Infected Wrong Planet

[Pointless Pedant]

That...actually sucks. They seem to have that sort of mentality on there.

Autists are basically like white supremacists' stereotype of black people, but real. Most black people are employed and support themselves in real life, but autists are happy to live off taxpayers' money while moaning at "neurotypicals" for not catering to their every whim while keeping them alive.

This makes the overlap between autists and white supremacists hilarious.

 

[LagoonaBlue]

Autists are basically like white supremacists' stereotype of black people, but real. Most black people are employed and support themselves in real life, but autists are happy to live off taxpayers' money while moaning at "neurotypicals" for not catering to their every whim while keeping them alive.

This makes the overlap between autists and white supremacists hilarious.

I know plenty of people with 'tism in full time employment.

It's the tumblr autists that won't get a job. I remember reading a post in the actuallyautistic tag where someone with tumblr 'tism bemoaned the fact that Temple Grandin suggested that autistic people who were higher functioning should have jobs.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I know plenty of people with 'tism in full time employment.

It's the tumblr autists that won't get a job. I remember reading a post in the actuallyautistic tag where someone with tumblr 'tism bemoaned the fact that Temple Grandin suggested that autistic people who were higher functioning should have jobs.

I see. I just remember reading that autists have a lower employment rate than other kinds of exceptional individuals, let alone the general population.

 

[EudaimonianNiche]

I see. I just remember reading that autists have a lower employment rate than other kinds of exceptional individuals, let alone the general population.

They do. Although I don't think that's because of them being lazy and feckless. Jobs place a massive emphasis on soft skills nowadays, and most autists don't pass the cut and usually end up crashing and burning at the interview stage. I've definitely seen my fair share of lazy, feckless, and entitled autists, but there are many who do try but find themselves failing due to their inability to cope with common stressors and lack of cognitive empathy.

Autists aren't necessarily happy to live off of taxpayer money. It's just that they're ill-equipped to deal with the demands and expectations of society.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

They do. Although I don't think that's because of them being lazy and feckless. Jobs place a massive emphasis on soft skills nowadays, and most autists don't pass the cut and usually end up crashing and burning at the interview stage. I've definitely seen my fair share of lazy, feckless, and entitled autists, but there are many who do try but find themselves failing due to their inability to cope with common stressors and lack of cognitive empathy.

Autists aren't necessarily happy to live off of taxpayer money. It's just that they're ill-equipped to deal with the demands and expectations of society.

The threshold of employability is pretty low. Even some of the zoosadists have real jobs, and they're batshit insane, though not necessarily autistic or mentally exceptional. I can't imagine any of them have good social skills, though.

I understand that the more badly affected ones who are pretty much adult children and throw temper tantrums when they hear loud noises are pretty much unemployable, but it annoys me to see some of them crowing about how "high functioning" they are while apparently not being high functioning enough to work in a warehouse.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Those spergs banned me for telling them they need to spend more time training, saying their prayers and eating their vitamins

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

The threshold of employability is pretty low. Even some of the zoosadists have real jobs, and they're batshit insane, though not necessarily autistic or mentally exceptional. I can't imagine any of them have good social skills, though.

I understand that the more badly affected ones who are pretty much adult children and throw temper tantrums when they hear loud noises are pretty much unemployable, but it annoys me to see some of them crowing about how "high functioning" they are while apparently not being high functioning enough to work in a warehouse.

tumblr autists are from upper middle class families where people have well paying non-warehouse-type jobs. they're mad that they're not qualified to do a well paying non-warehouse-type job. these are the same people who will talk about how hard college is for autistics and then retroactively diagnose phd-having scientists with asperger's.

 

[MysticMisty]

I understand that the more badly affected ones who are pretty much adult children and throw temper tantrums when they hear loud noises are pretty much unemployable, but it annoys me to see some of them crowing about how "high functioning" they are while apparently not being high functioning enough to work in a warehouse.

Because they're the ones who lose their shit if you try to correct them in any sort of way, because their parents/the internet (or both) taught them that everybody who doesn't lick your butt 24/7 is a discriminating, ableist shitlord who specifically hates autistics (and only autistics). Be it moving boxes around warehouses, working as a cashier in a store, wiping down tables in a restaurant (fast food or sit down), or any kind of work in an office, the moment their boss has any kind of criticism for them they'll lose their shit and get fired. Word will get around and nobody will hire them no matter how much they need that diversity hire quota. Even though there should be nothing preventing them from working, the personalities that build around that mindset make them unemployable.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

tumblr autists are from upper middle class families where people have well paying non-warehouse-type jobs. they're mad that they're not qualified to do a well paying non-warehouse-type job. these are the same people who will talk about how hard college is for autistics and then retroactively diagnose phd-having scientists with asperger's.

There probably were a couple of great scientists with something like a mild form of autism (Henry Cavendish had severe social anxiety at least), but it gets silly when they claim people like Einstein who could actually interact with other people had it, or people who obviously had a different problem (Tesla had OCD, not autism). The fact special ed didn't exist back then would have meant autists would probably stay maladjusted for life. Over 50% of autists have intellectual disability, so geniuses are pretty rare among them.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Because they're the ones who lose their shit if you try to correct them in any sort of way, because their parents/the internet (or both) taught them that everybody who doesn't lick your butt 24/7 is a discriminating, ableist shitlord who specifically hates autistics (and only autistics). Be it moving boxes around warehouses, working as a cashier in a store, wiping down tables in a restaurant (fast food or sit down), or any kind of work in an office, the moment their boss has any kind of criticism for them they'll lose their shit and get fired. Word will get around and nobody will hire them no matter how much they need that diversity hire quota. Even though there should be nothing preventing them from working, the personalities that build around that mindset make them unemployable.

And yet, I'm pretty sure some of those employers may have other biases than simply "They're autistic". For example, what if the boss happens to be racist or sexist? I feel like those should be a little more concerning than whether someone has a mental learning disability.

Not only that, but their mentality is giving all the truly disabled people, both mentally and physical (if not both) a bad name by proxy because those people are the ones who deserve the disability money, not the high-functioning ones who don't even try to put in any amount of effort into finding a job and just leach off the government. I mean some people like Chris, I can get because his piss-poor living conditions were a result of his upbringing. But the Tumblr and Wrong Planet ones are the ones who go "I don't wanna work, I just wanna live off my parents".

 

[The Buket Woman]

tumblr autists are from upper middle class families where people have well paying non-warehouse-type jobs. they're mad that they're not qualified to do a well paying non-warehouse-type job. these are the same people who will talk about how hard college is for autistics and then retroactively diagnose phd-having scientists with asperger's.

I have a theory about autists like this on Tumblr and Wrong Planet. Many of these people were diagnosed as children and probably grew up hearing about how famous people like Einstein, Edison, etc. may have been on the spectrum. And if they also happened to show interest in something like STEM (or some similar high-paying field which isn't particularly social), their parents may have put all their eggs in one basket and basically let them hyperfocus on that at the expense of learning other skills, with the goal of this becoming a lucrative career for their child. By the time the child is of legal working age, all they're heard is how smart they are in their given field and how rich this career path is going to make them. They may begin to feel (and I'm not convinced in at least a few cases that the parents haven't actually told them to their face) that someone with their "intelligence" is simply too talented, sophisticated, and special snowflakey to work at McDonald's or Walmart for minimum wage at 16. They feel entitled to pull in six figures a year fresh out of high school.

Another part of me wonders if some of these parents hear that STEM is often a popular career among those on the spectrum and sort of pigeonhole their kids into it rather than looking at the child's actual talents and letting them try their hand at different things. Ironically, these are probably the same parents who whine about people stereotyping their children as technology-obsessed basement dwellers.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I have a theory about autists like this on Tumblr and Wrong Planet. Many of these people were diagnosed as children and probably grew up hearing about how famous people like Einstein, Edison, etc. may have been on the spectrum. And if they also happened to show interest in something like STEM (or some similar high-paying field which isn't particularly social), their parents may have put all their eggs in one basket and basically let them hyperfocus on that at the expense of learning other skills, with the goal of this becoming a lucrative career for their child. By the time the child is of legal working age, all they're heard is how smart they are in their given field and how rich this career path is going to make them. They may begin to feel (and I'm not convinced in at least a few cases that the parents haven't actually told them to their face) that someone with their "intelligence" is simply too talented, sophisticated, and special snowflakey to work at McDonald's or Walmart for minimum wage at 16. They feel entitled to pull in six figures a year fresh out of high school.

Another part of me wonders if some of these parents hear that STEM is often a popular career among those on the spectrum and sort of pigeonhole their kids into it rather than looking at the child's actual talents and letting them try their hand at different things. Ironically, these are probably the same parents who whine about people stereotyping their children as technology-obsessed basement dwellers.

And this isn't 1985 when tech people were the unkempt backroom UNIX guy. Tech being lucrative means more socially adept people in the field, meaning it's harder for autists.

 

[SpecialSpuds]

Some parents can also encourage their autistist kids to not get a job, especially if their gov bux are pretty big, doubly so if the parent gets a kind of carer payment.

 

[Skullshatterer]

At least on tumblr i've found that most would exaggerate their symptoms and that normal discomfort anyone can have would instead be labeled as result of their autism. So anything like 'today i'm not in the mood to keep talking/socializing' would turn into "sometimes I go non/semi-verbal" I do believe most are self dx though and maybe not even have autism. It's more likely they just suffer from anxiety and depression, not autism.

I also see many complaining how after going to a evaluation and their doctor saying they don't have autism will just reject the doctor's diagnosis and complain how they were ableist while some others self dx will mention how they are afraid of a doctor saying they don't have autism.

While on tumblr most would never admit that autistics are a master race I think most have this mindset. They will act and sometimes even outright say how only people with autism can "think outisde the box" and armchair diagnose geniuses/people they like as having some sort of autism like Albert Einstein or some shit. Their mindset is that NTs are all jocks and autistics are the misunderstood nerd that are the main character of the movie instead of realizing many of them fall into the creep guy that no one, even the nerd one, likes category.

 

[The Buket Woman]

While on tumblr most would never admit that autistics are a master race I think most have this mindset. They will act and sometimes even outright say how only people with autism can "think outisde the box" and armchair diagnose geniuses/people they like as having some sort of autism like Albert Einstein or some shit. Their mindset is that NTs are all jocks and autistics are the misunderstood nerd that are the main character of the movie instead of realizing many of them fall into the creep guy that no one, even the nerd one, likes category.

This drives me nuts. If they do something well, it's because autism enhanced certain abilities needed to excel in that endeavor. If they fuck up, it's because autism makes stuff more difficult for them and everything is conspiracy cooked up by evil NTs to keep the autistic man down. And God forbid you ever suggest that ALL people have a least a little bit of difficulty in some social situations. No, you ableist shitlord! Only those on the spectrum get to have such problems! How dare you appropriate them!

Also, does anyone else get tired of seeing stories or YouTube videos with titles such as "Eight-year-old credits his autism with helping him win science fair" or "Young math whiz sees autism as a gift"? I guess I kind of get that they're trying to show that being on the spectrum doesn't have to hold you back from doing great things, but why can't a kid be good at math or science just because they happen to naturally be good at them and enjoy them? Most adults aren't good at such things (I'm sure as hell not), so the fact that a child did them should be remarkable in itself. I guarantee you it's the parents who make sure to feed the reporter all the autism positivity feel-good shit and then have the kid parrot it on camera.

I guess I'm just one of those people who draws more inspiration from those who just sort of succeed in spite of certain handicaps and "do them" so to speak rather than people who keep reeing and shouting "LOOK AT ME! I HAVE [insert diagnosis here] AND I SUCCESSFULLY DID X, Y, AND Z! I'M A FUCKIN' INSPIRATION!". Creating awareness is one thing; shoehorning the diagnosis into every conversation and then bitching that people can't see past your disability is a very different kettle of fish.

 

[MeerkatMarauder41]

What's everyone's take on people with classic autism, not Asperger's?

 

[Skullshatterer]

What's everyone's take on people with classic autism, not Asperger's?

Classic autism? you mean like banging head on the wall and playing with poop? Even worse. These are the ones that would truly benefit from a cure so that's why it kinda pisses me off when high functionings are like lol autism cure is genocide. Like I don't care if you wanna keep being a weirdo but if a cure can help people that otherwise are most likely to end up in institutions otherwise then i'm all for a cure.

 

[MeerkatMarauder41]

Classic autism? you mean like banging head on the wall and playing with poop? Even worse. These are the ones that would truly benefit from a cure so that's why it kinda pisses me off when high functionings are like lol autism cure is genocide. Like I don't care if you wanna keep being a weirdo but if a cure can help people that otherwise are most likely to end up in institutions otherwise then i'm all for a cure.

Classic autism doesn't necessarily mean that. The diagnostic conditions are just that there is a language delay, which doesn't occur in people with AS. Although most people with classic autism are as you describe, usually because they also have a co-morbid intellectual disability as well.
Myself? Somewhere in the middle.....well, I was put into the Level 2 support group, when everyone with AS is put into Level 3 by default. And considering the UK government is incredibly stingy in terms of providing support to the disabled....I can only assume I must look like I can't cope by myself more so than the Aspie's can. Probably gonna get put into supported housing once my parents get fed up with me or drop dead.
But yeah, I'd like a cure. Better than being in absolute agony every time I hear a loud noise or loving the smell of shit.....least I don't smear it on my face and pretend I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger in Predator anymore.

 

[howyadoin]

This drives me nuts. If they do something well, it's because autism enhanced certain abilities needed to excel in that endeavor. If they fuck up, it's because autism makes stuff more difficult for them and everything is conspiracy cooked up by evil NTs to keep the autistic man down. And God forbid you ever suggest that ALL people have a least a little bit of difficulty in some social situations. No, you ableist shitlord! Only those on the spectrum get to have such problems! How dare you appropriate them!

Also, does anyone else get tired of seeing stories or YouTube videos with titles such as "Eight-year-old credits his autism with helping him win science fair" or "Young math whiz sees autism as a gift"? I guess I kind of get that they're trying to show that being on the spectrum doesn't have to hold you back from doing great things, but why can't a kid be good at math or science just because they happen to naturally be good at them and enjoy them? Most adults aren't good at such things (I'm sure as hell not), so the fact that a child did them should be remarkable in itself. I guarantee you it's the parents who make sure to feed the reporter all the autism positivity feel-good shit and then have the kid parrot it on camera.

Gonna disagree with you there that autism can affect your intelligence for better or for worse. Autism can make one focus on a subject so much that they can become experts of it, which can vary from math to trains to CWCville.

But I will say that I hate when autism becomes sugarcoated and gets described as if it's the best thing that has happened to them. It's called a disability for a reason.

 

[MeerkatMarauder41]

Gonna disagree with you there that autism can affect your intelligence for better or for worse. Autism can make one focus on a subject so much that they can become experts of it, which can vary from math to trains to CWCville.

But I will say that I hate when autism becomes sugarcoated and gets described as if it's the best thing that has happened to them. It's called a disability for a reason.

If it had more of an adverse impact on their life than it generally does for most Aspie's, I guarantee they would be begging for a cure. But as long as it's only mild for most of them they start crying about "neurodiversity" and all this crap instead. Good for you. It's a laugh having autism. Go and say that to the self-destructive non-verbal kid. It just comes across as a very selfish POV to me.