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And BECAUSE they are all writing the exact same story, they have to create drama to get noticed, and they have to take out the competition somehow. Usually it's just accusing a new book of being racist. Cait was just too stupid to do that; she would have been lauded for it, no matter how thin the evidence was.

The only thing preventing me from enjoying this particular saga more is that I hate everyone involved so damn much that it's hard to even relish the mess.
I think you’re giving them too much credit. They don’t create drama to stand out in a crowded field and advance their careers, they create drama because they’re insane narcissists who believe their unquestionable greatness is held back only by a system stacked against them because they’re brown/black/queer. It just so happens that they’re within an establishment that rewards their tantrums.
 
I think you’re giving them too much credit. They don’t create drama to stand out in a crowded field and advance their careers, they create drama because they’re insane narcissists who believe their unquestionable greatness is held back only by a system stacked against them because they’re brown/black/queer. It just so happens that they’re within an establishment that rewards their tantrums.
I don't think it's conscious, it's the inevitable push of their own narcissistic anxiety and the crunch in a field where their own audiences are only as loyal as how unproblematic the authors' latest tweets are. The incentives are there to both attract bad actors and create them.
 
It's literally a romance novel. A heterosexual romance novel that claims to be "queer".
I do occasionally read romance novels and I've noticed more and more that they are trying to push stuff like asexuality and "queerness" into romance even though basically nothing about it changes. Like the blurb will claim the heroine is demisexual or something like that but it's the same normal heterosexual romance that any other book has. So maybe it's just all marketing or something.
Going by the description on Good Reads

Greek mythology takes to the stars in this steamy, sci-fi reimagining of the tale of Ariadne and Dionysus—the first book in a snarky, queer, lushly romantic duology set in a galaxy of monstrous mortals, bloodthirsty gods, and love fierce enough to shatter the cosmos.

Raised amongst monsters, Ariadne Tholos, Crown Princess of the interstellar Cretan Empire, fears nothing more than becoming one herself. But trapped within the labyrinth of imperial politics and the puritanical restrictions of her father, King-Emperor Minos—and his totalitarian regime of militarized death cultists—she might not have another option. When the chance arises to take her fate into her own hands, Ariadne seizes it, only to find herself on the run—injured, alone, and in desperate need of a miracle.

Enter Dionysus—the exiled god of wine, madness, and revelry. He needs a Cretan royal to join his cult in order to end his banishment and return home to Olympus. Their meeting is the opportunity he’s been waiting for, but there’s just one problem: the Cretans are heretics, and Ariadne is no exception.

With a vengeful Minos closing in, Ariadne strikes a bargain. She’ll marry Dionysus and “join” his cult. In exchange, he’ll hide her away in the only corner of the galaxy beyond Minos’s reach: Olympus itself. But while Ariadne can handle the deadly politicking of the Olympians, a life of repression has left her unprepared for how powerfully Dionysus’s uninhibited debauchery will call to her darkest desires, and make her question parts of her identity she’s kept locked away her entire life.

She only "marries" Dionysus to get away from her "puritanical" father. I guess this novel basically mirrors the authors life of growing up in a christian household, going off to college, partying and sleeping around.

Strike that: Dionysus is just "non-binary" according to this tweet.

Wasn't Cait Corrain mentioned here previously? She's like married to an Icelandic woman, right?
According to this website Cait is married to a man.
 
And another lady writing a YA novel manages to generate controversy. This time it's Lauren M. Davis. She came up with the "brilliant" idea to sue another, more successful YA fantasy author for plagiarism. Her entire case is built on the fact that this other author has a character who has magical sun powers.
After receiving backlash for the lawsuit, she claimed it was worth it due to getting attention:
 

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This whole Cait shenanigans can be resumed in two words: women moment.


It is incredibly retarded and funny, that only a retarded woman amongst other women would try something as dumb as it.

The job of a fiction writers is to lie, and she couldn't lie to save her own career. The readers didnt lost a goddamn thing
 
Good to be back, thanks Hong Kong

Also I have been informed this is not YA, it's ADULT SCIENCE FICTION FANTASY written by mentally ill women, they are totally different!!!!

I don't know if I've ranted about this but here it is again. There's this huge problem in Fantasy-genre publishing for the last few years (along with the rise in #BookTok) where the "Adult" section has been infected with "16 year old girl has adventures" books.

The YA market is not as strong as it used to be - a shitload of books that are YA are moved into adult and marketed as such. This especially happens it there is some kind of marketing label that can be attached -POC, queer or what have you.

There was a BIG whiplash/FAFO in 2023 when a major bookseller released their Best YA Books of 2023 list and EVERY ONE WAS WHITE.

Cue screeching. Cue Screaming About Racism. Cue "what about X, Y, Z book?" Cue people (drowned out by the screaming) pointing out that any POC-written book that is competent goes DIRECTLY TO THE ADULT LIST. X, Y, Z book about teen adventurer going to magic school is in the Adult List. All the good POC books are upgraded. All the good white people books kind of stay in their lane.

I do occasionally read romance novels and I've noticed more and more that they are trying to push stuff like asexuality and "queerness" into romance even though basically nothing about it changes. Like the blurb will claim the heroine is demisexual or something like that but it's the same normal heterosexual romance that any other book has. So maybe it's just all marketing or something.

Powerlevelling, but when I wrote a straight-relationship in my book, my literary agent asked if I could put something "gay" in it, or queer. This was only a couple of years ago.

Later when it was being sold by the publisher's lazy marketing team, the friendship in the book was marketed as "sapphic". They were fucking friends.
 
Powerlevelling, but when I wrote a straight-relationship in my book, my literary agent asked if I could put something "gay" in it, or queer. This was only a couple of years ago.

Later when it was being sold by the publisher's lazy marketing team, the friendship in the book was marketed as "sapphic". They were fucking friends.
Any reason why they are so hell bent on pandering to a single digit percentage of the population? Also I think this is the sort of bait and switch that would piss a gay person off if they were trying to find something to read.
 
Any reason why they are so hell bent on pandering to a single digit percentage of the population? Also I think this is the sort of bait and switch that would piss a gay person off if they were trying to find something to read.
Because ESG is real. And ESG is real because eroding peoples' communities and traditions with faggotry makes you more vulnerable to other kike plans.
 
I've seen books with a Male/Female Heterosexual romance be described as queer bc the girl is bi or some shit.
Well of course. If either character behaves in a completely stereotypical version of their sex, but also claims to be nonbinary, then it's also queer. You could write a straight up plagarism of Georgette Heyer with one character using xe/xim pronouns and get feted as a fabulous new queer genre breaker.
 
Any reason why they are so hell bent on pandering to a single digit percentage of the population? Also I think this is the sort of bait and switch that would piss a gay person off if they were trying to find something to read.
The loudmouths have a strangle hold on the industry. Their screams of "we need representation" drown out anyone else and anything sensible. I have a feeling that most female readers, be that adult or teen-aged ones, would be a lot happier if the industry dropped this inclusivity nonsense and just published "white girl saves the world, falls in love with boy."
 
when I wrote a straight-relationship in my book, my literary agent asked if I could put something "gay" in it
Fucking knew they force authors to add this, my mom was reading one of those novels about semi-frumpy, middle aged bri'ish single moms finding love, and even those now have completely unnecessary lesbian relationships in them
 
Any reason why they are so hell bent on pandering to a single digit percentage of the population? Also I think this is the sort of bait and switch that would piss a gay person off if they were trying to find something to read.
At that time in the late 2010s, and probably still now, every major "book award" such as the Hugos had a shortlist which was 90% queer themes or featured a queer main character.

Books are sold by an agent to some young editor at a publishing house with ambitions of clawing up the ladder, and those rungs are carved from A) best selling books or B) their books getting awards. As the young editor is not going to be able to command the amount of company marketing cash to guarantee a bestseller, (that'll go to their boss who probably is a raging terf) the next most likely corporate advancement scheme is the one that get awards. A book with "queers" in it will get visibility in special lists every month there is a trans/gay visibility/remembrance day, the book will more likely make award lists, and reviewers can virtue signal progressiveness /ward off cancellation by promoting this big ol' queer book.

Interestingly the REAL big ol' gays that I know would never stoop to this level, they are too busy honoring the (non identitarian) geniuses of yesteryear. I've never seen a real gay or lesbo get fully embroiled in this fucking nonsense, sigh.
 
Fucking knew they force authors to add this, my mom was reading one of those novels about semi-frumpy, middle aged bri'ish single moms finding love, and even those now have completely unnecessary lesbian relationships in them

Yeah, in many cases with the hoops authors have to jump through, this "addition" is not their idea, someone has made a big suggestion that is not really suggesting and more like ORDERING.

Anecdotal story time, but with regards to the hetero sex scenes in my book ,everyone on the publishing team was going wild about how it was PURE FUCKING EROTICA (it was the blandest Mills and Boon vanilla shit) and it literally got me into huge arguments why they were trying to market a brief vanilla encounter as PURE FILTH. This is a couple of years before the "Romantasy boom", mind you, so it didn't have any comparison titles.

A friend of mine wrote a book with the wildest fucking lesbo banging scenes in it and it was just considered plain fantasy. Nobody mentioned the sex at all.

Later I realized that even though lesbian fantasy stuff is highly regarded for its prestige, fucking 0.1% of the population actually finds it arousing. A lesbian scene is not really turning anyone on. Hetero sex scenes make people go nuts, because no matter how much signalling there is in books, there's no sex quite as amazing as the good old straight-style.

Isn't that the definition of sapphic? XD

Sorry, you had such a potential pun there I couldn't resist.
Ha! Well I will forgive fan fiction and shippers - at least they do their shit because it's sexy to them and not because they are trying to win clout and "progressive points"!
 
Personal anecdote time. I am someone who for several years has been intricately involved with 99Designs, the place where companies go to hire artists to design their logos. Authors use it often to hire book artists.
In the true story I'm about to relay, there was a "male leftist feminist" NA horror author who was looking for an artist to create the look for his "strong independent leftist" woman main character in her early twenties. He hosted a contest, and artists swarmed the page to submit illustrations. He plopped more than half thousand dollars into the contest that would all be awarded to the winner. The illustration that was winning the contest was illustrated by a man. He may have used AI art also against the male feminists wishes.

Our male feminist contest host showed one of the feminist woman designers in the contest the leading design, and he told her she would win if she was able to copy it and submit it as her design-just do enough changes to the background so it doesn't look like a copy and do it without any of the AI.

The feminist woman artist agreed. She did it and won the contest.
 
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...someone has made a big suggestion that is not really suggesting and more like ORDERING...everyone on the publishing team was going wild about how it was PURE FUCKING EROTICA...market a brief vanilla encounter as PURE FILTH...

...wildest fucking lesbo banging scenes in it and it was just considered plain fantasy...

...lesbian fantasy stuff...for its prestige...Hetero sex scenes make people go nuts...
So the master check list to get published is
  1. Brown biracial main heroine
  2. Have her start out as lesbian (with scene) and then have her discover she's bisexual (with scene)
  3. Have the male love interest be the supposed main villain (for those enemies to lovers and redemption arch tropes)
  4. Have in your face racist injustice for the heroine to fight against
  5. Have in your face sexist injustice for the heroine to fight against
  6. Have slave rebellion for your heroine to lead (ties in with the racist injustice)
  7. Have several minority characters (for found family trope)
  8. Have the true big bad evil guy be a white male
I'm sure I'm missing something. Anyone have any suggestions for the list?
 
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