Careercow Wil Wheaton + Felicia Day - The "Man" who soy'd the World and the Fakest of Geek Girls, SJW sexual harassment fence-sitters

[TVB]

Was checking social media stuff and apparently he's a featured guest on the Trek cruise

I've never seen a picture of him that screamed faggot harder than this

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I wonder, how much soy was drinking before his picture was taken?

 

[Harambe]

Was checking social media stuff and apparently he's a featured guest on the Trek cruise

I've never seen a picture of him that screamed faggot harder than this

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is he sick or something

 

[Judge Holden]

Wesley went nowhere (literally) and never grew out of the little smartass boyscout character writers put him in. His whole appeareance in Discard Season 2 was just as insufferable as its always been.
Terribly written character. Blame it on Roddenberry, but everyone after just repeated the same thing over and over with him and it sucked.

Honestly given how he has so overtly revealed himself to be such a wormy little bitch and backstabber I think the whole "wesley was let down by the writers and roddenberry's autism" narrative of the last two decades needs to be seriously re-examined and non wheaton sources of the time consulted because while I don't doubt that the writers and Roddenberry screwed up the first two seasons, I have heard enough stories of wheaton being an unironic narcissist in the late 80s and 90s and seen him being an unfathomably embarrassing "lol im so kooky and goofy and le'snarky" narcissist since then to suspect that he was probably pushing hard for "Wesley to do more cool things and everybody claps" at Roddenberry and the producers and throwing a tantrum whenever they didnt give him what he wanted, and when this resulted in him becoming the most despised runt on television he blamed everything on the now departed writers/dead Roddenberry and jumped aboard the "I WAS A MUHBUSED CHILD ACTOR!" bandwagon along with monopolising the early "nerd sphere" on internet 1.0 to make it awkward for anyone who could confirm he was lying out his ass to come out and do so without fear of a backlash.

Is this entirely empty speculation? Absolutely, but I sincerely doubt wil was some kind of stand up guy until the millenium and only then turned into the cancerous shitbag he is now, and thus I am always gonna have doubts as to the traditional telling of early TNG with regards to the writing of wesley

 

[The Taco Santo!]

I know this has been somewhat hinted but on some level, I think Wheaton feels rejected because all these Hollywood pederasts didn't find him charming enough to molest. Has anyone seen that South Park episode in which Mr. Garrison is furious at his father because his father didn't find him attractive enough to fuck him as a child? I get the same vibe from Wheaton-the-Cretin. Which proves that he's actually more fucked-up than I gave him credit for.

River Phoenix was being molested by the big names, ol' Gordie was just getting butt-fucked by the caterers.

 

[William Murderface]

Honestly given how he has so overtly revealed himself to be such a wormy little bitch and backstabber I think the whole "wesley was let down by the writers and roddenberry's autism" narrative of the last two decades needs to be seriously re-examined and non wheaton sources of the time consulted because while I don't doubt that the writers and Roddenberry screwed up the first two seasons, I have heard enough stories of wheaton being an unironic narcissist in the late 80s and 90s and seen him being an unfathomably embarrassing "lol im so kooky and goofy and le'snarky" narcissist since then to suspect that he was probably pushing hard for "Wesley to do more cool things and everybody claps" at Roddenberry and the producers and throwing a tantrum whenever they didnt give him what he wanted, and when this resulted in him becoming the most despised runt on television he blamed everything on the now departed writers/dead Roddenberry and jumped aboard the "I WAS A MUHBUSED CHILD ACTOR!" bandwagon along with monopolising the early "nerd sphere" on internet 1.0 to make it awkward for anyone who could confirm he was lying out his ass to come out and do so without fear of a backlash.

Is this entirely empty speculation? Absolutely, but I sincerely doubt wil was some kind of stand up guy until the millenium and only then turned into the cancerous shitbag he is now, and thus I am always gonna have doubts as to the traditional telling of early TNG with regards to the writing of wesley

It may very well have been the writers simply didn't know what to do with Wesley. They didn't want the Roddenberry self-insert Boy Genius Who Always Saves The Day, but they also didn't want to completely sideline Wesley. Given how he's portrayed himself over the years, Wil probably wasn't assertive enough to go to the writers and ask them to do something to show some growth (beyond sucking up to Gene). It might have done everyone some good to have scenes where Wesley was shunned by other teens for being so smart and they see him as kissing adult ass and have scenes were despite their good intentions the crew just don't want a kid hanging around, no matter how smart he is. Make him lonely. Make him like Reg Barkley where his only friends are on the Holodeck. Make it so his own mother doesn't know how to relate to him now that he's an older teen and pulling away like teens do, but at the same time has no one but the expectation that he will walk in his father's shoes. Maybe make him, or Picard, slowly decide Starfleet isn't best for Wesley and try to steer him in a different path. Or put our Acting Ensign in a command role for a landing party or something and people die and he starts to wonder if being in Starfleet, where being an officer means making decisions where sending people to die will happen, and he starts to see that the life decided for him by the ghost of his father might not be what he really wants. Something beyond Space Pedo Grooms Wesley.

But Roddenberry said no human conflicts because we're all enlightened now.

 

[Baggywrinkle_v2]

I think everyone can agree that Wesley was an objectively bad character. A different actor like maybe Jerry O'Connell might have marginally improved him. But I doubt any other actor would spend decades desperately insisting he deserves to be on the same tier as Shatner and Stewart. Wil just hasn't matured past being Wesley Crusher.

 

[Ghostse]

I think everyone can agree that Wesley was an objectively bad character. A different actor like maybe Jerry O'Connell might have marginally improved him. But I doubt any other actor would spend decades desperately insisting he deserves to be on the same tier as Shatner and Stewart. Wil just hasn't matured past being Wesley Crusher.

He was the creator's self-insert when the creator was well past his prime and on the decline. The only possible way an actor change would have saved the character was if the actor knew how to tard wrangle Rodenberry into making the character interesting instead of an insufferable Gary Stu.

 

[William Murderface]

He was the creator's self-insert when the creator was well past his prime and on the decline. The only possible way an actor change would have saved the character was if the actor knew how to tard wrangle Rodenberry into making the character interesting instead of an insufferable Gary Stu.

Based on behind the scenes interviews from various writers and producers, Roddenberry never really listened to feedback and by the time TNG came into being he was so full of himself (and the drugs) that he couldn't be reasoned with and ran the best people off. People who tried to tell him that his "no human conflict" and "humanity has evolved past caring about this that and the other thing" stifled drama. Then throw in how producers like Maurice Hurley who just rubbed the writers wrong or not reining in his lawyer Leonard Maizlish until the writer's guild got involved, and it's a wonder that the show managed to stay on air at all.

I've said before that the behind the camera environment for Wheaton must have been uncomfortable. He's the only kid on the set so he doesn't really fit in with the adults, even being their peer as an actor, and caught in a three way power struggle between the producers, the writers, and the other actors, and his only "friend" in the show's creator who is a drug addled sex fiend who sniffs his own farts and made Wheaton's entire role a self-insert because that stems from grievances over how he's been treated all those years. I can empathize with him if he had to deal with all that AND have a shitty home life (assuming what he says really happened). But where he loses any sympathy is how he's 50+ plu years old now and still whining over how daddy didn't love him, mommy made him a teen star, and neither the fandom nor the producers of the show respect him at all, and only his co-stars who are now all in their late 60s care to speak to him at all, despite years, if not decades, of therapy.

Stop being a victim Wil. Get it together, man.

 

[ThisOldHaus]

Was checking social media stuff and apparently he's a featured guest on the Trek cruise

I've never seen a picture of him that screamed faggot harder than this

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Here's a list of everyone else stuck on that Hellboat. Also, fuck your wallet, turbonerds. (https://archive.md/RAC1r)

Although, I'd pay to see Burton, Spiner and de Lancie getting drunk at the bar and telling stories while Wheaton is standing in the shadows being awkward and trying to insert himself in the conversation.

 

[Ghostse]

Here's a list of everyone else stuck on that Hellboat. Also, fuck your wallet, turbonerds. (https://archive.md/RAC1r)

Although, I'd pay to see Burton, Spiner and de Lancie getting drunk at the bar and telling stories while Wheaton is standing in the shadows being awkward and trying to insert himself in the conversation.

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I have heard that de Lancie is a legit interesting, approachable, and charismatic person with a lot of stories about things that aren't just trek (or even industry related).

I heard Koenig used to party hard ("Motley Crue" was the term used used for scale) back in the day, but I imagine we're at least 20 years past him actually throwing down in any meaningful way.

Hot boxing with Garret Wang & McNeil would be worth it just to say you've done it, but I have no idea if they're decent company or not.

 

[Dr. Butt]

Was checking social media stuff and apparently he's a featured guest on the Trek cruise

I've never seen a picture of him that screamed faggot harder than this

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lol fat

 

[Baggywrinkle_v2]

He was the creator's self-insert when the creator was well past his prime and on the decline. The only possible way an actor change would have saved the character was if the actor knew how to tard wrangle Rodenberry into making the character interesting instead of an insufferable Gary Stu.

Agree, but my overall point is that Wil has tried to turn a shitty character into a career and gets butthurt when people don't consider him among the top tier of Star Trek personnel.

 

[CptnSnshn]

If memory serves she vanished off the internet after hitting the wall worse than the late Princess Diana

Her giant schnozz alone should have stopped her from hitting any kind of wall, you can't "become" ugly if you were never good looking to begin with.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

Roddenberry ironically did the character of Wesley no favors with his meddling by making him a Gary Stu and demanding no interpersonal drama with the crew. The Natural story for Wesley should have been boy genius but not to the level Roddenberry made him, he could have been an "Intern" in engineering but not a Bridge Officer that's for damn sure and he should have grown to resent Picard. His father died under Picard's command and now he sees with his own eyes his mum and Picard have feelings for each other. How do you not want to punch the bald fucker as a son? Then they could have resolved it with Wesley seeing Picard's guilt about Jack and thus why he never tried to have a relationship with Beverly, and they bury the hatchet.

Compare Wesley to Nog. Nog was a side character used mostly for comic relief with Jake. When he wants to join Starfleet, he has to fight an uphill battle of his family being against him and everyone else including his best friend and the audience not trusting his motivation until he finally breaks down in front of Sisko admitting he doesn't want to be like his father. Nog went on to become a beloved character who dealt with massive issues like PTSD during the Dominion War.

Wil and Wesley "Popularity" IMO falls solely on The Big Bang Theory that fucking show made a generation of fake nerds think Wil and thus Wesley was cool.

 

[Mola Ram]

he should have grown to resent Picard. His father died under Picard's command and now he sees with his own eyes his mum and Picard have feelings for each other. How do you not want to punch the bald fucker as a son?

Amusingly, at some point in the character design it was intended that Beverly would have been unfaithful to Jack with Picard, leading to the eventual revelation that Picard was Wesley's real father.

I don't know how long this idea lasted, but if it was still intended when they made the pilot (I doubt it made it any further than that, if it even got that far) then it certainly adds a new dimension to Stewart's performance when Wesley's in a scene with him.

 

[ZipDisk]

I've heard that MacNeil and Wang do a podcast, and that they absolutely shit on voyager, despite deeply loving star trek. Many years ago they got high with Beltran and Beltran HATES trek.
Like they watched a clip of Chakotay, and then he said "Where's the flute, the fucking indian flute?"

That's actually one of star trek's funnier fuckups, they hired a con man to be their "diversity expert" for Chakotay, and when the mask got pulled off, they kept writing him like that.
Jeri Taylor even pushed back when they told her to stop writing feather indian shit, because she is white.
(She invented the Native American Zune what gets you high for vision quests!)

Back to Wheaton, I'd love to hear Berman's take on him. We already know Berman treated the women like shit, and the answer to "can I work a side project" was always "Yes, but also no."
Like "sure, you can do Becker, but we're going to have space satan melt your uterus on camera."

 

[FedPostalService]

I have heard that de Lancie is a legit interesting, approachable, and charismatic person with a lot of stories about things that aren't just trek (or even industry related).

Jenny Nicholson shat on him in a video for him talking tons of shit about Bronies in a convention green room they were doing a panel at, so he sounds good to me.

Given she later made a video about what weird perverts they were at these conventions it does seem a bit hypocritical of her.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

If memory serves she vanished off the internet after hitting the wall worse than the late Princess Diana

It's hard to hit the wall when you wee never really attractive in the first place.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

Amusingly, at some point in the character design it was intended that Beverly would have been unfaithful to Jack with Picard, leading to the eventual revelation that Picard was Wesley's real father.

I don't know how long this idea lasted, but if it was still intended when they made the pilot (I doubt it made it any further than that, if it even got that far) then it certainly adds a new dimension to Stewart's performance when Wesley's in a scene with him.

I get why from a Picard POV why they didn't pull the trigger on that idea. Falling in love with your best friend's wife but never acting on it even after he died makes you noble while fucking your best friend's wife either while he's alive or while the body is still warm makes you look like a scumbag.

 

[WaltherPPGAY]

That's actually one of star trek's funnier fuckups, they hired a con man to be their "diversity expert" for Chakotay, and when the mask got pulled off, they kept writing him like that.
Jeri Taylor even pushed back when they told her to stop writing feather indian shit, because she is white.
(She invented the Native American Zune what gets you high for vision quests!)

Looking at her filmography is like seeing shit smeared across the second half of TNG. It's remarkable how many of the episodes I rolled my eyes at where she was responsible in some capacity.