$ (XMR) Monero

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Apart from the new addresses, Seraphis/Jamtis will let us have "real" watch-only wallets. Currently, Monero watch-only wallets can only see the incoming amounts. They cannot keep track of the outgoing amounts. Seraphis/Jamtis will make these watch-only wallets quite the same as in Bitcoin's watch-only wallets, namely, being able to see incoming&outgoing amounts and having a precise wallet balance. That's neat.
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This feature is what I cant want wait for. I use watch-only wallets on my mobile device and with Monero its always annoying having to remember how much XMR I've sent when checking my wallets on my phone.
 
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Just as an FYI, if you want waste money on mining rigs for Monero, now isn't a bad time since 3950x processors are going for between $280 - $330 while remaining one of the better budget mining options due to the sheer number of cores, AM4 motherboards are currently being phased out so you can get some good deals ($100 - $120), you can currently get B-die DDR4-3200 CL14 for under $200 (this is the key), and the Thermalright Peerless Assassin (not the SE version) is around $44 which will handle a PBO power limited 3950x without ANY issues (51 degrees C steady-state no problem with an aggressive fan curve for the 50-55 degree range), just remember to remove that invisible plastic sheet on the cold-plate before installing...it's surprisingly well hidden.

Throw in a power supply (big variability on price), an M2 ($30 for a small one), a set of motherboard standoffs, a sheet of laminate shelving to put the standoffs on, a momentary power switch, the cheapest discrete video card you can find ($50), a spare fan secured to blow over the RAM/VRM, and you can easily get 16k-17k hashrate on a 100w power limited processor on a piece of shelving. Just remember to figure out where the videocard will hang down so you can position the motherboard on the shelving to allow the edge PCI-slot cover to hang off the back which means you don't need to cut a channel for it...or just cut the bottom off the PCI-slot cover if the card comes with multiple slot cover options, which a lot of cheap ones do because they are typically low-profile cards.

The trick is making sure the infinity fabric clock and memory clock match, so anything MORE than DDR4-3200 is wasting money for low-end boards, and a B-die CL14 can be overclocked pretty trivially to get those juicy hash-rates, even using the DRAM calculator's settings.

You can run these headless so in theory you might only need one videocard to share between rigs, but the cheap ones use no power and I like being able to actually check the machine on a screen whenever I want.
 
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Just remember to figure out where the videocard will hang
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I didn't think you needed a video card on a monero rig. I thought you just needed 1 to hook up a screen to get the miner going and then disconnect it and use it to start your other rigs.
 
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I didn't think you needed a video card on a monero rig. I thought you just needed 1 to hook up a screen to get the miner going and then disconnect it and use it to start your other rigs.
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"You can run these headless so in theory you might only need one videocard to share between rigs, but the cheap ones use no power and I like being able to actually check the machine on a screen whenever I want."
 
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Iron Jaguar said:
"You can run these headless so in theory you might only need one videocard to share between rigs, but the cheap ones use no power and I like being able to actually check the machine on a screen whenever I want."
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My bad. Didn't read the last line.
 
Related to that: one may be inclined to suggest that B550s with integrated graphics would fix the video output issue, but only certain processors support that, and the 3950x is not among them.
 
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With a few weeks breaking in some of my rigs, the ones I can run "fast" high quality memory DRAM calculator settings on settled into around 18k H/s PBO limited at 100w, so that's using a bit more than 100w at the wall, but not as much more as you might think. I have the CPU coolers set to crank at 52 C which seems to keep things agreeable even in the summer heat, though it seems to lose a couple dozen MHz per core if it goes past 52 C or so which does impact hashrate to the tune of 10-200 H/s depending on how bad it throttles down.

One oddity for those unfamiliar with PBO, lord knows I was, the power setting being at 1000 isn't a mistake, that's how Ryzen master "unlocks" the CPU's power limitations...up to its normal limit, so that is actually measured in watts. It may seem jarring to reduce that number from 1000 to 100, but that works just fine.

PBO power limiting is a lot more stable than manual undervolting which I did in the past, since PBO manages the voltage rather than holding it static, which seems to massively increase the headroom for temps; it got awfully sensitive about temps when I was manually undervolting.
 
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HarblMcDavid said:
With a few weeks breaking in some of my rigs, the ones I can run "fast" high quality memory DRAM calculator settings on settled into around 18k H/s PBO limited at 100w, so that's using a bit more than 100w at the wall, but not as much more as you might think. I have the CPU coolers set to crank at 52 C which seems to keep things agreeable even in the summer heat, though it seems to lose a couple dozen MHz per core if it goes past 52 C or so which does impact hashrate to the tune of 10-200 H/s depending on how bad it throttles down.

One oddity for those unfamiliar with PBO, lord knows I was, the power setting being at 1000 isn't a mistake, that's how Ryzen master "unlocks" the CPU's power limitations...up to its normal limit, so that is actually measured in watts. It may seem jarring to reduce that number from 1000 to 100, but that works just fine.

PBO power limiting is a lot more stable than manual undervolting which I did in the past, since PBO manages the voltage rather than holding it static, which seems to massively increase the headroom for temps; it got awfully sensitive about temps when I was manually undervolting.
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any recommendations on a mining rig for retards? I want to mine monero yet have no experience mining, is there a simple way to buy hardware and set everything up or do I have to solder shit and code?
 
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Motherboard on standoffs attached to a piece of wood with a power supply lol. If you can build a computer in a case, you can build a mining rig, since all mining rigs are is super-stripped down computers from a hardware perspective. All mine run Windows 10 because lazy and Ryzen Master makes PBO power limits easy to implement, but a lot of people like HiveOS.

The hardest part is figuring out the wiring for a momentary switch since none of them I've bought come with a pinout, but realistically if you know how to jump the mobo headers you don't actually need the switch.

The second hardest part is getting the standoffs into the piece of shelving such that the motherboard sits on them right, but using the motherboard screw holes as a template is a good start.

3950x from ebay (don't pay more than $350, and be picky about who you buy from), B-Die CL14 3200 memory (use this for references), some form of B550 or greater mobo (cheap with sinked VRM ideally), the cheapest good twin tower cooler you can get, the Peerless Assassin (not the SE version) fits that bill currently, a decent ~550w PSU (modular ideally) but you can get away with less as long as it has 8-pin CPU power, and some angle brackets from Lowes to screw down a fan or two to blow on the VRM. At least one video card of the cheap low power variety depending on if you want to run headless or with the ability to check on a screen. Any cheap-shit SSD you have lying around or that cost less than $30.

After that just make a monero wallet for mining, not a sub wallet, a regular whole-ass wallet, then set up P2Pool (which comes with the Monero wallet) to point at that wallet. P2Pool is stupidly simple to use, run that on the same machine as a local node, then connect your rigs by pointing XMRig to the P2Pool machine. Or run XMRig proxy on the node machine, point your miners at that, and point XMRig Proxy at P2Pool.

I strongly suggest running the node and P2Pool on a different machine than the miners, but that's not required.

I can go into more detail if people want me to, it's pretty easy to figure out though.
 
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Recently got to moving my XMR to a proper wallet that isn't custodial. Is it just me or is the official MoneroGUI less useful than the FeatherWallet?

I kept trying to use the official one and it was slow and felt clunky and didn't seem to have a good way to make it portable unless I was willing to have a full OS on a USB stick. But Feather just comes in a simple one file executable that you can make portable in literal seconds by just having it run in a folder with a file named "portable.txt" and it makes sure to unpack and run right there. Makes it a lot easier to run.

It also synched up a lot faster to run my local node compared to MoneroGUI.
 
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This feature is what I cant want wait for. I use watch-only wallets on my mobile device and with Monero its always annoying having to remember how much XMR I've sent when checking my wallets on my phone.
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I get that view only wallets won't show the outgoing transactions but does the balance still update? If not is the only real work around deleting and then restoring the view only wallet again to get an updated wallet balance?
 
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I get that view only wallets won't show the outgoing transactions but does the balance still update? If not is the only real work around deleting and then restoring the view only wallet again to get an updated wallet balance?
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Nevermind. I tested it myself and the view only wallet balance never updates after the wallet has been emptied. Kinda annoying but I guess if we are talking a true offline paper wallet it shouldn't matter much.
 
Something to note about running small hives of monero mining rigs with P2Pool, having tried both pointing directly at P2Pool and pointing everything at XMRig Proxy which is pointing at P2Pool, I think the former is a better solution.

With XMRig Proxy, the difficulty P2Pool gives you is determined by the combined hashrate of the proxy, whereas with pointing individual rigs at the same P2Pool node, the difficulty is determined for each individual rig.

The end result seems to be that with each rig getting hashrate appropriate difficulty problems, you get slightly better share rate overall since they aren't cranking on problems that take forever (comparatively) all the time. More rolls, more chances at a share, though I am pretty sure difficulty weights rewards which is why the difference isn't as noticeable as you might think.
 
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Crypto shouldnt be seen as a stock, monero especially. It should be seen as a private online currency.

Protip:
Get i2p, visit http://lm.i2p/nojs/
Do cash by mail.
New York in the US at least seems to have regulated crypto into the ground, along the way implying XMR is outright outlawed.

Good news is that once you have the coin it's yours and no one should know.
Also, use a local wallet, the full, unpruned blockchain is ~64 gb, pruned is much less.
You can set and forget the initial sync for about a day.

Sperging aside it feels good to stick my middle finger up to Hochul and get my coin anyways.
 
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(((Obar Lazcano Kamz))) said:
any recommendations on a mining rig for retards? I want to mine monero yet have no experience mining, is there a simple way to buy hardware and set everything up or do I have to solder shit and code?
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I'm in the same boat today. Did you manage to get something going?

I've bought a cheap mid-range gaming PC from a thrift shop and i live in business accommodation at the moment (free electricity) so I want to see if i can make some money.

How do I get to the miney mine?

HarblMcDavid said:
Motherboard on standoffs attached to a piece of wood with a power supply lol. If you can build a computer in a case, you can build a mining rig, since all mining rigs are is super-stripped down computers from a hardware perspective. All mine run Windows 10 because lazy and Ryzen Master makes PBO power limits easy to implement, but a lot of people like HiveOS.

The hardest part is figuring out the wiring for a momentary switch since none of them I've bought come with a pinout, but realistically if you know how to jump the mobo headers you don't actually need the switch.

The second hardest part is getting the standoffs into the piece of shelving such that the motherboard sits on them right, but using the motherboard screw holes as a template is a good start.
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So I like, erm, download, something?

Do I need seperate boards on shelves or can I use one rig, plugged in and running all day long?
 
When using a monero wallet, is it necessary to use a VPN/Tor for maximum privacy? I do anyway, I'm just curious.
 
Would it be possible to statistically analyze someone's monero address by linking together known monero traffic from his or her network to the time of appearances of transactions on the blocks?
 
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Would it be possible to statistically analyze someone's monero address by linking together known monero traffic from his or her network to the time of appearances of transactions on the blocks?
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If you are using a remote node yes, these types of analysis are possible except linking addresses since monero addresses are never seen on the blockchain. So unless you are not hiding your IP address while opening a monero wallet connected to a remote node, creating a transaction and at the same time accessing a website containing a static monero address, like a blog with a donation address, then your traffic + node connection may be able to be used together for this kind of analysis.

This can be avoided by running your own monero node daemon and hiding your IP address

 
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If you are using a remote node yes, these types of analysis are possible except linking addresses since monero addresses are never seen on the blockchain. So unless you are not hiding your IP address while opening a monero wallet connected to a remote node, creating a transaction and at the same time accessing a website containing a static monero address, like a blog with a donation address, then your traffic + node connection may be able to be used together for this kind of analysis.

This can be avoided by running your own monero node daemon and hiding your IP address

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I should have specified that it is when running a local node.
 
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