You know coffee doesn't have to taste like shit? - Black coffee discussion

Stasi said:
So uh...anyone else like to put evaporated milk into their coffee?

I only really use milk for coffee so went through a period of only getting those little cans of evaporated milk because fresh stuff would just go bad in my fridge. It makes the coffee super rich, definitely not for everyone.

Now I just get full fat long life milk or whatever it's called. The stuff that keeps for a long time.
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I love it. I normally only get one cup of coffee out of a whole can because I'll keep picking at it during the day. Drinking it out the can
 
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When I was a kid living with my dad, we used to drink this all the time and it was the only time I’ve ever enjoyed coffee with anything added.
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Stasi said:
So uh...anyone else like to put evaporated milk into their coffee?
I only really use milk for coffee so went through a period of only getting those little cans of evaporated milk because fresh stuff would just go bad in my fridge. It makes the coffee super rich, definitely not for everyone.

Now I just get full fat long life milk or whatever it's called. The stuff that keeps for a long time.
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If you mean sweetened/condensed milk, it's you and the entire country of Thailand.
 
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HullDown said:
If you mean sweetened/condensed milk, it's you and the entire country of Thailand.
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Nah not the sugary goop, I mean the unsweetened runny milk from a can. I think its the stuff they make milk tea (which is also delicious btw) from in places like Hong Kong.
 
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I used to not like black coffee when I made drip coffee or with a pour over. It felt watery or lacking. I got myself a moka pot for Christmas recently. While it's not as concentrated as espresso, it's definitely stronger. Drinking it black this morning was quite nice.
 
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Coffee Druid said:
I used to not like black coffee when I made drip coffee or with a pour over. It felt watery or lacking. I got myself a moka pot for Christmas recently. While it's not as concentrated as espresso, it's definitely stronger. Drinking it black this morning was quite nice.
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The technique I use is to put coffee in a small pot, pour water on it, and heat until steams. The hot water absorbs and distributes the coffee well. Try to do this with the least amount of water, it will produce a stronger tasting drink. A small metal cup is even better for this.
 
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It's a mixed bag, there are dozens of ways to brew coffee, and then throw in thousands of different bean combinations, and roasts. I don't see how one method could be superior knowing all that. You can easily spend months trying different coffee beans, and everyone is going to have a slightly different opinion on what tastes right to them. It's very autistic to spend a couple years trying beans, because you can't waste the bag, and then trying different brewing methods for each bean, and then trying another bean a month later, rinse repeat until you find the one.

Usually black coffee "lovers" are recent converts, they always want you to drink it black too. "oh, just try it for a while don't worry you're gonna love it! It just took me a while to get USED to it." They have converted to black coffee, because they didn't realize 8 cups a day with milk and sugar has a caloric impact, and they are fat, but still need to fuel their caffeine addiction, or some other health related reason. Who am I to burst their bubble.

I think having other flavors in the cup, be it condensed milk, regular milk, or whatever make sense if they enhance/balance the bean out. Whatever the beans the Vietnamese use, they seem very dark, but the condensed milk lifts them up a bit and makes a nice drink on ice. Or maybe try a really light roast, use more beans/water ratio than a medium/dark roast, then add a little foamed milk and a couple drops of honey. In good food achieving that right balance of sweet/salty/bitter/sour in the right amounts is what makes it good. It's like you're telling me to grill my steak with no salt or anything, that doesn't make sense to me. Black coffee makes sense if I'm having some kind of brunch with rich/sweet foods, then it's a nice contrast to my meal. If I'm just having one cup, relaxing, give me foamed whole milk, and a hint of honey/sugar.

TL;DR coffee is autistic, and the addictive quality of caffeine biases peoples taste buds.
 
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Hippopatumus said:
I splurged on one of these a couple years back:
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Changed my life. It turns itself on in the morning and you just run the grinder, hit a couple buttons and it makes the espresso and foam automatically. Was never much of a coffee drinker before (got it for my wife), but now I don't start my day without it.
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What's it like having a kitchen that white?
 
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Huh, so I was making black coffee right all along ? First thought it just be wholly bitter and aromatic, for a coffee.

While still brewing black at least once a week 2 years after the first cup, still can't get used to the acidity.
 
Genichiro said:
Huh, so I was making black coffee right all along ? First thought it just be wholly bitter and aromatic, for a coffee.

While still brewing black at least once a week 2 years after the first cup, still can't get used to the acidity.
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Part of the acidity is the quality of the beans and the way you're making it. Cheaper and very dark roasts that you can get out of a super market are very acrid and sharp. A lighter roast may help but frankly there's nothing wrong with just a touch of milk or whatever you prefer in it. It's your food enjoy it as you like.
 
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