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Wasn't Alex Gino the guy who wrote that one YA book about some troon kid/tumblrgender and the book had tons of descriptions of preteen boys in their underwear and shit? Or was that one of these other books? Wouldn't be surprised if there's at least a few NAMBLA types in the YA market (considering there's pedos in every other entertainment field) using books as child grooming material.
SamTheEagle said:
It was either r/fantasy or r/writing where I found someone claiming that any author writing a feudal society has a responsibility to make it clear that feudalism is A Bad Thing, or else they're supporting it and they're evil or some shit.
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Got a screencap of this lunacy? But seriously, are there any unironic feudalists out there that make this such a worrying threat? And should anyone even bother to write fantasy (outside of some grimdark "everyone sucks" ASOIAF knockoff) considering "good" societies in fantasy are usually oligarchic republics or monarchies or other governments not approved by Current Year progressives?
 
Save the Loli said:
And should anyone even bother to write fantasy (outside of some grimdark "everyone sucks" ASOIAF knockoff) considering "good" societies in fantasy are usually oligarchic republics or monarchies or other governments not approved by Current Year progressives?
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They should go all the way and write fantasy where it's governed exactly like Current Year.

"King Arthur, Pict Lives Matter is setting up a Camelot Hill Autonomous Zone!"
 
Right, right, back to the drawing board. Maybe my Arthurian Britain can have trade routes with Wakanda or something :lol:
 
Mola Ram said:
Hey, if they could finagle a black Muslim into Robin Hood all the way back in 1991, you can figure something out that'll get Arthur into a daishiki.
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Arthur in a daishiki is cultural appropriation. CANCELLED!

(Unless he's a gay Wakandan prince who's decided to uplift the poor benighted native Britons who can't figure out hygiene by themselves.)
 
SamTheEagle said:
It was either r/fantasy or r/writing where I found someone claiming that any author writing a feudal society has a responsibility to make it clear that feudalism is A Bad Thing, or else they're supporting it and they're evil or some shit.
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Reminds me of this review of The Mists of Avalon. Male feminist clucking about women doing middle age shit in the middle ages rather than being written as "strong female characters."

The Arthur myth from the point of view of Morgaine le Fay, pagan priestess. Supposedly a feminist take on the old legends. There is one main problem with this approach: let's face it, women's lives in the dark ages were pretty boring. And rather than break out of this mold with strong female characters, Bradley talks a lot about spinning, weaving, and having babies. The female characters are either contemptible or irritating, or both. The male characters are cardboard--Arthur is as heroic as a limp dishrag, Merlin just an old man sitting in his rocking chair. The pagan-Christian thing is overwrought and shrill, devolving mostly into interminable theological debates between characters that cover the same ground over and over and over again.
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Whatever else one might criticize Marion Zimmer Bradley for, and, yeah, there's a lot to criticize, writing a take about the Arthurian myth to accurately reflect the time period being one of those criticisms has always struck me as a bit odd. I guess I need to get with the program.
 
Elwood P. Dowd said:
Reminds me of this review of The Mists of Avalon. Male feminist clucking about women doing middle age shit in the middle ages rather than being written as "strong female characters."



Whatever else one might criticize Marion Zimmer Bradley for, and, yeah, there's a lot to criticize, writing a take about the Arthurian myth to accurately reflect the time period being one of those criticisms has always struck me as a bit odd. I guess I need to get with the program.
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That’s hilarious. Don’t criticize her for letting/helping her husband molest multiple children, criticize that she made too realistic a story.

I have to admit I never read the book. I tried because it was labeled fantasy, but found it dry as dust.
 
neverendingmidi said:
That’s hilarious. Don’t criticize her for letting/helping her husband molest multiple children, criticize that she made too realistic a story.

I have to admit I never read the book. I tried because it was labeled fantasy, but found it dry as dust.
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TBF the review was written long before the child abuse stuff all came out.

The review just seemed so off the wall an attitude to take at the time I read it, it has always stuck with me.
 
PurpleEater said:
I love the cows of the YA/Book SJW Twitter community. They provide endless amusement. It's like a spergout in an Intro to Philosophy course at a bad community college.

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Recently they all guilted each other into sharing how much they'd been paid per book, which insulted in lots of back-and-forth sperging about how evil whites were paid more (there were no actual statistics released from what I could find, just selective outrage/confirmation bias at seeing several white people apparently get lots of money):

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They’ll call you a Nazi for writing a black character and they’ll call you a Nazi if there aren’t any black characters. You are a Nazi no matter what due to how you were born.
 
Looks like it's Elizabeth Bear and Scott Lynch

The accusation -

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The rebuttal -

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Elizabeth Bear on Twitter: "Hi folks. I see a post dropped overnight.…

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I know Elizabeth Bear was involved in something called Racefail, which I believe people are still made about. You can learn more here, but it is absolutely the most headache-inducing thing you will read all day.

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Flaming Carrot said:
Looks like it's Elizabeth Bear and Scott Lynch

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I know Elizabeth Bear was involved in something called Racefail, which I believe people are still made about. You can learn more here, but it is absolutely the most headache-inducing thing you will read all day.

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I find it exceedingly difficult to accept the idea that someone can be "groomed" at the age of 25. It sounds more like bullshit relationship drama among three very dysfunctional people.
 
Flaming Carrot said:
Looks like it's Elizabeth Bear and Scott Lynch

The accusation -


The rebuttal -


I know Elizabeth Bear was involved in something called Racefail, which I believe people are still made about. You can learn more here, but it is absolutely the most headache-inducing thing you will read all day.

RaceFail '09 - Fanlore

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Both of them use they/them pronouns, so at least we know that the two of them are delusional.
 
Mola Ram said:
I find it exceedingly difficult to accept the idea that someone can be "groomed" at the age of 25. It sounds more like bullshit relationship drama among three very dysfunctional people.
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To be honest, Id never heard the term grooming used to refer to an adult relationship until about a week ago. I'd always heard it in the context of guys trying to start relationships with 12-year-olds on the Internet or something like that. Not 27-year-olds mad that sucking Warren Ellis' dick didn't land them a job writing Batman.
 
Another book cancelled because some Grand Inquisitor cunt from Twitter decided all on her lonesome that Gullah characters should ONLY be written by Gullah writers, assuming you can find any, and certainly not some fat white whore who doesn't know her fucking place.

The saddest part is how quickly the writer buckled. Put up a fight, you useless twat, or this will never stop.

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EDIT: Archived because the usual gang of screeching harpies on Twitter are demanding Publishers Weekly edit the article so as not to name the censorious bitch (Bethany Morrow) who called out the author, because I guess she's being harassed now. Hey, you don't want the attention, don't play the game.

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Authors really need to start telling these assholes to shove it instead of caving in to their demands every time, or we're gonna end up with a ton of art getting destroyed for no reason.
 
Piga Dgrifm said:
Authors really need to start telling these assholes to shove it instead of caving in to their demands every time, or we're gonna end up with a ton of art getting destroyed for no reason.
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I'm going through her Twitter feed now. It's by turns enraging and incredibly sad. She apologizes over and over again, and when randos step in to say she shouldn't censor herself, she literally says, "Don't defend me."

Fucking cringe-inducing.
 
Piga Dgrifm said:
Authors really need to start telling these assholes to shove it instead of caving in to their demands every time, or we're gonna end up with a ton of art getting destroyed for no reason.
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It was bad enough before this hysteria flared up after the Floyd murder, but now with all these companies and entertainers folding as a result of this #metoo of microaggressions, if you are one of the few who doesn’t, the target only gets larger and the vitriol more deranged. Even still, better that than apologizing and having your publisher pull the book. They’ll pull it no matter what and the Twitter mob won’t be happy with any apology. They are no different than the extremists who forced Salman Rushdie into hiding.
 
Someone in a Tree said:
It was bad enough before this hysteria flared up after the Floyd murder, but now with all these companies and entertainers folding as a result of this #metoo of microaggressions, if you are one of the few who doesn’t, the target only gets larger and the vitriol more deranged. Even still, better that than apologizing and having your publisher pull the book. They’ll pull it no matter what and the Twitter mob won’t be happy with any apology. They are no different than the extremists who forced Salman Rushdie into hiding.
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The whole "if you're not speaking up and supporting this violent movement then you're complicit in killing black people" idiocy has made things exponentially worse. Everyone is on a hair trigger now, and the mildest transgression can get you killed.
 
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