Trashfire WPATH Medical Documents Leak

[Positron]

41% is self reported suicidal ideation, not actual suicide/attempt stats as well.

41% is the self-report figure for attempts, not just ideation.

And please use the A&N thread for your observation of WPATH Files.

 

[WULULULULU]

Killing troons is not enough, for even in death they smell horrible. Liquefaction cannot come soon enough.

 

[Pedophobe]

What's up with all the typos and spelling mistakes in the leaked documents? "Dear Colleges" "developped". Is it ESL?

78% of WPATH members are US-based.

 

[bile demon]

No refunds.

 

[Poonocchio]

41% is the self-report figure for attempts, not just ideation.

And please use the A&N thread for your observation of WPATH Files.

Thanks for the correction.

@chiobu /jannies could do with relinking the featured post to that A&N one.

 

[Hyperbolic Steroids]

Limpdick author won't link to the pdf though.

I think it's incredibly optimistic to think that the average NY Post reader would read the PDF, unfortunately.

Meh. The matter will die in a few days for sure. Like you said, it will circulate among conservative groups but if spread out it will be seen as a hoax and conspiracy theory, after all, "there are no children receiving massive doses of hormones" nor being mutilated. It's only an anti-trans-children hate promoted by neofascists as usual.

Unfortunately agreed, every other instance of trannies doing insane and inane bullshit has been hand waved away prior to this. What makes this any different? I think we'd have to see something utterly damning and insane (like a photograph of drag queens mutilating children's genitals) enter circulation before the more brainwashed people start to break the conditioning. Even then they'd have to actually do something to push back against it.

 

[chiobu]

While I can move threads from Stinkditch to other forums, I cannot take threads from other forums to Stinkditch. The best way to communicate this is to make a report on the first post of the thread explaining what you would like to be done.

Made a report, thank you.

 

[Mike Stoklasas Spock Ears]

What's up with all the typos and spelling mistakes in the leaked documents? "Dear Colleges" "developped". Is it ESL?

Call up your primary care provider and request your medical records. Then take a look at the clinical notes. You will see that despite their reputation of being “smart,” some doctors are borderline illiterate.

 

[AngryTreeRat]

Breaking news: troons are gay pedos

That's offensive to gay pedos. Sure, they are the worst of the human race, but they aren't inhuman monsters. Apologize to the gay pedos for the slander of equating them with troons.

Edit to avoid double post:

What's up with all the typos and spelling mistakes in the leaked documents? "Dear Colleges" "developped". Is it ESL?

No proof reading. Typically doctors only write for their own records and they fall out of proof reading habits.

 

[Lowlife Adventures]

Michael Shellenberger is someone that I haven't heard about for some years - the guy is an environmentalist who supports nuclear energy and has spoke about the climate alarmism hysteria and the corruption in the climate research organizations. in 2020 there was a brief uproar in media because he dared to criticize publicly the mainstream narrative of global warming with his book Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All. I think it's very impressive that Shellenberger also tries to fight againt the trans activism but because of his status, it's very likely that media will try to discredit the story by just pointing the fingers at him saying "He's just a conspiracy theory [feel free to add more ad hominem here] climate change denier nuclear energy shill!"

Not to mention calling out San Francisco's insane drug & homelessness policies. It's relieving to hear about someone based about so many things because it seems like usually people who are based with respect to one thing still have blind spots (ex. Jesse Singal rightly calling out trans insanity yet not realizing Aella the "rationalist" is a pseudointellectual hack)

 

[Balr0g]

Killing troons is not enough, for even in death they smell horrible. Liquefaction cannot come soon enough.

Firing them into a black hole should do the trick. Alternatively send them to Venus: the toxic atmosphere there should be fitting

 

[Public Disrespector]

goddamn, this needs more attention!

Also, Shellenberger's story arc is something else. He was born a Mennonite, rebelled against his parents to become an uber-lib working for Soros, realized that the man was the devil and everything he worked for was wrong, married, had kids, converted back to Christianity, and has made it his life's mission to stop his former compatriots ever since.

Given how doggedly he has been on this since long before he got mainstream attention, I really feel like he saw something that changed him.

 

[GiveMeTheMoney]

I saw this in the main twitter thread. Isn't it pretty weird how good ol' Billy is putting money into these specific groups?

 

[Hassou Tobi]

It begins

 

[Lowlife Adventures]

It begins
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I wonder what these people would consider an actual credible source.
"Don't trust this negative thing being said about our sacred cow unless it comes from the approved™ sources. But also, anyone who says anything negative should be fired from these established & approved™ news agencies."

Like it's deliberately set up to be a lose-lose situation for anyone who dares to criticize.

 

[AfghanBlue]

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#transjoy

I dunno why they keep the tifs on T indefinitely. They could take it, get their frog voice and tash, and stop, and it's not like the changes would reverse. Testosterone is a one way street (as MTF troons demonstrate)

They don't want to stop taking it because it's a buzz, but it surely can't be worth the risk of Locked In Poonerism.
They'd be safer getting on smack.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Source? I'm fully willing to believe that, knowing what I do about Magnus Hirschfeld and John Money's "research" but still would like to read this before adding it to my list of easy talking points

I believe they are referring to "the eunuch archives", linked by WPATH on their website, possibly still, certainly in the past and it remains as a reference in some of their pdfs.

I'll let you look both the site and the files up yourself.

 

[Snekpilled]

I wonder what these people would consider an actual credible source.

One that tells them what they want to hear.

 

[monstrous bubo]

The UK’s reliably trans-sceptical paper The Telegraph has covered this, and pulled out a genuinely horrifying story.

Another said they would go ahead with a double mastectomy (called “top surgery”) on a 16-year-old girl even though hormones had likely given her liver cancer.

“The oncologist and surgeon both have indicated that the likely offending agent(s) are the hormones,” the doctor wrote. “We are prepared to support the patient in any way we can (e.g. top surgery when medically stable, etc).”

The full text is spoilered.

Spoiler

Doctors admit link between transgender hormone therapy and cancer in leaked emails​

WPATH files show patients did not always understand the consequences of gender reassignment

Daniel Martin, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR5 March 2024 • 7:00am


Doctors on a leading transgender healthcare body have admitted that patients have developed cancer owing to the effects of hormone treatment.
Leaked emails show other medical professionals admitting that trans patients do not always understand the consequences of gender reassignment.

The cache of files from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), which sets guidelines that have influenced NHS treatment, show that doctors are carrying out life-changing surgery and prescribing puberty blockers even though they are aware the adults and children may not fully understand the long-term ramifications.

One doctor talked about a transgender person who died of cancer as a result of his hormone treatment.

“I have one transition friend/colleague who, after about eight to 10 years of [testosterone] developed hepatocarcinoma [a form of liver cancer],” the doctor wrote.

“To the best of my knowledge, it was linked to his hormone treatment… it was so advanced that he opted for palliative care and died a couple of months later.”

It’s not clear from the documents if the person who died was made aware or knew about the side effect.

‘Living (presumably) happily ever after’​

Another said they would go ahead with a double mastectomy (called “top surgery”) on a 16-year-old girl even though hormones had likely given her liver cancer.

“The oncologist and surgeon both have indicated that the likely offending agent(s) are the hormones,” the doctor wrote. “We are prepared to support the patient in any way we can (e.g. top surgery when medically stable, etc).”

A gender therapist said they had only turned one person down for treatment in 15 years.
“I have also intervened on behalf of people who have been diagnosed with major depressive disorder, complex post-traumatic stress disorder, homeless and got at least an orchiectomy [testicle removal],” they said.

“In the last 15 years, I had to regrettably decline writing only one letter, mainly because the person evaluated was in active psychosis and hallucinated during the assessment session.

“Other than that – nothing – everyone got their assessment letter, insurance approval, and are living (presumably) happily ever after.”

A number of doctors admitted that their patients often did not understand the ramifications of hormone treatment or surgery – such as developing facial hair.

A child psychologist said in a leaked email featured in the report: “[It is] out of their developmental range to understand the extent to which some of these medical interventions are impacting them.
“They’ll say they understand, but then they’ll say something else that makes you think, oh, they didn’t really understand that they are going to have facial hair.”

‘Neither science nor medicine’​

The contents of the forum was leaked to Michael Shellenberger, a US writer and journalist.

“The WPATH Files show that what is called ‘gender medicine’ is neither science nor medicine,” he said.

“The experiments are not randomised, double-blind, or controlled. It’s not medicine since the first rule is to do no harm. And that requires informed consent.

“Activist members of WPATH know that the so-called ‘gender-affirming care’ they provide can result in life-long complications and sterility and that their patients do not understand the implications, such as loss of sexual function and the ability to experience orgasm.

“These leaked files show overwhelming evidence that the professionals within WPATH know that they are not getting consent from children, adolescents, and vulnerable adults, or their caregivers.”
WPATH is made up of doctors, psychologists, therapists and activists and although it has some UK members it is based in the US. It is best known for its “standards of care” guidelines which the NHS in England was previously aligned with. Scotland still is.

WPATH was approached for comment

 

[Craniometrista]

Holy shit what a horrifying thread. I never dished out so many of the same stickers on a single reading.
I'm with some of the more blackpilled kiwis ITT; its not going to convince and/or open the eyes of anyone that isn't already aware of the true nature of the tranny agenda. It's a drop in a bucket, sure, and the bucket is getting full, but there isn't going to be an explosion of anti-trans sentiment. It may sound like a retarted comparision, but when it all blows over, it'll be like COVID – in a moment, the most important thing in the world, the next, something that happened last year. The control of context in the mainstream media outlets is too big for it to let something slip out of the narrative.
Lastly,

"They might not be binary, but hormones are binary."

I feel vindicated by reading this. The ultimate enby deniers are the same doctors that push changing sex as something attainable.