Would a demon actually cheat a human in a deal? - A schizo post

[Sneedenhagen Chew]

Go! White people! Go out and zap to the extreme!

We will! Thank you, Mother!

 

[Male Idiot]

I am just thinking that if all this baloney was real, why would any god choose jews as his or her chosen.

Like, there is this worshipper store in the clouds. Like a holy pet store.

Odin walks in, sees vikings, they are metal and bloody and he takes them.
Zeus walks in, likes romans and greeks, he'll take both.
So come all gods and goddesses.

Yahweh is late to the store, rushes in before closing.
Sees happy merchants are the only ones not sold out already, a basket full of giant noses and kvetching. Cthulhu bought out the last of the nautical negros.

Yeah I'll choose these. They love eating baby cocks, cheating everyone, they wouldn't lawyer me would they? What could possibly go wrong?

And all the other gods on Olympos Farms got a lot to laugh about, and Yahweh is like the pitmommy of gods, trying to balldoguard the worst set of believers while the others look at him with pity, disgust or laugh at the whole fiasco.

They are nanny people, really! Its how you raise them! -YWH.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

No, they are very legalistic and will always uphold their side of whatever they are offering. It is worth more than anything else in existence to demons to get someone to give their will and soul to them freely. They're happy to give you what they promised because the reward for them is worth more than even their own existence.

Permanently separating a soul from God is their greatest victory.

It is also worth noting that you can’t actually sell your soul, because it isn’t yours to sell to begin with. It would be like trying to sell your neighbor’s car without their permission. It belongs to God and it would be erroneous to imply that demons are somehow more capable than God in claiming or ‘owning’ something, especially a rational soul made in His image. That doesn’t minimize the very real possibility of damnation as a consequence of trying to do something so blasphemous (if you’re totally and utterly unrepentant) but you can’t really sell it.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

It is also worth noting that you can’t actually sell your soul, because it isn’t yours to sell to begin with. It would be like trying to sell your neighbor’s car without their permission. It belongs to God and it would be erroneous to imply that demons are somehow more capable than God in claiming or ‘owning’ something, especially a rational soul made in His image. That doesn’t minimize the very real possibility of damnation as a consequence of trying to do something so blasphemous (if you’re totally and utterly unrepentant) but you can’t really sell it.

Correct, all you are really doing is committing grave sin and separating yourself from God as a result of it. The sins involved in "selling your soul" to a demon will be completely wiped away by God through confession and absolution. There is nothing God cannot forgive if we repent.

Possession itself is only possible after an extended process or, very rarely, among saints for unknown reasons permitted by God. It never happens by accident or through casual consent of your will and is never complete however. The person can always fight back and cooperate with God to turn the tide.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I saw several mentions to Rekieta in this thread.

Like, is this something he actually did, or claimed he did? Or just a meme like the sonichu medallion (which I legit think is demonic) having ruined him?

Genuinely curious.

 

[WonderWino]

Well yeah, their demons, their all evil and shit.
They have no obligation to be fair with their deals and will always try to find a loophole into fucking with you or taking your soul.

Its a battle of contextualization.

You try to make a wish that in no way shape or form the devil can "accidently" misinterpret, while the devil will try to find a loophole in your words.

Watch the Wishmaster series, their very fucking bad and cheesy movies but they are a fun way of exploring the concept.

Ehh wishmaster was bizarre in how that worked. Mainly for trying to pull shit where people neither knew what was going on or really consented to selling their soul for a wish when they obviously weren't even serious in the first place. None of it really made any sense. It was basically the same as sarcastically nodding and sarcastically saying yeah sure to some random person on the street when they ask if you'd like an expensive luxury car and suddenly the guy turns out to be a demonic car salesman and instantly makes a car appear and says 'oh by the way I own your soul now'

Twisting a wish you knew you were getting into with semantics is one thing, but most of the people involved in those deals had no idea what they were doing in the first place and weren't seriously offering anything

That said, if anything supernaturals take on demon deals makes the most sense. They make a legitimate deal and stand by it, flat out saying that demon or not its still about making a deal and nobody is going to trust anybody enough to make a deal once word gets around that you don't deliver as promised or fuck your customers over, and thats bad for business

Honestly I just don't want to ever witness anything with multiple limbs, eyes, claws, or any other kind of abomination ever pop up in or around my home.

Thats why you shouldn't date cat ladies or women heading in the direction of becoming cat ladies

 

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

I'm picturing a scenario very similar/akin to Gimmicks Three, by Isaac Asimov. For the most part, you'd get something you wanted, but your soul would be tied to a contract, and even though majority-wise, Demons are known to be devious, but the binding contract thing is their one bit of honesty. But there's often a cruel twist involved, based off literal thinking/wordedness, a bit similar to like how the Djinn from Wishmaster works, or Mephisto from Ghost Rider.

In Gimmicks Three, though, the guy manages to get round the contract: I think he died in World War II, and ended up in some limbo dimension, in a room, and somehow manages to figure out the weird dimensions, and escape, which makes it so he's able to go back, survive World War II, settle down, and eventually, the Demon he signed the contract with turns up in his office, and says time is up, basically, and he has to go back to "Limbo" (can't remember where/what the place was), but the guy reveals that, due to changing the events that brought him to the Demon, he never signed the contract... I think.

Long-windedness over, this is a case of a Human cheating a Demon out of a deal, when the devious Demon thought he could easily ensnare him. And, although I've mentioned this story on What Have You Been Reading Recently, I thought it'd be interesting and fitting to mention it here, and also drop off this page about it:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/GimmicksThree