Culture Women's fencer opens up on refusing to face transgender opponent, accepting punishment and backlash - The female fencer says the issue has turned her from a lifelong Democrat to a conservative Republican

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Women's fencer Stephanie Turner took her mask off and got a knee in front of her transgender opponent.

Ahead of a bout at the Cherry Blossom Open in Maryland over the weekend, Turner, 31, made the decision not to compete against trans athlete Redmond Sullivan. And Turner also wanted to make sure her refusal was caught on video for the world to see.

Turner came to the decision the night before the event when she checked the competition pools and saw that she would be competing against Sullivan, whom she had read about in an article last year.

"I saw that I was going to be in a pool with Redmond, and from there I said, ‘OK, let’s do it. I'm going to take the knee,'" Turner told Fox News Digital.

Turner went through all her warm-ups that day and went on to fence in four bouts before her matchup with the trans athlete. When it came, she was "nervous and shaky," but was sure about her decision.

"I knew what I had to do because USA Fencing had not been listening to women's objections regarding [its gender eligibility policy]," Turner said.

"I took a knee immediately at that point. Redmond was under the impression that I was going to start fencing. So when I took the knee, I looked at the ref and I said, ‘I’m sorry, I cannot do this. I am a woman, and this is a man, and this is a women's tournament. And I will not fence this individual.'

"Redmond didn't hear me, and he comes up to me, and he thinks that I may be hurt, or he doesn't understand what's happening. He asks, ‘Are you OK?’ And I said, ‘I’m sorry. I have much love and respect for you, but I will not fence you."

And right after that, Turner's punishment by USA Fencing commenced.

"Redmond says to me, ‘Well you know, there is a member on the board of directors here who supports me, and there is a policy that acknowledges me as a woman, so I am allowed to fence, and you will get blackcarded,’ and I said, 'I know," Turner said.

Minutes later, the referees dealt Turner a black card, which represents the most severe penalty, leading to expulsion from the tournament or event for serious rule infractions or unsportsmanlike behavior.

Turner said she was then escorted to the bout committee where she had to explain what she did. She says the members then handed her a copy of the association's transgender policy and made her sign a document acknowledging the black card. Turner said she signed the document under objection.

Then, Turner was escorted out of the venue, she said.

USA Fencing provided a statement to Fox News Digital addressing the incident.

"USA Fencing enacted our current transgender and non-binary athlete policy in 2023. The policy was designed to expand access to the sport of fencing and create inclusive, safe spaces. The policy is based on the principle that everyone should have the ability to participate in sports and was based upon the research available of the day," the statement read.

"We respect the viewpoints on all sides and encourage our members to continue sharing them with us as the matter evolves. It's important for the fencing community to engage in this dialogue, but we expect this conversation to be conducted respectfully, whether at our tournaments or in online spaces. The way to progress is by respectful discussion based in evidence."

A USA Fencing spokesperson also told Fox News Digital that Turner was not penalized for her stance against trans inclusion, but simply for refusing to fence.

"In the case of Stephanie Turner, her disqualification was not related to any personal statement but was merely the direct result of her decision to decline to fence an eligible opponent, which the FIE rules clearly prohibit," the spokesperson said.

"According to the FIE (International Fencing Federation) Technical Rules, specifically Article t.113, a fencer is not permitted to refuse to fence another properly entered fencer for any reason. Under these rules, such a refusal results in disqualification and the corresponding sanctions. This policy exists to maintain fair competition standards and preserve the sport’s integrity."

Turner said she has not heard anything back from the organization since the incident.

It was an incident she had actively tried to avoid at prior events. Turner said she previously refused to enter multiple past fencing events that included other transgender fencers that she knew about. It's an issue that she made an effort to stay on top of for her own awareness and safety.

"In previous years when I had known about transgender fencers being present, I just wouldn't register, but for this one, Redmond must have signed up after me," Turner said.

"I was like, ‘You know what, I’m just going to give it to God. If this person shows up to my event and is on my script, then I would take a knee, and that would be God's will.'"

It was not a decision she came to lightly, however.

Turner paid close attention to the "protect women's sports" movement that has emerged in recent years, and the backlash and harassment faced by the women who took part in it. She recalled the story of Riley Gaines being held hostage and assaulted at San Francisco State University in April 2023.

The idea of the backlash haunted Turner, but wasn't enough to stop her from taking the knee.

"It will probably, at least for a moment, destroy my life. I don't think that it's going to be easy for me from now on going to fencing tournaments. I don't think it's going to be easy for me at practice," Turner said. "It's very hard for me to do this."

For Turner, one of the sacrifices she is most concerned about is impeding the friendships she has with people in the LGBT community, who she said don't currently know about her stance on the issue.

As a lifelong Democrat, Turner insists she never opposed LGBTQ people. But the issue of trans inclusion of women's sports has driven her away from supporting the party, and she now identifies as a "new Republican conservative."

"I voted red down the ticket this year," Turner said. "It was like waking up to the lies of the mainstream media… Just to watch so many of my friends have this glassy-eyed look while just defending this policy because their brains can not manage the possibility that their party or their position has been wrong on this, and perhaps this isn't a civil rights movement, and they have been misled."

Turner added that she fully supports President Donald Trump cutting funding to states that allow trans athletes to compete in women's and girls sports.

"Something needs to be done, and there are activists who have embedded themselves in authoritative positions in sports bodies."

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the members then handed her a copy of the association's transgender policy
USA Fencing provided a statement to Fox News Digital addressing the incident.

"USA Fencing enacted our current transgender and non-binary athlete policy in 2023. The policy was designed to expand access to the sport of fencing and create inclusive, safe spaces. The policy is based on the principle that everyone should have the ability to participate in sports and was based upon the research available of the day," the statement read.
A USA Fencing spokesperson also told Fox News Digital that Turner was not penalized for her stance against trans inclusion, but simply for refusing to fence
Here's your copy of our trans policies, but remember this has nothing to do with our trans policies.
 
This is an article by one "Damien Lehfeldt", Director of "USAFencing".


He believes: "There is a possibility that transgender women have a physical advantage over their cisgender opponents after transitioning. There is also a possibility they do not."

He also believes: "Giving athletes a sense of belonging and a will to live is more powerful than medals and competitive glory."

His article expresses the view that it's more important that trans-identifying men feel validated and included than who wins. As he puts it: "Inclusion Above All Else".

This is "Coach Lehfeldt" on the left.
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Troons: Why don't you focus on the stock market instead!!!
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Men can't really solve this.
Men have been against this from the very beginning, so it's not their responsibility. The transgender movement has always been overwhelmingly female. A decade of constant warnings have fallen on deaf ears. It's time for women to unshit their own beds while they're still allowed to do so without going to prison, assuming they live in one of the countries where it's not too late to do so. And if they don't, well, it's the future they chose.
 
Could it be because those who tried to warn before it, were the same who tell women to go back to the kitchen and make them a sandwich, and apply collective guilt to them, not seeing them as individuals, so they did not find them worth listening?

Could it be, because (mostly male-owned media) kept spamming people with Deep human stories about tormented trannies, who are the most unhappy demographics that ever walked the earth, fear their own reflection in the mirror and immensely suffer every time they have to piss, cos they have to interact with own dick, and their only choice is either 41% or getting the amhole?
 
Could it be because those who tried to warn before it, were the same who tell women to go back to the kitchen and make them a sandwich, and apply collective guilt to them, not seeing them as individuals, so they did not find them worth listening?
"You were right about the trannies that are downstream of our feminist ideology, but you're still wrong about everything else"

Ok
 
Men have been against this from the very beginning, so it's not their responsibility
Responsibility or not, when I see a man abusing a woman I have a few million years of evolution telling me to go and help her. I am in harmony with my nature. What puts me out of harmony with my nature is when I know helping her out will have her denouncing me in court afterwards. Same with men in women's toilets. Most groups of guys would be more than happy to grab some pervert who'd gone into their toilets and drag him out again. But we can't do that when the women themselves are standing there shouting "leave him her alone! He's allowed to be in here."
 
"You were right about the trannies that are downstream of our feminist ideology, but you're still wrong about everything else"

Ok
Ordinary women who were fed Deep human stories of those who pretend to understand women but not other men, weren't even aware trannies came from the woman-hating coom-brained side of the internet, because they don't visit such places - why would they do that? There's all woman-hate, you know.
I never bought their shit about being trapped in a wrong body, but I can imagine many are sympathetic, because "Nobody believes my depression, I should be better than that and take other people's mental health issues seriously". Also they weren't a thing, until they suddenly were.
I don't blame them much. First, the worst insults I ever got for shitting on queers, were from men, second, anyone's peak trans moment might be right around the corner.
 
Men have been against this from the very beginning, so it's not their responsibility. The transgender movement has always been overwhelmingly female. A decade of constant warnings have fallen on deaf ears. It's time for women to unshit their own beds while they're still allowed to do so without going to prison, assuming they live in one of the countries where it's not too late to do so. And if they don't, well, it's the future they chose.
lol
The transgender movement began with gay male transvestites. They started it, and they're the ones who overwhelmingly perpetuate it. Pooners and libfems may be very outspoken and aggressive on the internet, but the reality is that most of them are too meek to do shit / confront people irl. When it comes to real-world activism and legislative action, it is male trannies who are doing the most heavy lifting for the movement. Of course, if you spend most of your time online, you probably have a warped perception.
The LGBTQ+ club at my college is run by a male tranny in his mid twenties, and I'm fairly certain it's also made up mostly of males. When I participated in a class debate on this very topic, the three people to voice disagreement with my argument were straight liberal dudes.
I have been more outspoken about trans-related shit than any male in my life for as long as I can remember.
Do not turn this shit into a retarded boys vs. girls debate. If you think it's unfair when certain women try to lump all males into one group, then don't do the same thing to women. There has always been a significant number of women in opposition to the transgender movement. Do not try to pretend that isn't the case just so you can have an excuse to shit on the feeemales.

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, this woman did a commendable job. She got people talking, didn't she? And that's the most important thing. The more attention it receives, the better. Whether or not she should've been more direct with her wording is besides the point.
 
When I participated in a class debate on this very topic, the three people to voice disagreement with my argument were straight liberal dudes.
Not trying to discredit your experience, but I've had a radically different experience in similar environments. Back when I thought debate was productive (I was an optimist) I frequently participated in class debates about things like males in dresses participating in female sports. The overwhelming backlash I received was from upper-class white females with zero experience in sports.
I've had so many debates on this topic, and I've run across a shocking amount of (almost always white) women who express the belief that any purported differences between male and female is "patriarchal propaganda." The only difference seems to be genital and that society exclusively shits on one of them.
Again, I'm not trying to say you're wrong, I don't doubt that plenty of feminist guys will parrot whatever talking point they think will make it easier to rape women, but a lot of white women, by virtue of their cloistered existences, argue in favor of this too. Of course, there are plenty of women against it, but they tend to be in sports and they tend to keep their mouths shut, I guess to keep their scholarships.
 
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