Windows 8

[Niachu]

Windows 98SE was the best OS Microsoft produced, and everything after has been slowly crippled and fruited up. I'll give you a rundown:

Win98SE: Perfect

Hi there, Mylarballoonfan!

I have no idea who that is. Is that the chick who gets a release by popping balloons?

It's this Danish guy who hates everything from after the 80's/90's and really freaking loves mylar baloons. On the old forums someone posted a video of him shouting "FUCK DA ENVIRONMENT" and he experienced a wave of trolling not too long after. He was a popular target on 789 and eventually took all his videos down and confronted the place, which ended about as well as you would expect. Not sure what happened to him after that.

 

[spaps]

Hi there, Mylarballoonfan!

I have no idea who that is. Is that the chick who gets a release by popping balloons?

It's this Danish guy who hates everything from after the 80's/90's and really freaking loves mylar baloons. On the old forums someone posted a video of him shouting "FUCK DA ENVIRONMENT" and he experienced a wave of trolling not too long after. He was a popular target on 789 and eventually took all his videos down and confronted the place, which ended about as well as you would expect. Not sure what happened to him after that.

What? You can't possibly hate this:

 

[Enig]

Hi there, Mylarballoonfan!

I have no idea who that is. Is that the chick who gets a release by popping balloons?

It's this Danish guy who hates everything from after the 80's/90's and really freaking loves mylar baloons. On the old forums someone posted a video of him shouting "FUCK DA ENVIRONMENT" and he experienced a wave of trolling not too long after. He was a popular target on 789 and eventually took all his videos down and confronted the place, which ended about as well as you would expect. Not sure what happened to him after that.

He's back at the n0chan bunker on 888chan now, posting up a spergstorm. I wish I could find the backup of the Top Gear "I love oval" video he made, though.

 

[KatsuKitty]

I love how all of his videos start the same. "Hello everyone! This is Pamperchyeeeu". He does that annoying thing some people do where his "u"s become "yew"s. UGH

 

[Niachu]

I love how all of his videos start the same. "Hello everyone! This is Pamperchyeeeu". He does that annoying thing some people do where his "u"s become "yew"s. UGH

Was that post meant for this topic?

 

[KatsuKitty]

Oh shit. No it wasn't. Fuck.

 

[The Hunter]

Oh shit. No it wasn't. Fuck.

lol, I figured I'd be the first on this forum to mess up like that.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

Windows 8 really isn't that bad. For desktops/laptops, the Metro UI (Start screen) and all of its apps are absolutely pointless, but I enjoy its search function way better than W7's. Either way, in a few months MS will introduce Windows Blue (W8's equivalent to a service pack) which will focus more on the desktop experience.

 

[Surtur]

I picked up a Surface today, came with Win 8 RT. Ill post my feelings on it later.

 

[Caddchef]

I've read that it's better optimized than 7 was, to the tune of being able to get a few percentage points higher FPS out of games. It's handy if you use a Unix distro for day to day stuff and dual-boot Windows for games.
Personally, I'll continue to use 7 until ReactOS is stable enough for me to jump ship.

From what i understand any advantage you get from it being better optimized will be offset by the fact that it's the most bloated, resource hungry OS ever.

 

[Freecell]

I've read that it's better optimized than 7 was, to the tune of being able to get a few percentage points higher FPS out of games. It's handy if you use a Unix distro for day to day stuff and dual-boot Windows for games.
Personally, I'll continue to use 7 until ReactOS is stable enough for me to jump ship.

From what i understand any advantage you get from it being better optimized will be offset by the fact that it's the most bloated, resource hungry OS ever.

This motivated me to do a bit of cursory Googling, and it looks like, while the speeds are very comparable (with 8 winning and losing on different machines by margins of <5% in most cases) 8 boots up considerably faster and occupies about 2/3ds of the RAM while idle. The rough trend I'm seeing is that it reads considerably faster (boot times in particular look a lot better, for both the OS and for other software) while writing a little slower. The Ars Technika article is the prettiest-looking comparison I've seen so far, though it's missing the RAM comparison which can be found here.
These look like they're clean installs, so maybe 8 is slower once more software is installed, but it's looking the other way to me.
Either way, the specs look mostly comparable, so really I'd say it's just about whether or not you're interested in learning a new interface and/or giving Microsoft money.

 

[Smokedaddy]

From what i understand any advantage you get from it being better optimized will be offset by the fact that it's the most bloated, resource hungry OS ever.

Not really. "Bloated" and "resource hungry" are the opposite of optimized in a lot of ways.

I put Win8 on the new system and after a couple weeks it doesn't drive me screaming from the room anymore -- it felt like trying to work a computer while wearing boxing gloves for a while -- but I've figured out how to bend to to my will, at least mostly, and it's not so bad. Annoying, but not infuriating.

Win 8 is fast. It boots from power off to wanting my password in twelve seconds, and that's without an SSD. Steam loads in half a second, maybe - click-boom. MS Visual Studio Pro starts up in ten. Yeah, it'll eat what you throw at it, but you can tell it what to stay out of and a lot of stuff is happy and seamless. It's a LOT pickier about 64-bit-ness than Win7-64 was by a long shot, and I miss the lovely Aero desktop from days of yore, but I'm throwing a lot of peripherals at it and it just handles all without a peep; resource monitor tells me I'm floating along with about 1.5 GB used of main RAM.

That said, I don't think I'd install it on anything but a new or nearly-new system. The Metro interface (you'll practically never catch me in there) is schizophrenic and just shuffles you off to the desktop when you have something that actually needs to get done, like running the control panel. It's weird, and I understand the RT version sucks huge tiddly-wankers, but it's not as bad as some people claim. The hardware + software environment I run in was a little tricky to get happening under Win7, but Win8 was a walk in the park.

 

[Surtur]

My experiances with RT have been pretty positive so far.

 

[Smugleaf]

Frankly, I'd rather run ubuntu than Windows 8.

 

[Smokedaddy]

Frankly, I'd rather run ubuntu than Windows 8.

'Tis a matter of necessity, sometimes. I have to write shit that runs under Windows, so I need Windows on the machine.

Ubuntu is the Linux distro that people recommend the most . . . I plan to put an SSD in this machine sometime in the next few months and that'll be an opportunity to make it dual-boot. Have you messed with any of the other Linux flavors? What makes Ubuntu the choice?

 

[Niachu]

Gonna be getting a new computer in just a few days, and I'm a little concerned about what I'll find. I've been window shopping for the past few months and almost all the new desktops I've seen are running Windows 8, save for one that was on sale at Wal-Mart. But now that I have more money, I'd like to buy something nice.

I really don't feel like learning my way around a new OS. If something goes wrong, there are more resources on the internet available to tell me how to fix 7. Not only that, but several programs I'm running depend on how well I know my way around the hidden folders.

I really don't know how different 8 is from 7 (which I'm hoping I'll find--it certainly gave me less grief than Vista) but first, I'll see if the Best Buy/Staples/Wherevers around here still sell desktops with 7. If not, I guess I'll tentatively be doing my research on 8.

 

[Freecell]

Frankly, I'd rather run ubuntu than Windows 8.

'Tis a matter of necessity, sometimes. I have to write shit that runs under Windows, so I need Windows on the machine.

Ubuntu is the Linux distro that people recommend the most . . . I plan to put an SSD in this machine sometime in the next few months and that'll be an opportunity to make it dual-boot. Have you messed with any of the other Linux flavors? What makes Ubuntu the choice?

I prefer Lubuntu for dual-boot because it's a lot lighter and faster than Ubuntu. The only real difference is that it uses LXDE rather than Unity, and I personally like the feel of LXDE more. I've really only played with Ubuntu's variants, so I can't tell you if it's better than fedora or ArchLinux or whatever, but it's a pretty comfortable fit in any case.

Gonna be getting a new computer in just a few days, and I'm a little concerned about what I'll find. I've been window shopping for the past few months and almost all the new desktops I've seen are running Windows 8, save for one that was on sale at Wal-Mart. But now that I have more money, I'd like to buy something nice.

I really don't feel like learning my way around a new OS. If something goes wrong, there are more resources on the internet available to tell me how to fix 7. Not only that, but several programs I'm running depend on how well I know my way around the hidden folders.

I really don't know how different 8 is from 7 (which I'm hoping I'll find--it certainly gave me less grief than Vista) but first, I'll see if the Best Buy/Staples/Wherevers around here still sell desktops with 7. If not, I guess I'll tentatively be doing my research on 8.

I'd recommend just building your own. It's really not that difficult. It's as easy as making anything from IKEA - slot the relevant part into the relevant hole. Prebuilt PCs are almost never 'even', meaning they'll have a good GPU but an awful power supply or really bad everything except for an expensive CPU, and the mark-up on pre-built is huge, so buying parts off Amazon or whatever is really the only way to get anywhere near your money's worth.

 

[Surtur]

My own PC is custom built, that beong said I know some people feel uncomfortble builing one so buying a prebuilt is not a bad idea. I have recently discovered a bunch of emulators that work on my Surface. Giggity.

 

[Niachu]

My brother decided to get the new computer for me early, so here I am.

It's running Windows 8. So far, I'm actually learning my way around it fairly easily. If I have any interesting things to say about it I'll post back here.

 

[The Hunter]

It's running Windows 8.

Don't say we didn't warn you.

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