Young men reveal why so many of them are single: ‘Dates feel more like job interviews’

From: https://nypost.com/2023/03/01/rate-of-single-men-in-the-us-looking-for-dates-has-declined/

They’re single but they’re not mingling.

New data from the Pew Research Center has shown that 63% of men under 30 are single – up from 51% in 2019.

COVID isolation and women’s high expectations for something serious are the main reasons they’re avoiding going out and coupling up, young guys say.

“Dates feel more like job interviews now. Much more like ‘What can you do for me and where is this going?'” said Ian Breslow, a 28-year-old high school teacher who lives in Astoria.

“The ‘getting to know you’ period is gone and that doesn’t feel so great after coming out of isolation.”

He recalled a recent first date that went quite well until the woman interrogated him on their walk home.

“She literally asked me, ‘Would you rather our kids go to public or private school?’ Followed by several more extreme questions about getting married. I just started responding with what I knew she would hate the most to get her to leave,” Breslow told The Post.

Experts agree that women are certainly wanting more than ever before.

“The overall picture [is] that if a woman is going to go on a date with a man, chances are it’s not for a casual fling,” Ronald Levant, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Akron, told The Post.

“Especially if the woman is kind of getting close to 30, [she’s] thinking about the biological clock and wants to have a family,” he added.

Breslow isn’t looking to settle down and get married anytime soon, so he’d rather have casual flings.

“The way dating is currently just makes me want to hook up locally with no stress or strings attached,” he says. “Fortunately that part comes very easy … I’m unmotivated to search for something serious for the time being.”

Ian Breslow said the face of dating has changed greatly since COVID.
Andrew Bruno, a 28-year-old nurse from Bellmore, NY, says flirting in the post-COVID era just isn’t as fun as it once was.

“Being able to naturally approach people while out isn’t like it was pre-pandemic. People are still much less likely to leave their groups or cliques at a bar,” said Bruno. “They’re certainly less talkative and that’s lowered my incentive to put myself out there.”

He also said the pandemic, more than ever before, made dating apps the central means for meeting people — and he’s not a fan.

“That just really isn’t my style. Like there is a weekslong prerequisite before you can think about getting involved, even for casual things,” Bruno said. “I’d rather take all that effort and put it towards my career.”

And, like Breslow, he’s in no hurry to get hitched.

Andrew Bruno feels that people have become less approachable while out since COVID.
“I’m also still very young,” Bruno said. “I don’t feel the need to rush, especially if people don’t act as naturally as they did before COVID. Why would I put it all out there for someone who can’t or won’t hold a conversation?”

For Mike M., a 25-year-old in Queens, it’s his — not the opposite sex’s — social skills that are still battling a bad case of long COVID.

“I definitely can’t walk into a room and go talk to someone I’m interested [in] like I used to be able to. It feels like my outgoingness has suffered some atrophy,” Mike, who withheld his last name out of embarrassment, told The Post.

He’s also having less sex than he did pre-pandemic.

“I have definitely been going online to take care of my urges more than I have by seeing people,” Mike admitted.

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He feels as though he lost two prime years in his early 20s of being able to date and have fun without worrying about being in a serious relationship.

Now, he’s under pressure to find a long-term commitment, but can’t put himself out there.

“I also feel like I’m caught between two worlds,” he said. “Ultimately I’ve just been crashing and have had neither lately.”
 
Condoms, birth control, and abortions are a lack of self control not an adoption of self control. By that logic a man abandoning a woman who is pregnant is a "self-control option" to knocking her up, or just punching her in the belly. That's obviously nonsense.
For the record saying shit like this also tends to result in women running screaming in the opposite direction.
 
And do not pretend that there was not a concerted effort on the part of certain sectors in society that this should happen.
If you mean the jews then it has backfired terribly: their birth numbers are down and intermarriage and assimilation its so high most rabbis say there wont be any jews in America by the end of the century.
Maybe fewer women would be single moms if fewer dudes were shitheads that ditched them
Then don't date shitheads.
A lot of those "stupid cunts" chose men who hid their true colors
I seen so many cases where everybody was telling the girl the guy was a piece of shit: her guy friends, her girl friends, her family, colleagues, etc, and she still hooked up with the guy and became a single mom or worse, like one case where the guy actually tried to kill her.

Even right here you got somebody talking about her girl friend not wanting to go to the courts for child support because she still has the hots for her scumbag deadbeat baby daddy.

Just go outside, get a grip and be approachable. If you're going into a relationship expecting to potentially be married to the woman you're getting with and not mainly with her to bust a nut and feel good, you're probably a weirdo with no social awareness.
If you read the article that's exactly what the women are doing, not the men.
Men think women are all whores, women think men are all players. Sad, many such cases, etc.
While I don't think all women are whores there are far more whores than there are male players.
Usually trad weirdoes that want them b/c muh genetic legacy and to trap a fuckmommy.
I take "things that never happen" for $500.

In those cases the girl just gets alimony+child support and a restriction order for the weirdo who is now stuck for at least 18 years.
 
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For the record saying shit like this also tends to result in women running screaming in the opposite direction.
Doesn't stepping inside your neighborhood Walmart have the same effect on you as you've stated in the NJB/ubanist thread? Not sure you're necessarily representative of the average female, though considering the steady increase of BPD women, you might as well be in a decade or so unless a war breaks out.
 
I don't understand why women consider this such an impossible expectation.
Such women are women that avoid taking accountability for their actions, they're the kind of woman that when push in to a corner about it will claim all men are shitheads therefore it wasn't her fault because there are no other options.
 
Degenerates like you make me sick. You belong on a cross for even wanting this. What's next, you'll want to lovingly kiss her forehead? Sex in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation? Absolutely despicable
Holy shit bro, I'll admit I'm a little bit of a perv, but forehead kisses? There are lines even I won't cross.

Spoiler that shit next time, this is a work safe board.
 
I'm not talking about the article, I'm talking about the guys on here whining about how high women's standards are and how they'll never find a decent woman.
I mean western women are exactly like this so they're not wrong for the most part.

Western women expect:
-You to be working (this is fine)
-You to have a personality (this is fine)
-Not be homely (this is fine)/Decent hygiene (this is fine)
-To be in shape (this is not so fine and I'll explain why)
-To always make more money on the job (this is stupid depending on both partners jobs)
-To never criticize them (this is stupid)
- To have approved hobbies (this is stupid)
-To take responsibility for what they themselves do (this is stupid)
-To allow them to talk to over 100 guys, allow her to be snoopy in his friend circle while not being able to inspect hers (This is borderline retarded woman moment)
-To waste money on her despite her being able to break up at any point (This is stupid)
-To risk the divorce game and lose half his money which would make it impossible for him to ever financially recover (This is retarded)
-For him to be a looker while she is not (This is retarded)
*Note none of these requirements matter if you're smooth or the chad or a pretty boy/fuck boy.

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Now if you were to add women had the first four requirements, and maybe add "Don't cheat" "Don't be abusive" "Be good at taking care of children" if wanting them, those would be fine requirements. There are other dumb requirements I've seen women demand, but just on these alone. Yet women are allowing themselves often to be unhygenic, lacking personality and hobbies, don't want the guy to control her while she's fine to make demands of his hobbies, want him to often not talk to girls while they hang with their misc. male friends who want to have sex with them and you're just not supposed to care, to waste their wealth in an economically depreciated time, to risk everything and just go along because "Marriage was always a 80% risk trust me bro" (No it wasn't), and for him to be higher elevated looks and weight than herself. Don't get me started on her obsessions with pets, anti-social behaivors and past sexcapades that men are supposed to just ignore. Haha no.


Now many will say "women were always like this." That's a lie, but let's say that's true add on all these other demands and most women can't even call themselves a decent catch, but the demands from guys. Then you take into account men have to put up with women's mental instability which is a common thing for every woman, the disloyalty, the having to be basically never allow her to become bored or unhappy (impossible) and you see why many men are checking out or going to non-western women. (Which many of them are just as bad, if not just slightly less worse) [Not always true there either]

I've seen women call a man too nice just for checking up on her when she was sick when they just started dating, Like maybe it's men are just exhausted trying to live up to some fairytale mindreading and women just can't take the hint of how childish and absurd they're being on average. (with a few rare exceptions in the midst.)
 
If you mean the jews then it has backfired terribly: their birth numbers are down and intermarriage and assimilation its so high most rabbis say there wont be any jews in America by the end of the century.
That's why Ethan Klein has gotta pump out as many kids as he can, though I imagine Hila will run off to Israel with em as soon as their podcast ends.
 
Just to summarize 30 pages of shit-flinging: women choose who they fuck, but men choose who they marry. A big disconnect between these concepts is one of the root causes, if not the root cause, of all these dating problems.

The sooner people understand this, the better off they will be.
 
For the record saying shit like this also tends to result in women running screaming in the opposite direction.
If you weren't a kissless, sexless femcel dyke that probably got diddled into asexuality you'd know better than this. Women are attracted to overbearing, physically abusive men. I've seen it happen too many times in my own family to think otherwise. You don't marry three different alcoholics or stay with some wigger that gives you black eyes unless you're into it.
 
If you weren't a kissless, sexless femcel dyke that probably got diddled into asexuality you'd know better than this. Women are attracted to overbearing, physically abusive men. I've seen it happen too many times in my own family to think otherwise. You don't marry three different alcoholics or stay with some wigger that gives you black eyes unless you're into it.
I think you're mistaking your massively dysfunctional family for normie women.

People raised in abusive environments tend to seek out abusive partners because that's their normal. If you know a bunch of women like that congrats, you know a bunch of women that have been normalized to abuse and never learned to move past or escape it.

A lot of abusers also hide their true colors at first, until the feel like the victim is trapped and can't leave them.

I can assure you women as a whole do not like gross men who hurt them and treat them like shit. Would you?
 
biology hasn't even in put me in the situation where my partner could easily kill me with their bare hands.
Seen plenty of dudes beaten or stabbed by women tho.
I'm not talking about the article, I'm talking about the guys on here whining about how high women's standards are and how they'll never find a decent woman.
You're gonna find a lot of that online but IRL it really is the women I see complaining they can't find a decent man while adding yet another ridiculous item to their "must have" list.

Like come on ladies most of your mothers married plumbers and factory workers, you don't need a cowboy astronaut CEO hubby to be happy...
They get violent becasue they’re violent men and women are smaller. No unarmed woman can fight off a man determined to do her harm, despite what the ‘you go girl’ movies try to say.
Again they get violent because they can, most men don't attack women because they know the moment they touch her in public a pack of other men are going to beat the shit out of him, but if I even touch a trannie even if he's beating a woman half to death I'll be branded a woman beater and a transphobe, by other women, see the problem?

And besides when you see a trannie fighting a girl there's usually other women who are around him saying "you go girl!" as Becky gets her teeth knocked out by "Amethyst". The men are just watching from afar.
An awful lot of women were too.
Not really, what I saw were a lot of women cheering for this (if only for the social brownie points) while others were at best indifferent to it. Only a tiny group of religious women and extremely misandrist feminists openly opposed the transgender insanity.
A lot of men hate women.
Hardly, as a man I can tell you that within our circles even the equivalent of regular misandrist comments like "ugh! men are the worst!" but targeted at women (eg: "women are the worst") will get you a lot of bad glances from other men. One thing is complaining the wifey is whipping your ass but being overly negative about woman will get other men to think there's something wrong with you. You have to be an actual incel among incels to openly say you hate women and get cheered on.
to the men threatening to bash womens faces in for saying no to troons
Literally never seen this happen mostly because the only men cheering for trannies tend to be IRL soyjaks-types who are in turn doing it just to impress some lefty chick, and those lanky idiots would get their asses handed to them by a girl in a wheelchair. The other possibility is a coomer who is into chicks with dicks so of course he's gonna defend trannies, and well he's only dangerous depending on which arm he's using, if you catch my drift...

But overall you as a woman are far more likely to get harassed and even beaten by other women for not liking trannies, not by men.
People raised in abusive environments tend to seek out abusive partners because that's their normal.
Not really, people who went thru that tend to avoid violent narcissistic assholes because they know how bad it can get.

All the cases I know were girls who said they didn't want a boring dull man like their fathers, so they went with the "bad boy" aka: sociopath because he's more "fun", just like my old shitty RWD car that tended to randomly drift and do donuts in the middle of the road was "fun".

The equivalent in dudes is the wimpy retard who wants a "yandere" (read: bipolar psychotic) girl, the difference being those girls don't go for wimpy retards who watch anime, they also want the bad boy then try to stab him, fun times.
 
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