Culture Women's fencer opens up on refusing to face transgender opponent, accepting punishment and backlash - The female fencer says the issue has turned her from a lifelong Democrat to a conservative Republican

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Women's fencer Stephanie Turner took her mask off and got a knee in front of her transgender opponent.

Ahead of a bout at the Cherry Blossom Open in Maryland over the weekend, Turner, 31, made the decision not to compete against trans athlete Redmond Sullivan. And Turner also wanted to make sure her refusal was caught on video for the world to see.

Turner came to the decision the night before the event when she checked the competition pools and saw that she would be competing against Sullivan, whom she had read about in an article last year.

"I saw that I was going to be in a pool with Redmond, and from there I said, ‘OK, let’s do it. I'm going to take the knee,'" Turner told Fox News Digital.

Turner went through all her warm-ups that day and went on to fence in four bouts before her matchup with the trans athlete. When it came, she was "nervous and shaky," but was sure about her decision.

"I knew what I had to do because USA Fencing had not been listening to women's objections regarding [its gender eligibility policy]," Turner said.

"I took a knee immediately at that point. Redmond was under the impression that I was going to start fencing. So when I took the knee, I looked at the ref and I said, ‘I’m sorry, I cannot do this. I am a woman, and this is a man, and this is a women's tournament. And I will not fence this individual.'

"Redmond didn't hear me, and he comes up to me, and he thinks that I may be hurt, or he doesn't understand what's happening. He asks, ‘Are you OK?’ And I said, ‘I’m sorry. I have much love and respect for you, but I will not fence you."

And right after that, Turner's punishment by USA Fencing commenced.

"Redmond says to me, ‘Well you know, there is a member on the board of directors here who supports me, and there is a policy that acknowledges me as a woman, so I am allowed to fence, and you will get blackcarded,’ and I said, 'I know," Turner said.

Minutes later, the referees dealt Turner a black card, which represents the most severe penalty, leading to expulsion from the tournament or event for serious rule infractions or unsportsmanlike behavior.

Turner said she was then escorted to the bout committee where she had to explain what she did. She says the members then handed her a copy of the association's transgender policy and made her sign a document acknowledging the black card. Turner said she signed the document under objection.

Then, Turner was escorted out of the venue, she said.

USA Fencing provided a statement to Fox News Digital addressing the incident.

"USA Fencing enacted our current transgender and non-binary athlete policy in 2023. The policy was designed to expand access to the sport of fencing and create inclusive, safe spaces. The policy is based on the principle that everyone should have the ability to participate in sports and was based upon the research available of the day," the statement read.

"We respect the viewpoints on all sides and encourage our members to continue sharing them with us as the matter evolves. It's important for the fencing community to engage in this dialogue, but we expect this conversation to be conducted respectfully, whether at our tournaments or in online spaces. The way to progress is by respectful discussion based in evidence."

A USA Fencing spokesperson also told Fox News Digital that Turner was not penalized for her stance against trans inclusion, but simply for refusing to fence.

"In the case of Stephanie Turner, her disqualification was not related to any personal statement but was merely the direct result of her decision to decline to fence an eligible opponent, which the FIE rules clearly prohibit," the spokesperson said.

"According to the FIE (International Fencing Federation) Technical Rules, specifically Article t.113, a fencer is not permitted to refuse to fence another properly entered fencer for any reason. Under these rules, such a refusal results in disqualification and the corresponding sanctions. This policy exists to maintain fair competition standards and preserve the sport’s integrity."

Turner said she has not heard anything back from the organization since the incident.

It was an incident she had actively tried to avoid at prior events. Turner said she previously refused to enter multiple past fencing events that included other transgender fencers that she knew about. It's an issue that she made an effort to stay on top of for her own awareness and safety.

"In previous years when I had known about transgender fencers being present, I just wouldn't register, but for this one, Redmond must have signed up after me," Turner said.

"I was like, ‘You know what, I’m just going to give it to God. If this person shows up to my event and is on my script, then I would take a knee, and that would be God's will.'"

It was not a decision she came to lightly, however.

Turner paid close attention to the "protect women's sports" movement that has emerged in recent years, and the backlash and harassment faced by the women who took part in it. She recalled the story of Riley Gaines being held hostage and assaulted at San Francisco State University in April 2023.

The idea of the backlash haunted Turner, but wasn't enough to stop her from taking the knee.

"It will probably, at least for a moment, destroy my life. I don't think that it's going to be easy for me from now on going to fencing tournaments. I don't think it's going to be easy for me at practice," Turner said. "It's very hard for me to do this."

For Turner, one of the sacrifices she is most concerned about is impeding the friendships she has with people in the LGBT community, who she said don't currently know about her stance on the issue.

As a lifelong Democrat, Turner insists she never opposed LGBTQ people. But the issue of trans inclusion of women's sports has driven her away from supporting the party, and she now identifies as a "new Republican conservative."

"I voted red down the ticket this year," Turner said. "It was like waking up to the lies of the mainstream media… Just to watch so many of my friends have this glassy-eyed look while just defending this policy because their brains can not manage the possibility that their party or their position has been wrong on this, and perhaps this isn't a civil rights movement, and they have been misled."

Turner added that she fully supports President Donald Trump cutting funding to states that allow trans athletes to compete in women's and girls sports.

"Something needs to be done, and there are activists who have embedded themselves in authoritative positions in sports bodies."

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so where were the women speaking out against it from the start? troons didn't became a thing over night everywhere, there's plenty of other letters of the LGBQ alphabet able to say they want no part in it. instead they decided to be all big happy club to fight "intolerance" and other libshit buzzwords.

they could've said right from the start this is too much, instead now they have to suck the girlpenis. but it's the fault of who again?
In fairness some radfems were, the problem is they're misandrist cat ladies who are so unlikeable they were easy to disregard. Weirdly though a lot of this has its roots in radfem and postmodern leftism so they couldn't quite throw the baby out with the bath water. One of the few who was actually likeable, Germain Greer, was bullied into shutting up by other stripes of feminists for saying a mutilated man could never be a woman.

Gender being a social construct, sex differents being nuture not nature. A lot of that we have thanks to the radfems.

They're pretty much the old men wandering around the gulag complaining that there had been a mistake and if only Comrade Stalin knew they would be back in good standing.
 
Men have been against this from the very beginning, so it's not their responsibility. The transgender movement has always been overwhelmingly female. A decade of constant warnings have fallen on deaf ears. It's time for women to unshit their own beds while they're still allowed to do so without going to prison, assuming they live in one of the countries where it's not too late to do so. And if they don't, well, it's the future they chose.
Trans women are men.
 
so where were the women speaking out against it from the start? troons didn't became a thing over night everywhere, there's plenty of other letters of the LGBQ alphabet able to say they want no part in it. instead they decided to be all big happy club to fight "intolerance" and other libshit buzzwords.

they could've said right from the start this is too much, instead now they have to suck the girlpenis. but it's the fault of who again?
2nd wave feminists (including lesbian feminists, mind you) were writing and publishing critiques on transvestism and drag queen culture as early as the '60s.
In other words, while gay men were busy glorifying drag and transvestite culture, lesbians were the first and only ones in the gay """community""" at the time to take issue with it.

That's not to say that lesbians (or radical feminists, for that matter) are perfect saints, or that women didn't play a role in pushing alphabet soup ideology into the mainstream--they absolutely did, and they still do. But it's disingenuous as fuck to pin this trans shit entirely on women when women--specifically radical feminists--were the ones most passionately against it in the first place.

Also, other than the radical feminists and lesbians, you can safely assume that the conservative women of the time ('60s and '70s, when trans shit was really starting to pick up steam in underground leftist circles) were no less against it than their male counterparts lol.

Why can't we just agree that the movement was started by stupid degenerates and is perpetuated by stupid degenerates, and leave it at that? Infighting is tiring. I came to this thread wanting us all to hold hands and sing Kumbaya and mock trannies' appearances together in peace.

I guess hoping for male-female solidarity in the current year was retarded and overly optimistic of me. My bad!
 
First time here?

Don’t worry, the Jews will be blamed next.

Then floride in the water.
Oh shit the actual fuck up.

There's an entire documented history of how various women were either anti, skeptical to anti, or peaked from whatever state of liberal to full terf.

For the same fucking reason you shouldn't use your work email and real name to register kiwi farms do you not entirely hear about the average quiet terf who votes for sanity, and probably tries to protect her kids and community to the degree she can.

Not everyone has the fuck you money to lead the charge against this shit, including the men.

There's an entire woman hate thread for this bullshit so feel free to wander that way.

Back to the goddamn topic, this woman is based. Kind by any sane definition, not hateful, just absolutely fucking resolute.
 
For Turner, one of the sacrifices she is most concerned about is impeding the friendships she has with people in the LGBT community, who she said don't currently know about her stance on the issue.

As a lifelong Democrat, Turner insists she never opposed LGBTQ people. But the issue of trans inclusion of women's sports has driven her away from supporting the party, and she now identifies as a "new Republican conservative."
Woman moment. Zero actual principles, just following the herd until her faghagging reaches its inevitable consequences.
 
I know. But they're supposed to be good at sticking together and cohesion. Where is the fucking solidarity and group action that could have put a stop to this?

Also, what @World Famous Quasi Payer just said.
Women that stood up to invading tribes were killed throughout history. It's no surprise to me, sadly.
men and woman rarely fence each other (outside of practice) because as a man its very easy to accidentally hurt a woman due to strength differences. Trannys need to stop trying to get into sports.
Trannies like Fallon Fox show that trannies get off on beating women in every single way.
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, this woman did a commendable job. She got people talking, didn't she? And that's the most important thing.
A male way of fighting this won't work so women are on their own. She handled this the right way.
 

This fat homo, Council of Geeks, is very upset that the BBC dared report on this story, because it isn't even a British news story! No doubt the evil TERF Islanders were so desperate to slander poor innocent trans girls who just want to poke women with pointy objects that they had to go all the way out to the far off, exotic wilds of... Maryland.

He is seemingly ignorant of the fact that not only does the BBC not just cover British news, being as it a global news organisation, but that this story is, in fact, newsworthy and of interest to a large percentage of the population. Because nobody likes you, tranny. Get out of women's sports.
 
For Turner, one of the sacrifices she is most concerned about is impeding the friendships she has with people in the LGBT community
Turner paid close attention to the "protect women's sports" movement that has emerged in recent years, and the backlash and harassment faced by the women who took part in it. She recalled the story of Riley Gaines being held hostage and assaulted at San Francisco State University in April 2023.
"I voted red down the ticket this year," Turner said. "It was like waking up to the lies of the mainstream media…
As a lifelong Democrat, Turner insists she never opposed LGBTQ people. But the issue of trans inclusion of women's sports has driven her away from supporting the party, and she now identifies as a "new Republican conservative."
so this is a woman who still wants to have friendships with her terminally online female friends and fag male friends that she accessorizes her life with like jewelry but after seeing how much attention other women were getting for speaking out about trannies she's unable to fight the temptation of getting lots of attention for taking a knee in a sport no one watches and giving opinions that are safe since they've recently become the opinion of the majority

woman moment
 
so this is a woman who still wants to have friendships with her terminally online female friends and fag male friends that she accessorizes her life with like jewelry but after seeing how much attention other women were getting for speaking out about trannies she's unable to fight the temptation of getting lots of attention for taking a knee in a sport no one watches and giving opinions that are safe since they've recently become the opinion of the majority

woman moment
Mate, didn't you read the cat ladies in this thread? Womxn have been at the forefront of fighting this and they are the hero and the victim, but never the villain except when they are, at the same time and they don't need no man.
 
"Redmond didn't hear me, and he comes up to me, and he thinks that I may be hurt, or he doesn't understand what's happening. He asks, ‘Are you OK?’ And I said, ‘I’m sorry. I have much love and respect for you, but I will not fence you."
Why the fuck why? Why would you say you love and respect him when he immediately tells you he'll try to get you banned? This is how you know trannies don't want to be sportsmanlike. He's more concerned about his feelings than being the better person. He doesn't give a shit about facing women fairly he wants to dominate them.
 
I wanna do a MMA fight with a woman but like, instead of punching her, just putting her on the ground and doing three stooges sounds over and over while asking how much she can bench.
I want to meet a woman who will stand by my side in the event of a gigantic monkey poop throwing war.

Probably never going to happen but a man can dream.
 
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