Windows 8

The Hunter said:
Niachu said:
It's running Windows 8.
Don't say we didn't warn you.

Seeing as how everyone has thoughtfully weighed the pros and cons with minimal complaint and a lack of ominous warnings I think I'll be fine for the most part. Unless you have any personal experience with it that you'd like to share.
 
I'm finding the Metro is much better than what Apple and Google offer as fare as a touch inter face is concerned.
 
Surtur said:
I'm finding the Metro is much better than what Apple and Google offer as fare as a touch inter face is concerned.
Yeah, but there's a reason I don't buy Apple products.

Although if you're referring to a tablet, then it'd probably be more convenient on that, I guess. The interface is pointless and stupid if you're using it on a laptop/desktop.
 
The Hunter said:
Well, I suppose if you're going to stick with it, you should read this.
Thanks for that link, I wish I had a better guide for breaking in Win8 for a business environment a few weeks ago. Each successive version of Windows seems to make it harder to switch back to a "Windows Classic" UI. I can adapt to UI changes very quickly, but I have clients who absolutely cannot adapt to even the slightest bit of change. If an icon simply moves to another spot on the desktop, if their mouse pointer changes color, or if Caps Lock gets stuck on they shut down until IT can come and restore it.

Hey, does anyone have any opinions on the GeForce GTX 650 Ti, AMD Radeon HD 7850, or another $150 ~ $200 card they'd be willing to share? I need to build a casual gaming rig for under $400 for a clients' kid, but I don't play PC games, so I rarely sweat graphics cards.
 
GFYS said:
The Hunter said:
Hey, does anyone have any opinions on the GeForce GTX 650 Ti, AMD Radeon HD 7850, or another $150 ~ $200 card they'd be willing to share? I need to build a casual gaming rig for under $400 for a clients' kid, but I don't play PC games, so I rarely sweat graphics cards.
650's aren't very good. If you want Nvidia, the 660Ti is really as low as one should go as far as games are concerned, but it looks like that falls outside of the price range (according to pcpartpicker.com). I personally use a 7870 and it works fine for all games I've touched on my 1600x1900 monitor at max settings, and while there is a significant difference between the 7850 and 7870, It looks to me like the 7850 is entirely fine for a 'casual gaming rig'.
 
I run dual 6850s but even a single one can max out any casual game. I can get 120+ FPS on max at 1080p on one card on Diablo 3.
 
Dual Radion 7970's, with an ASUS 1920x1080 display, and an Intel Core i7 960 processor OC'd to 4 Ghz, and 12 GBs of RAM (also over-clocked).

I work hard for the things I want. :mrgreen:
 
KawaiiChrisChan said:
Dual Radion 7970's, with an ASUS 1920x1080 display, and an Intel Core i7 960 processor OC'd to 4 Ghz, and 12 GBs of RAM (also over-clocked).

I work hard for the things I want. :mrgreen:

My CPU is a i5-2500k OCed to 4.7 ghz and 16 GB DDR3-1600 MHZ, stock speed but there is fuck all difference in gaming performance anyways.
 
After one day of use, I guess I'll just bring up a few things I've noticed about Win 8. This will be written in an incredibly simplistic style because I'm easily distracted by big technical terms and stuff. And none of this will be relevant to gaming because I'm not a PC gamer.

So far, the biggest change I've encountered is this:

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This replaces the start button. So start button--->start menu.

It's taking some getting used to, but see the desktop icon in the bottom left corner? It brings you to this:

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From there on out there's not a whole lot that's different from Win 7. I'm still trying to find my way around the whole start menu thing but it's not that hard to do.

Going back to the start menu, though, what takes up most of the screen? Apps, of course. This is not compatible with me because I don't use apps, and have never even heard of some of these. Aside from Microsoft Office there is literally not one of these apps I have ever used. However, this isn't a big issue for me because the whole app thing isn't really intrusive to what I'm usually up to. It tries to sell you on some apps the first time you open up a program like paint or IE or whatever but if you say no they don't bug you about it.

So what's good?

  • The search feature- It's smooth and fast. No complaints about it so far.
  • The start up wait - It doesn't take a day and a half to boot up from restarting or shutting down. Granted, this is the nicest computer I've had in a long time, but all my previous ones took at least five minutes to get fully going.
  • Memory usage - This is me coming off the heels of a laptop that ran Vista. I actually don't know how exactly Win 8 holds up in terms of memory usage but I have Pale Moon, SAI, AIM, the avast interface and a video going and it's eating 35% at most. Doing this on my old laptop would eat 80% if it was feeling happy.

So what's not so good?

  • Getting used to the start menu - As of right now I don't have any complaints beyond the mere fact I have to learn my way around it, but I hardly hate it. It's not an especially frustrating task, and there's more space to pin your icons. The apps clutter it but I can just ignore them.
  • Windows Media Player doesn't run dvds or video or something anymore - So I downloaded Media Player Classic and the K-Lite Codec pack. It fulfills my needs.
  • Everything new ever - This complaint is an entirely personal one. On my old laptop, the measures I took to keep it functioning at all involved stopping a bunch of services and drivers and disabling Windows Update so it didn't freak out. I had to do this several times and each time it was like bringing it back from the brink of no return. So now, installing updates or new drivers makes me very uneasy. It's a knee-jerk thing that I can't really help. I'm slightly worried that if something goes wrong I won't have access to as many resources to fix it given it's a new OS, but it's not an incredible worry at the moment.

Segueing into my next list,

Problems I've encountered
  • A strange beeping noise - I was worried at first because whenever I played a song or a video online, I'd hear this little blip of a noise every six seconds or so. It turned out to be a problem with the most recent Adobe Flash, so I downgraded to a slightly earlier version. Problem solved.
  • Constant ethernet disconnection - I use a cord, not wireless, so this was especially baffling/frustrating. It turned out it was Norton, which came pre-installed. I uninstalled it, installed avast. Problem solved.

Like I said, I've only been running Windows 8 for a day so these lists are fairly short. However, I should say it speaks to how well it's doing that I'm settling in nicely already. Maybe the computers I've had in the past were such messes that owning a desktop that I know how to manage well is blowing my mind. Either way, take my initial assessment for what it's worth.
 
Thanks for the schooling in GPUs! I just use whatever graphics are on the board. Unless they come installed on the system, I don't own any PC games except an unopened signed copy The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena (which is awesome, but I play it on PS3) and whatever my exes might have left behind.

So many problems I encounter with new PCs is solved by uninstalling the antivirus that comes pre-installed. It's not even a knock on the program (usually Norton), but it just seems like the pre-installed version is always gimped somehow. If I uninstall the copy of Norton or McAfee that came with, then reinstall it using the latest build from the manufacturer, it usually fixes the problem (though I have a tendency to always switch to Bitdefender, simply because that's what my clients use and I've since become familiar with it).

Can anyone recommend a Linux distro for a MAME arcade cabinet? I want to build my own sometime this year, since I mothballed most of my old consoles and carts. Puppy Arcade works, but I welcome other options and opinions.
 
This is the record I've seen here for the longest dead thread that got necro'd. Does anyone know of an even older one (that wasn't done for the record)?
 
I think it’s safe to say no
I guess people still don't want their desktop being like a phone.
If it had improved you'd think there would be posts in this thread within the last 10 years. How did you even find this?
Just go to page 156 and go backwords, none of the older threads lasted very long just shows how much bigger the site is now.
Has Microsoft had any "innovation" on any of there products actually work out well.
 
I never heard a single compelling reason to ditch Windows 7 for 8. I only moved up to 10 because 7 doesn't support NVMe drives, and Chromium was dropping support for 7 around the time I was upgrading anyway.

So, uh, yeah, 8 was worthless.
 
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