I noticed every group of people singing or dancing always had one of each race. So, the unnatural college brochure feeling permeated throughout each scene. Every man in the movie was feminine, even the male love interest. I can see how women feel watching an overly masculine movie, I felt the inverse and had no masculine presence to relate to. Everyone seemed alien and sassy or gay. The male love interest is introduced, then in his first song he starts doing homosexual gyrating and shit, I had to look away because it was way too much.
Singing:
The singing seemed "normal" to me. I have heard the musical numbers, and they are catchy. The most fun part of them is the dated instrumentation of their time. In the movie, they do faithful renditions that don't really differentiate themselves. I have no complaints about Elphaba's singing.
Ariana however is a misfire to me. She can hit the high notes, and often does to show off, but while singing at a high note she is incomprehensible. There were a few scenes where her high note was a lyric that overpowered the background singers and shrieked so loud you could not figure out what she was supposed to be singing. This made it a bit confusing.
None of the songs were moving or interesting to me, I hated some because there were just so, so many. I liked the "Defying Gravity" at the end, because it meant the movie was almost over.
Conclusion / TLDR:
Not really made for me, but as a token boyfriend dragged to the theater, there was nothing interesting. Other musicals have a great romance or plot behind them that drive the songs and make them more powerful, this did not. The whole thing felt like it was made out of necessity, to fulfill ego for Ariana or to grab up the cash for Universal. I have no love for the Oz expanded universe, so I wasn't impressed by the references and callbacks. Complete 5/10 for me, AND EXTREMELY LONG.
Maybe I just don't like Wicked, in any form.
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Amber the Hedgehog
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Far as I know not really. Just kinda nuts and anorexic like many celebrities.
Firemalzahn
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She’s so fucking skinny. There 0 muscle definition
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I watched an allegedly telesync bootleg, but you could tell the audio was recorded in the theater. Anyway, the songs, choreography, costume design were all shit. That's saying nothing of the color grading and other technical aspects of film making, because I honestly believe the worst parts of this movie sprung up from theater people wanting to make something for themselves rather than the average moviegoer. TKOP: theater kid occupied production.
The ginger munchkins were repulsive, even worse than the nigger witch I think. Actual deformed midgets would have been easier on my eyes than a thousand extras made up to look like that disgusting Judas Iscariot SpongeBob kike they brought in to play Boq. And I found Ariana ghoulish.
I looked into the source material, the novel the musical was based on. I didn't read it, but it sounds retarded. In summation, fuck Wicked.
The ginger munchkins were repulsive, even worse than the nigger witch I think. Actual deformed midgets would have been easier on my eyes than a thousand extras made up to look like that disgusting Judas Iscariot SpongeBob kike they brought in to play Boq. And I found Ariana ghoulish.
I looked into the source material, the novel the musical was based on. I didn't read it, but it sounds retarded. In summation, fuck Wicked.
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Maybe she's a nepo hire? Like some family member is a bigwig and made it happen. If they were going to diversity hire for Elphaba they could have done way better. It's indeed puzzling that they chose someone subpar.
