YIIK: A Post Modern RPG / Ackk Studios / Andrew Allanson - "I wanted to make a game with a protagonist who was very unlikeable" - From Someone who is equally unlikeable. Currently developing Version I.V (1.5)

[Strangolapreti]

I can't care about Rory's sister's death because he's such an insufferable queer. I'd tell him to kill himself but he's a pacifist.

-Bowl cut
-Pacifist
-"Fights" with a stick
-Ask enemies not to fight
-Horizontal striped shirt
Were the Allansons trying to mock undertale with this character?

"Yiik is the millennial take on Earthbound."

I would give that term to titles like omori or undertale itself, Yiik is something else, it felt like the a parody of what the quirky earthbound inspired rpgs are;
Like earthbound, it has dynamic combat but it's for the sake of making fight slower rather than give it a faster pace, and unlike EB, the world isn't large and filled with content but rather it it feels overblown despite being smaller due to how bad is to traverse each dungeon (between combat encounters taking minutes, bad "puzzles" like the sewer's obstacles needing to be cleared and the poison water in the cave, also interruption for NPCs discussing worthless garbage), the soundtrack sounds strange, with themes that feels strange and aliens, most of the time they make for a surprisingly fitting situation; but most of the time they also aren't good songs by themselves, there's a focus on quirk and eccentricity but there's no a concrete tether to reality (something most EB inspired games have), which makes all feel more tiring; finally, most characters felt like they only had the surface of personality, talk a lot but in the end says nothing.
The demo did fixed the combat and hints at characters having more depth, the first dungeon never was never that bad to traverse and without the old combat system exploring it surely was a better experience, but there's still the problem with enstablishing the reality that is soon breaking; which may have been made worse with the new additions, but there's a slight chance the game might work without it and by making everything full insane, if it results in something more weird than Hylics.

 

[Coolio55]

-Bowl cut
-Pacifist
-"Fights" with a stick
-Ask enemies not to fight
-Horizontal striped shirt
Were the Allansons trying to mock undertale with this character?

>Dead sibling
>Awkward dating segment
>VA'd by someone with "yuri" in his name
>Shy nerd character becomes an hero
>Hot mom

Oh no! It's real!

 

[Strangolapreti]

>Hot mom

Rory's mom is all legs, toriel is all snails.

 

[GratsTheat783]

I watched the OneyPlays never-to-be-finished playthrough of it and became very interested in the story, although the gameplay was admittedly terrible. I plan to play it myself once the full update comes out. The demo was quite good. I've heard that you get a special card if you beat the tutorial boss that makes the combat a lot more fun. Apparently, you need to get the bandages and medical equipment left on the kitchen counter and just spam bandages whenever you start bleeding.

By the way, have you guys played the YIIK proto-types? The art styles are quite different and in one of them, Frankton is a far bigger town. Double check the controls though, I got stuck outside the factory because one of them wasn't bound to a key. Also, do not press ESC or any of the F# keys because I accidentally restarted one of them when I was well into it.

0.25: https://drive.usercontent.google.co...at=APZUnTXUwmXfvnpgkeyrPCWxnfWo:1712916405737
May 11th 2014 build: https://archive.org/details/y-2k-pcbuild

 

[GratsTheat783]

I've been playing through YIIK. I put it onto easy mode since the combat looked long and boring and also turned on infinite slow-mode. It's been alright, there's been some annoying parts, like the puzzles in Vella's mind dungeon and a minor annoyance at the Mountain Town Dungeon. One thing I realised that the playthrough on Oneyplays ignored was that the game gives you plenty of tools to avoid enemy encounters. It becomes a lot less hassle once you start using these to avoid encounters.

I've been paying attention to the ONISM Board and I noticed that Alex actually has 2 accounts. There's his SNESMAN29 account, which we know is him because he says so in-game.
But there is also another called reactionnod. I think this is him as, he posts about having a panda toy as a child (Panda is Alex's imaginary friend that talks to him).

He makes a post asking for the Ultima LP Legend disk, which only Alex would know about.

From these 2, I think we can say that it's Alex's alt account.

His post about the record contradicts what happens in-game, as in the post, Alex read and knew that Vella Wilde made the album, while in-game, he claims to have not read the cover. We also see some other posts from him that show:
He made the first post about the elevator girl, Semi Pak

He loves her.

He also likes to act as a bit of a minge, sending this message to Claudio (I don't think he knows Claudio at the point he sent it).

Micheal is VERAFormer. This post implies he knew Rory's sister. Rory says he was learning how to make games and what he says about the brother seems to apply to Rory perfectly.

I'm not sure how old Micheal, but Rory's sister was 12 when she committed suicide. Her suicide was pretty recent in the game.

These last 2 are unrelated, but I found them funny.

 

[Haramburger]

Even though they're fake I hate all of these Alex sock account posts and want to neg rate or report all of them. It's incredible how bad this guy is as a writer, in every way, in every medium.

 

[Coolio55]

Strangely enough, reactionnod's panda is stated to have pink instead of black patches.
Could he be some strange alternate Alex?

Also - there's a fairly flagrant historical quirk regarding Michael's post VS Rory's dialogue on the game Rory was programming.
If Rory was programming for DOS, he probably wouldn't have been using Objective C. That's always been mainly for NEXT/Mac programmers.
It would've made more sense for him to use Pascal or a BASIC dialect or something.

 

[LucasSomething]

I never played the game but other than one critic (tehsnakerer?) almost every youtuber i saw ignores onism board completely, which i kinda can't blame since the real world gameplay ignores it most of the time.

The little i seen tho shows there is some weird shit implied in ONISM that is clearly intentional tho, it shows a hidden side of the characters, like Michael being a bit of an edgy Channer joking when someone says they kidnapped an user's brother ("pics or didnt happen").

Micheal is VERAFormer. This post implies he knew Rory's sister. Rory says he was learning how to make games and what he says about the brother seems to apply to Rory perfectly.

If the new content means anything, it's possible that Michael dated Rory's sister from a parallel world but this reveal was cut from the final game, as Rory himself is useless past act 2 and the only important thing michael does is point out he met an alternate version of himself online meaning it's possible ONISM has other people from alternate realities too.

Reactionnod could be an alternate version of Alex, one very internet edgy and more obcessed with Sami. I dont think our Alex would terrorize a random internet stranger for the "lulz", he's a jerk he's a narcissist.

I wonder if 1.5 update will actually focus on this? I remember posting this pic without much fanfare back then but i ONISM is straight up presented as a supernatural demon website so it should be more plot relevant.

 

[GratsTheat783]

I completed the game and got both endings. They were quite underwhelming. The first ending, it turns out that Alex has an irregular soul that has 2 people in control of it so it ends with him pulling the plug on the soul and then you become the owner of the soul and he and them become part of you. That sounds a bit off though, I must have misunderstood it somewhere. The second ending was about Alex falling completely into his delusion and leaving reality, hugging Semi in an elevator. I found it funny however that if you select no when Alex asks you to help him save the world, he calls you a piece of shit and you get a really quick credits sequence with an angry face at the end. I was disappointed however that the same thing happens if you decide to have Alex become part of Proto-Alex.Apparently there's a hidden third ending and NG+ has extra content that adds a bit more to the story.

Overall, I think it was alright. The gameplay was really slow and boring (if I use Panda's ability to guard the whole party, it will show a frame of each party member for 3 seconds with the message he is defending them, stuff like that was infuriating), but the delusional narrator was interesting. The areas also had a lot of life to them. I assume that if Alex is the only witness or one to react to an event, it should be questioned. I might play through New Game+ now, but I will probably wait until the I.V update comes out.

When I was trying to figure out what to do in quests for this game (there isn't much information unfortunately), I kept seeing hit articles about the game, one of them complaining that the game asks (or asked) you if you're male or female.

I found this Steam guide that's meant to be a review for YIIK, but goes on for ages, talking about unrelated topics and reviewing other games.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I completed the game and got both endings

Not gonna lie, these don't sound too good. I would need to play the game myself, or at least watch a video of it to judge for myself but the autism dump of an alternative ending I wrote not too long ago sounds better than this(altho anything is better than the endings that the 1.0 release came with)
They should have just brought back the cut ending that was found in the game files and be done with it.

 

[GratsTheat783]

Not gonna lie, these don't sound too good. I would need to play the game myself, or at least watch a video of it to judge for myself but the autism dump of an alternative ending I wrote not too long ago sounds better than this(altho anything is better than the endings that the 1.0 release came with)
They should have just brought back the cut ending that was found in the game files and be done with it.

I've done some reading on YIIK and apparently that ending isn't cut and is still in the game, it's just that no-one knows how you're actually meant to get it through normal gameplay. Either the devs are lying to keep people interested or they've made some absolutely autistic and obscure method of getting the true ending.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I've done some reading on YIIK and apparently that ending isn't cut and is still in the game, it's just that no-one knows how you're actually meant to get it through normal gameplay. Either the devs are lying to keep people interested or they've made some absolutely autistic and obscure method of getting the true ending.

No, I'm talking about the other cut ending, the one where you had a playable Celestia section and fought an alternative final boss. The ending there is much, much better but it was scrapped because the brothers were going thru a depression. There is a bunch of cut content for the game, not even counting playable betas and pre alphas floating around.

 

[GratsTheat783]

Apparently you can make Rory kill himself.

 

[FatMebius]

Apparently you can make Rory kill himself.

Yeah. Dunno if they fixed the bug where his dialogue plays anyways though

 

[deepfriedfritter]

I've done some reading on YIIK and apparently that ending isn't cut and is still in the game, it's just that no-one knows how you're actually meant to get it through normal gameplay. Either the devs are lying to keep people interested or they've made some absolutely autistic and obscure method of getting the true ending.

It is 100% the devs lying.

Almost everything about the third/fourth ending was poorly documented as most of it was on the devs' twitter or the fan discord. The various hints the devs would drop are completely lost/deleted. On their discord, the devs said that the dax npc to even get started unlocking it was in a different location for each platform which is really stupid if you want your playerbase to find him. There use to be a pastebin that had a timeline from when the devs said there was a hidden ending all the way to around mid 2020 where fuck all progress was made. Nowadays there's just a google document that's mostly debunking the popular opinion that the cut ending was indeed cut content (with one bit about finding an "Onism cipher"); but unless you're one of the Yiik-faithful you won't be able to get the password to read it.

Even then one look at the cut ending should clue you in that it's very much not finished. It's mostly made up of static shots of the boss standing around while Alex talks to Essentia without moving his mouth. (One of these static shots is just a top-down view of the arena for most of the runtime) Also Essentia's eyes don't light up when she speaks like in the other cut scenes. On top of that, the audio mixing is really different from the latter half of the game, and it sounds very similiar to the mix in the beginning of the game where it is next to impossible to hear the voice actors. But why stop at that, back in 2015 the devs put out a demo called "Episode Prime" that's just the Mt. Moon dungeon; and if you opened the game in any unity asset ripper you can find the game's entire script from start to finish. Weirdly enough the story ends at that cut ending almost like that was the intended ending to begin with.

ORBITING.AN.EARTH
ALEX
[How did I get here? How had I found this planet on my own?];
[How is the meteorite not already here?];
[Something is happening. Somewhere in the isolated recesses of my mind, like a warm light in the distance, an idea is forming.];
[A completely human, genius, and kind-intentioned idea. Something that no other version of me would do.];
[And now my body is filled with that overwhelming feeling that I am about to do the "right thing."];
[I always made a choice, a lazy choice.];
[Not today. Today, I choose differently.];
APPROACHING.EARTH
ALEX
[As I approached the planet, I wondered about the nature of their reality.];
[Could I intervene?];
[Was there another me in this reality?];
ALEX.ASKS.PLAYER.FOR.HELP
ALEX
[Before you answer, {ALEX}, I want to thank you for listening to my long story.];
[I'm afraid that this reality will soon end.];
[And once again, you'll be destroyed, along with Vella, Chondra, Rory, Claudio, and Michael.];
[{ALEX}, I have drifted aimlessly in the Soul Space, and it is terrifying.];
[With each passing moment, I lost a tiny portion of myself.];
[Each time I witnessed the various versions of myself extinguish life in another reality, I lost an even greater piece.];
[Alone, tired, terrified, I saw everything with such terrific clarity that my own mind felt vague and boundless.];
[Coming to you, asking for help, I think about how The Essentia 2000 must have felt first coming to me.];
[When I'm looking at you, I get this feeling like you've made up your mind long before I even asked for your help.];
[So what do you say: Will you help me defeat parallel versions of ourself?];
QUESTION
Yes=PLAYER.HELPS.ALEX;
No=PLAYER.REFUSES.ALEX;
PLAYER.HELPS.ALEX
ALEX
[Good. I understand that in your reality, you interface with the Soul Space via a gaming device?];
[Man, I wish I had one of those. That would've made my life so much easier!];
PLAYER.REFUSES.ALEX
ALEX
[Fine. I guess you're one of the bad guys. I thought you were different.];
[I thought my story would be enough to get you off your ass and make you do something with your life!!];
[If you don't reconsider, everyone here is going to die.];
[What do you say?];
QUESTION
On second thought...=PLAYER.HELPS.ALEX;
Let the world burn=PLAYER.CONFIRMS.REFUSE.ALEX;
PLAYER.CONFIRMS.REFUSE.ALEX
ALEX
[I thought my story would be enough to get you off your ass and make you do something with your life!!];
ALEX.TELLS.PLAYER.PLAN
ALEX
[There are many things I have to tell you.];
[But to tell you everything would probably take a very long time. Hours, maybe.];
[I wish I could say how sorry I am for everything that has happened to you in your parallel lives because of my mistakes.];
[Unfortunately, I lacked the courage to act in the past, but I plan to make up for it today.];
[In my reality, I knew you all as Michael, Vella, Rory, Claudio, and Chondra.];
[In many lives, you were different things to me. But names and relationships don't matter.];
[What matters is how much you've always been there for me. I want you all to join me once again and do something absolutely crazy.];
[I plan on confronting Proto-me, and destroying it.];
[I don't know what will happen when I get there, but I've faced this thing before and I think I know what I need to do to defeat it-- Me-- Well, us.];
[Me and You.];
ALEX.MEETS.PLAYER.FRIENDS
ALEX
Michael! Is that you!?;
Holy crap, you look awesome like that!!;
Er, sorry. You're Michael to me, I don't know your name here.;
{MICHAEL}
No problem! So, what's going on?;
{VELLA}
Basically this guy Alex, and {ALEX}, is extremely lazy in a lot of parallel lives, and his inaction and other appalling personality flaws are going to be the death of us all. Is that right?;
ALEX
Yeah, something like that.;
{CHONDRA}
It's nice to meet you!;
Wow, you're a lot shorter than {ALEX}.;
ALEX
Yep. Lay it on me. Guess that's one thing that isn't different in this reality.;
{RORY}
Yo! Let's do this. I've always wanted to punch you, so I'm pumped.;
ALEX
I'm game!;
{CLAUDIO}
Hey man. So we're going to save the world huh?;
Man I've always wanted to do that!;
{THEESSENTIA2000}
So it would appear as if I have succeeded in a parallel life.;
ALEX
I can't promise any other worlds will be safe from me, but I can promise we're going to save this one!;
Okay guys. Let's do this.;
This is going to be the hardest thing I've ever done. But I know we can do it!!;
ALEX.MEETS.PLAYER.FRIENDS.RORY.DEAD
ALEX
Michael! Is that you!?;
Holy crap, you look awesome like that!!;
Er, sorry. You're Michael to me, I don't know your name here.;
{MICHAEL}
No problem! So, what's going on?;
{VELLA}
Basically this guy Alex, and {ALEX}, is extremely lazy in a lot of parallel lives, and his inaction and other appalling personality flaws are going to be the death of us all. Is that right?;
ALEX
Yeah, something like that.;
{CHONDRA}
It's nice to meet you!;
Wow, you're a lot shorter than {ALEX}.;
ALEX
Yep. Lay it on me. Guess that's one thing that isn't different in this reality.;
{CLAUDIO}
Hey man. So we're going to save the world huh?;
Man I've always wanted to do that!;
{THEESSENTIA2000}
So it would appear as if I have succeeded in a parallel life.;
ALEX
I can't promise any other worlds will be safe from me, but I can promise we're going to save this one!;
Okay guys. Let's do this.;
This is going to be the hardest thing I've ever done. But I know we can do it!!;
PROTO.ALEX.BOSS.ONE
PROTO-ALEX
I don't want to fight with you. Go away. I just want to consume.;
{VELLA}
What the hell are you consuming realities for!?;
Why do you have to do this!!;
PROTO-ALEX
I MUST HAVE SPECTACLE! I MUST HAVE PRESENTATION. Come on, entertain me.;
{VELLA}
There's no reasoning with this one!;
Sorry, Alex, {ALEX}, looks like we have no choice!;
PROTO.ALEX.BOSS.TWO
PROTO-ALEX
It's too far.;
I can't reach it.;
This is too hard.;
I just want to sleep.;
Won't you sleep with me?;
PROTO.ALEX.BOSS.THREE
PROTO-ALEX
HEY! DON'T COME IN HERE! THIS IS PRIVATE!;
PROTO.ALEX.BOSS.FOUR
PROTO-ALEX
The truth is, I'm not original.;
Everything I have to say that you've found interesting has been said before.;
This is just the first time you've heard it.;
I'm a quote machine. I string things together smarter people have said to make myself appear to have value.;
I'm the definition of pretentious. Forgive me.;
PROTO.ALEX.BOSS.FINAL
ALEX
[Looking at two dead parallel versions of myself and what appeared to be my Essentia 2000, I realized something that made my heart sink.];
[How many other mes had she tried to bring here?];
[How many countless parallel Alexes had tried to take down Proto-Alex?];
[My thoughts turn to the souls waiting on that far distant star-of-my-bedroom, waiting for their Essentias to return.];
[I now understood what she was trying to do.];
[For the ultimate goal of destroying Proto-Alex, The Essentia 2000 had gone to the source.];
[She sought out Alexes - all of which were about to make their choice.];
[She tried to get them to join her in the Soul Space to destroy Proto-Alex, but those too scared or unprepared were left on the star, waiting forever for her to return.];
[I now wonder, am I different?];
[Yes. I am different. I've come here on my own, not like a lovesick puppy following their beloved owner to certain death.];
[She did this because she had to.];
[Cruel, maybe. But necessary.];
THE ESSENTIA 2000
Alex!? And {ALEX}? What are you doing here!?;
ALEX
Essentia! What's happening right now?;
THE ESSENTIA 2000
I've failed you, time and time again, just as you've failed me.;
I have brought myself into a cycle. Time and time again, you entered my life and brought destruction and love.;
Time and time again, I entered yours and caused the same.;
ALEX
We can finish this, right?;
We can kill this bastard and get on with our lives!;
THE ESSENTIA 2000
I have failed so many times to kill this version of you.;
I've brought so much harm to the kind-intentioned versions of you.;
I cannot leave here without destroying this proto-monster!;
And {ALEX}, these are your friends?;
We have not yet met. I am The Essentia 2000, or rather that is how Alex knows me.;
This body is called The Essentia 9802.;
It is one of my spares.;
I have not entered your reality yet, as you do not yet face the choice of what direction your life would take.;
I see Alex beat me to it.;
ALEX
Okay, enough of the talking.;
Let's get down to kicking this thing's ass!!;
INSPECT.DEAD.ALEX.ONE
ALEX
I wonder what I was like in this parallel life...;
INSPECT.DEAD.ALEX.TWO
ALEX
His potential will never be realized.;
AFTER.FINAL.BOSS
THE ESSENTIA 2000
It's over.;
I can't believe it is over.;
Do you hear the music?;
Beautiful isn't it?;
I wrote that about you, you know?;
It's in moments like this when experiencing the multidimensional emotions becomes trying.;
In Vella's reality, I hated you. In your reality, you confused Vella.;
However as a whole, you are one of the most interesting souls in the whole Soul Space.;
The words to this song begin, 'Can you hear my heart is calling'. When I wrote those words I thought I was calling you, begging you to understand the destruction you left in your wake.;
Perhaps, we called each other. In my infinite ignorance, I hurt you just as you hurt me.;
Interesting, isn't it? Even I didn't see that.;
ALEX
It's over now.;
Please, let's just deal with that later.;
THE ESSENTIA 2000
I understand. What do you want to do?;
ALEX
I want to find a reality that doesn't have a parallel version of me.;
I want to go live with my friends. I want to go try and help people, help them how you helped me.;
Only maybe with a little more caution.;
[But first, I want to thank you, {ALEX}.];
[You're truly awesome. You're the me I wish I could've been.];
[You picked up the fight without having to be asked.];
[You knew the right thing to do without needing an angelic android, or whatever, to come save you.];
[You didn't need your reality to be destroyed to understand that things were getting bad.];
[I guess you have the foresight I lacked.];
AFTER.BOSS.DEFEATED.ALEX.VO
ALEX
[I've been thinking about the word "Proto."];
[As I drifted aimlessly through the Soul Space, I wracked my brain to understand why we used it to describe Michael when he experienced his parallel lives.];
[I remembered school, in English class. Proto is an English prefix meaning "first."];
[I've come to believe that the truest and original form of our souls is unity.];
[We live separate, parallel lives over multiple dimensions.];
[We do things, and at the same time we do not do them.];
[We are all outcomes. We are no outcome.];
[So, I guess that Proto-Michael was a unified version of himself - the outcome of all of his possibilities meeting.];
[So, does that mean my truest nature was to be destruction?];
[I don't know. I'd probably rather not think about that.];
[Maybe we shouldn't care about "truest nature."];
[It's like when someone tells me they don't "Know themselves" anymore.];
[Like it was a piece of information they forgot.];
[Like they see a sentence that defines who they are, and their ADD wipes it from their memory the moment it's obscured by a strange day or a random change in life.];
[I can't define myself based on what I used to be.];
[I used to be lazy, now I'm not.];
[I used to be selfish, now I'm not as selfish as I once was.];
[We change. That's what I should worry about -changing for the better.];
AFTER.BOSS.DEFEATED.VELLA.VO
VELLA
Somewhere, in another world, another reality, I'm living the life you're living.;
I'm trying my best to be like you and you're trying your best to not be like me.;
I guess that's pretty cool.
AFTER.BOSS.DEFEATED.RORY.VO
RORY
Somewhere, in another reality, you have everything you ever wanted.;
Even still, I wouldn't trade my reality for any other.;
AFTER.BOSS.DEFEATED.CLAUDIO.VO
CLAUDIO
Somewhere, out there, there are things we can't explain.;
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.;
Let's keep going. Keep learning. Keep fighting. I think we'll get there.;
AFTER.BOSS.DEFEATED.CHONDRA.VO
CHONDRA
Time goes on and on and on - you get the picture.;
That's pretty cool if you think about it.;
Even when we're not here, something always is, even if that thing is nothing.;
AFTER.BOSS.DEFEATED.MICHAEL.VO
MICHAEL
I'll be you and you can be me.;
I think we'd still get along just the same.;
Although I'd probably like you a little less.;
BUS.DESTINATION.FROM.FRANKTON
SYSTEM
Where would you like to go?;
QUESTION
Wind Town=DESTINATION.GOTO.WINDTOWN;
Stay in Frankton=DESTINATION.STAY.IN.FRANKTON;
BUS.DESTINATION.FROM.WINDTOWN.BEFORE.LP
SYSTEM
Where would you like to go?;
QUESTION
Frankton=DESTINATION.GOTO.FRANKTON;
Stay in Wind Town=DESTINATION.STAY.IN.WINDTOWN;

Currently you can access the hidden ending through the lighthouse.



Apparently you're suppose to enter the arena via Essentia twice.



So no the cut ending isn't the third ending. It's more believable that the devs changed the narrative that it was instead of admitting they made it up as they went along.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

The game really feels like the narrative/gameplay changed multiple times in both big and small ways over the full course of the development, but not in a way where the story and gameplay followed the same path. Story setups that go nowhere, a ton of stuff that comes out of nowhere, party members that become practically irrelevant the moment after they’re introduced, this general feel of “this game is just too smart for you”…if you ever heard/say/played anything of the developer’s “Two Brothers” game, you’ll notice a very distinct trend. The game’s been pulled from stream since forever, but there is an existing screenshot LP that goes over the entire game, how badly it was broken, the story, ect.

https://www.lp.zone/t/how-many-brothers-does-it-take-to-screw-in-a-lightbulb-lets-dunk-on-two-brothers-until-it-breaks/3988

 

[GratsTheat783]

Do you think Rory's suicide is canon or not? A theory I've seen around is that Rory kills himself canonically regardless of the options you choose. Alex either makes up stuff about Rory to make himself look better and or tries to pass off some of the responsibility to you since you have to choose the options that cause it. The evidence is that Alex already manipulates the narrative a lot and toward the end of the game, a lot of the interactions might be entirely made-up since they are quite strange

Spoiler: Strange Interactions

Chondra telling Alex to ask her any 2 questions he wants and then yelling at him if he asks about her brother. Claudio commenting out of nowhere about how Alex feels like a brother to him. Vella suddenly being in love with Alex and willing to allow him to kiss her despite not being interested earlier. Micheal suddenly attaining Nirvana. All of them willing to believe Alex's tale about the world ending and none of them mentioning how he disappeared without a trace into a van a few days ago.

Also, in the KNN ending, Alex is able to enter the room that only people with dead friends can enter regardless of whether Rory committed suicide. Rory appears there if he died and says he forgives you (he uses the player's name, that ending uses the player's name over Alex's name in all the dialoge) and asks you to look out better for those around you.

I don't believe it because while Alex is selfish and delusional, I don't think he's so bad to the point he'd make up events about someone he knew personally who died. Why would that be the only thing he decides to give you responsibility over? I think it's more likely just some weird mental health awareness thing they put into the game.

Why is the player's name used in the KNN ending?

 

[LucasSomething]

Do you think Rory's suicide is canon or not? A theory I've seen around is that Rory kills himself canonically regardless of the options you choose. Alex either makes up stuff about Rory to make himself look better and or tries to pass off some of the responsibility to you since you have to choose the options that cause it. The evidence is that Alex already manipulates the narrative a lot and toward the end of the game, a lot of the interactions might be entirely made-up since they are quite strange

Spoiler: Strange Interactions

Chondra telling Alex to ask her any 2 questions he wants and then yelling at him if he asks about her brother. Claudio commenting out of nowhere about how Alex feels like a brother to him. Vella suddenly being in love with Alex and willing to allow him to kiss her despite not being interested earlier. Micheal suddenly attaining Nirvana. All of them willing to believe Alex's tale about the world ending and none of them mentioning how he disappeared without a trace into a van a few days ago.

Also, in the KNN ending, Alex is able to enter the room that only people with dead friends can enter regardless of whether Rory committed suicide. Rory appears there if he died and says he forgives you (he uses the player's name, that ending uses the player's name over Alex's name in all the dialoge) and asks you to look out better for those around you.

I don't believe it because while Alex is selfish and delusional, I don't think he's so bad to the point he'd make up events about someone he knew personally who died. Why would that be the only thing he decides to give you responsibility over? I think it's more likely just some weird mental health awareness thing they put into the game.

Why is the player's name used in the KNN ending?

What i don't get is that right after Alex finds out about rory's death, he gives a very long speech on "You did this because YOU dont care" and i really can't tell if that the world's most pretentious guilt trip for the player or another unreliable narrator trait where Alex paints himself as the victim and we're supposed to hate him for that.




There is also rory's super edgy suicide note that feels out of character. If Rory's suicide is canon then either Rory's ghost actually forgives him or Alex imagines Rory forgiving him and both outcomes are equally awful. But befriending Rory doenst work that well thematically either because Alex doesnt improve as a person anyway.

One other thing that hurts the game (IMO) is that Alex VA tries really hard to sound genuine every scene so you never feel the unreliable narrator or the hypocrite slip. I want to think it's not canon and it's terrible surprise guilt trip attempt cause if it's canon Alex is too unforgivable regardless.

 

[GratsTheat783]

There is also rory's super edgy suicide note that feels out of character.

Edgy suicide note? I tried looking it up, but found nothing about that A lot of stuff in the game isn't really documented. Do you have a screenshot of it?

One other thing that hurts the game (IMO) is that Alex VA tries really hard to sound genuine every scene so you never feel the unreliable narrator or the hypocrite slip.

Do you think the game would have been received better if it had no voice acting at all like originally planned? They only had it fully voiced because the publisher pressured them to.

 

[Don Yagon]

Do you have a screenshot of it?

I think most if not all ONISM posts are duplicated on onism1999.com itself, so here it is. Worth noting that Rory's username (BearsNecessity) is written in lowercase there, which made some speculate that might not be Rory from Alex's reality.