x402 - An open protocol for internet-native payments

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1. Crypto is already so regulated that any normie will be datamined by the gov to a new extreme (and their info will probably be sold by KYC exchanges). This is not something that might happen - it WILL happen.

2. Will crypto in the future become so regulated that only the most devoted are able to browse the internet privately? It's clear the gov hates anonymous coins with how they've treated Monero. x402.org also claims "no fees" so this gives KYC exchanges incentive to lobby the government to enforce KYC exchanges so they can profit off that fiat to crypto fee. Call me schizo idc.
This isn't especially true.
Tornado Cash (an Ethereum based mixer/anoymizer/money laundering service) was recently unsanctioned by the US government. So someone can just trade USDC<>ETH via a DEX (decentralized exchange, which requires no KYC) then tornado cash it to anonymize it and then sell it for cash or whatever. (Yes - the US government effectively legalized a money laundering service)

It will reach the point where you can just buy cards or whatever from the gas station or supermarket for smaller amounts (up to a couple of hundred bucks) and although the above methods certainly aren't fool proof unless you're actively pissing off NSA-level adversaries then you'll be fine. It's extremely unlikely that if you have wallet with a few hundred bucks in it that anyone would expend the effort required to phonebook you unless you're doing some truly heinous/outrageous shit.
 
You're still so fucking early, the average normie like myself has absolutely no idea what in the name of fuck crypto currencies even are. We get scared when we see it. That's how early you are. This makes as much sense to me as the mechanism behind consciousness itself, and there are billions upon billions of people just like me out there.
Thanks bro.
 
I think Kagi (which touts itself as a truly free and unfucked search engine) had something similar going on with paying by the penny to do search inquiries. If there's any service that would benefit the most from this new feature, it should be Kagi.
 
Thanks bro.
When your revolutionary new technology isn't compatible with normies(99% of the population) it's probably not going to be as revolutionary as you think. Which is why any crypto scheme that doesn't also allow you to purchase the thing with fiat is a flop.
 
When your revolutionary new technology isn't compatible with normies(99% of the population) it's probably not going to be as revolutionary as you think. Which is why any crypto scheme that doesn't also allow you to purchase the thing with fiat is a flop.
Thats why there is an AI tie-in for the API and Anthropic are one of the sponsors. The actual vision is to have normies talk to Claude on their phone, say "Order me McDonalds on Door Dash" and it does it with 0 friction. They can get easy processing fees off of the convenience. The protocol isn't the product, its infrastructure to enable the product. They're playing the long game to take a cut out of every transaction from Shanequa who is too lazy to even open an app to make a purchase. When all of this is combined together it will probably allow fiat conversions and those conversions will also allow for more transaction fees.
 
Thats why there is an AI tie-in for the API and Anthropic are one of the sponsors. The actual vision is to have normies talk to Claude on their phone, say "Order me McDonalds on Door Dash" and it does it with 0 friction. They can get easy processing fees off of the convenience. The protocol isn't the product, its infrastructure to enable the product. They're playing the long game to take a cut out of every transaction from Shanequa who is too lazy to even open an app to make a purchase. When all of this is combined together it will probably allow fiat conversions and those conversions will also allow for more transaction fees.
Amazon Alexa already exists it does the same shit and people don't particularly use it. Even the most gorilla brain dead idiot doesn't trust a computer to make it's purchases for them and thats with a simple chat bot not an unpredictable LLM that will randomly decide extra pickles means it needs to order 5 extra big macs.
 
No, it requires smart contracts, which can't be implemented on a private blockchain (as far as any mathematician has been able to figure out, anyway)
Then it can work with tari.com which is founded by fluffypony (ex Monero dev) and is being merge-mined with XMR, plus, tari is private by default a la Monero
 
Update: Google has now partnered with Coinbase to make AI Agents that pays for things using x402. @neger psykolog pinging for notif.
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Here is the linked article for more information in the below tweet. (A)

Unlisted video below demonstrating the agent buying a fridge.
 
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