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If anything would get me to use Linux (fucking ew), it would be that. MY fucking hardware that I paid for, MY fucking rules.
Xbox introduces default remote shut down in consoles to fight climate change - We not only hold ourselves accountable to the carbon emissions... but to the emissions created with the use of our products in the homes of our fans
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Not me. If I'm not using my console right now, or only taking a quick break (like to go use the bathroom or grab a snack), I turn it off. Keeping electronics powered on 24/7, in my experience, is a great way to make their operational lifespan shorter.
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No, thermal cycling is more likely to cause damage in the long run if you actually turn it of all the way and store it in a freezer.
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It's funny how we live in an ostensibly capitalist society, but the moment that lets the lower class get a little too uppity, such as by using power that's ostensibly sold in a free market, all of a sudden appeals to the betterment of society are made to provide an excuse for taking away what little freedom people supposedly have.
I was always a bit of a Devil's advocate when it came to climate change, since no I don't believe dumping raw sewage into a river or polluting the world with plastic for Coca-Cola to be a good thing, but these last few years have seen climate change used to justify shit like this or, say, suddenly dying, and it's more clear than ever that no one at the top actually believes climate change to be a serious issue in any way. It's only going to be an excuse for such things, and they'll only grow ever bolder in using it.
They certainly won't try optimizing their software instead; that's too hard for the supposed world leader in software or whatever MicroSoft claims to be.
I was always a bit of a Devil's advocate when it came to climate change, since no I don't believe dumping raw sewage into a river or polluting the world with plastic for Coca-Cola to be a good thing, but these last few years have seen climate change used to justify shit like this or, say, suddenly dying, and it's more clear than ever that no one at the top actually believes climate change to be a serious issue in any way. It's only going to be an excuse for such things, and they'll only grow ever bolder in using it.
They certainly won't try optimizing their software instead; that's too hard for the supposed world leader in software or whatever MicroSoft claims to be.
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Microsoft has been threatening to do similar things for years, I'm surprised people are still willing to buy Xbones.
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid
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Linux Ubuntu and Mint are good "just works" distros from what I understand.
Video drivers are butt, though.
You should consider opening up the console and replacing the thermal paste with liquid metal, that will extend the lifespan of your consoles. If your heat spreader is copper though, I'd recommend putting a thermal pad between the copper heat sink and the liquid metal on the CPU die. Otherwise, the liquid metal will alloy with the copper.
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Wait, not everyone has access to gigabit connections? - Microsoft
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Just don't buy hardware from people that want to cuck you with proprietary drivers.
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But AMDs video cards are mediocre.
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Am I the only one who doesn't really see this as that big of a deal? Because based on the news articles and reading Microsoft's explanation, my understanding of what this update does is change the default standby/sleep mode's behavior so that it uses less power, but at the expense of adding 5-10 seconds to wake the system. Yes, the update defaults it to on, but you can still just as easily go toggle the old standby behavior in the system settings.
The new behavior sounds similar to how the PS3 would handle large downloads. The PS3 was literally incapable of downloading/installing anything in the background, so you could enable an optional feature where the system would turn itself on at like 4 am, download/install any updates and pending downloads, then turn itself off when finished.
Also, I'm pretty sure the "remote shutdown" feature they're talking about is the currently existing one where if your Xbox sits idle for 2-ish hours, it turns off automatically. Never mind the fact that the feature has existed since the days of the 360, and you can still outright disable that feature anyways.
The new behavior sounds similar to how the PS3 would handle large downloads. The PS3 was literally incapable of downloading/installing anything in the background, so you could enable an optional feature where the system would turn itself on at like 4 am, download/install any updates and pending downloads, then turn itself off when finished.
Also, I'm pretty sure the "remote shutdown" feature they're talking about is the currently existing one where if your Xbox sits idle for 2-ish hours, it turns off automatically. Never mind the fact that the feature has existed since the days of the 360, and you can still outright disable that feature anyways.
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Have you seen the crap nvidia comes out with lately?
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How do I unplug my console when I'm not using it? Thems hard!
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No because I can't get my hands on any affordable cards anyway.
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I'll have to check and see if they let you disable it. The way its always been with the Xbone & Series is that it'll automatically go into standby mode after an hour or so, but the console wakes from standby mode very quickly. If you want to shut it down completely, the button's deeply buried in the settings. Weird, but it's a hassle to shut the thing down properly, like if you don't want to risk a problem if you're unplugging it. So I guess they're changing it so that it shuts down rather than goes into sleep mode, which kinda sucks because it takes several minutes for an Xbone to start up, and still like a minute for a Series S.
PS3 didn't even have a sleep mode, lol.
Microsoft's set a bad precedent with all their crazy forced updates on Windows that'll just say "Hey, you're working on something? ffffffffFuck you, time to update." The concept that they might take away the ability to disable this isn't exactly off the table.
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What do you mean "if"? it is already on windows, the Xbox operating system IS windows. It will require exactly zero effort to push this change to the windows desktop and to the windows server.
I wouldn't even be surprised if they had an "oops i fell and my dick slipped in" moment where they "accidentally" push this feature to all windows platforms.
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Yet another reason why a vidya console shouldn't need an internet connection to function.
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Xbox on stand by uses a fuck ton of power
"It’s been discovered that leaving the Xbox Series X on standby uses up to £59 worth of energy a year. By comparison, the PlayStation 5 only costs £4 a year if left on standby."
metro.co.uk
"It’s been discovered that leaving the Xbox Series X on standby uses up to £59 worth of energy a year. By comparison, the PlayStation 5 only costs £4 a year if left on standby."
Xbox Series X wastes 15 times more money in standby mode than PS5
Unlike the PS5 and Switch, leaving your Xbox Series X on standby mode, rather than switching it off, is more costly than you may think.
metro.co.uk
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Give it two more months and you won't be able to anymore.
I'm pretty sure shutting things down in the name of the environment is going to be the next meme to fuck consumers with.
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Nickle & diming bullshit. The collective "wasted energy" of idling xbones is a drop in the bucket compared to industrial-level waste (and consumption in general).
While this is obviously just a lie to let MS test the waters of taking (more) remote control of their customers' hardware, it does continue to amuse me how the most vocal environmentalists never seem to go after the world's biggest polluters (e.g. China). Though I suppose it's much safer and easier to walk in circles holding picket signs in front of a nuclear power plant in the US than it is to do the same sort of thing in China. They "disappear" people for doing that kind of thing there.
More to the point, why is it consumers' job to reduce emissions? MS' own office buildings probably consume more energy in a day than the combined consumption of all their customers anyway. Just seems weird. Kinda like when a multi-billion dollar company like Walmart begs its customers to donate to charity.
While this is obviously just a lie to let MS test the waters of taking (more) remote control of their customers' hardware, it does continue to amuse me how the most vocal environmentalists never seem to go after the world's biggest polluters (e.g. China). Though I suppose it's much safer and easier to walk in circles holding picket signs in front of a nuclear power plant in the US than it is to do the same sort of thing in China. They "disappear" people for doing that kind of thing there.
More to the point, why is it consumers' job to reduce emissions? MS' own office buildings probably consume more energy in a day than the combined consumption of all their customers anyway. Just seems weird. Kinda like when a multi-billion dollar company like Walmart begs its customers to donate to charity.