Youtube General thread (formerly Youtube Censorship discussion thread)

I want to mention JDownloader AGAIN because those guys are always on top of Youtube shenanigans. I was downloading a big video yesterday and when I resumed it today, it said "sign in to prove you're not a bot". So I just clicked the good ol' "check for updates" button in JD, it downloaded an update, I restarted the program and resumed the download no problem.
 
YouTube has already asked me for my ID, barring me basic creator functions until I do.
I remember several years ago YT asked me for the same thing. I crudely edited a photo of my driver's license in GIMP to feature a picture of the happy merchant, with the name changed to "Israel Shekelstein" and all the other numbers scrambled as to not lead to my real identity. For some reason YouTube was absolutely fine with that fine forgery and never pestered me about it ever again. :story:
 
Reminds me of discord doing age verification and kids are literally using whatever pics of random adults they have near them and it working.

Hope freetube isn't killed over this as I've been using that for well over a year I think. Switched as soon as I got hit with the "remove adblock I'll give you 5 chances" bullshit. Truly a better app, you can remove and customize the UI. Haven't seen a "recommended slop" bar for ages, plus no popups! For me those are one of the worst thing youtube as ever done tbh no I don't want tv or to hear propaganda fuck off
 
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tbh no I don't want tv or to hear propaganda fuck
I remember when the israel palestine stuff kicked off again last year and i tried using youtube on my tv and it would give me 3 ads in a row of kvetching about Hamas.
Since then i stopped using TV to watch Youtube because it fucking sucks. I just download terabytes of tv shows and use the TV for my plex server instead.
 
More draconian internet policies, this isn't a coincidence this is enemy action.
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Between this, the payment processor nonsense and the Online Safety act from the Bri-cucks, any mf that thinks that this is all a coincidence and not either a staged coordinated attack or at the very least a bunch of corrupt control freaks taking their shot after the Collective Shout started the wave is a moronic fuck head that has no pattern recognition.

Have we all done something terribly awful in a previous life? Why the fuck is this happening

Answers range from "Its human nature to seek control over others" to "The painter didnt finish the job"

So pick your favorite.
A couple years ago Youtube tried age verification and briefly asked for IDs until they stopped after in like less than a month. Can't believe they're retarded enough to roll this out again.

Maybe the payment processor stuff and the Online Safety Act embolded them to give it another shot, it wouldnt surprise me.
 
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I remember several years ago YT asked me for the same thing. I crudely edited a photo of my driver's license in GIMP to feature a picture of the happy merchant, with the name changed to "Israel Shekelstein" and all the other numbers scrambled as to not lead to my real identity. For some reason YouTube was absolutely fine with that fine forgery and never pestered me about it ever again. :story:
That's gonna come back to haunt you when notoriously lolcow Israel Skekelstein goes on a 7 state murder and sheep rape rampage.

Probably would have been safer to use Sam Hyde's picture.
 
Of course, the war on downloaders, Grayjay, etc. will only escalate.
And Invidious could get screwed over more, besides a "This helps protect our community" BS. Google wants everyone to go to that main site, provide the ID, and watch the ads.

And the "recommends glue on pizza" Google AI could "think" that an adult is a kid if the adult has childlike or childish interests, and have him provide an ID to watch vids.
 
I've been on YouTube a very long time, I believe my first video uploaded was in 2009.
YouTube has been in steady decline since the Pewdiepie nigger incident. Sanitized, commercialized, scrubbed clean. I have been returning out of a force of habit, rather than out of true enjoyment.
YouTube has already asked me for my ID, barring me basic creator functions until I do.

If YouTube demands I upload a photo of myself to simply use the site, I don't think I'll be using it at all anymore.
If you're actually a creator on Youtube I'm curious if you think something like Kick would be a good alternative or if you know of someplace else that might actually become a competitor with Youtube? It's probably been discussed to death in this thread but I've wanted some kind of alternative to Youtube forever but it seems like an impossible task because like you said, everyone returns to Youtube everyday out of habit and every Youtube competitor (except maybe Twitch but fuck that) can't compete with the volume of users and content that Youtube has.
 
I'm curious if you think something like Kick would be a good alternative or if you know of someplace else that might actually become a competitor with Youtube?
Kick is a better competitor to Twitch.
Rumble is still probably the strongest competitor to Youtube and even then it still has the problem of everyone assuming it's just a catch for people too spicy for Youtube.
The result is you go on the site and the first thing you see is political content, which everyone is fucking exhausted from seeing.
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Kick managed to survive by having raw money to throw at pulling people from Twitch and this is what happens when you don't have all the casino money in the world.
Still, it's doing leagues better than any other Youtube "competitor" did.
 
Kick is a better competitor to Twitch.
Rumble is still probably the strongest competitor to Youtube and even then it still has the problem of everyone assuming it's just a catch for people too spicy for Youtube.
I mean that's the fate of any competitor of any site really.
Even Kick at first was just "spicy Twitch" until it actually pulled in big name streamers/influencers with money, any site that props up as an explicit reaction to another site will usually just be a shadow of that site due to resentful early/majority adopters (see: Bluesky).
Youtube censors people who talk about RW-adjacent politics ----> "Here's a site that doesn't censor that!" ----> The majority of people that migrate are the censored persons in general ----> The only thing that's talked about is that censored thing and it pushes any other interested parties away, they just become shadow sites unless they explicitly try not to be (which Rumble very much did not considering how much republican money they actively gobbled up) .
That being said it shouldn't matter if people like that are actually using the site or not anyway (or if they're even front page, front page youtube is also trite), perception (and ideological politics) too strongly affects people's migration from any service because most people are passive consumers and established producers are fine with the status quo (or concerned with being on le "icky problematic" sites, considering alt-tech being increasingly associated with Right Wing thought).
 
If you're actually a creator on Youtube I'm curious if you think something like Kick would be a good alternative or if you know of someplace else that might actually become a competitor with Youtube? It's probably been discussed to death in this thread but I've wanted some kind of alternative to Youtube forever but it seems like an impossible task because like you said, everyone returns to Youtube everyday out of habit and every Youtube competitor (except maybe Twitch but fuck that) can't compete with the volume of users and content that Youtube has.
It's not an easy task. YouTube has a monopoly on sharing SFW videos on the Internet, countless failures have proven this time and time again. Dailymotion and Vimeo couldn't even come close to capturing an audience. A rival to YouTube will be very unprofitable for a very long time; you need money to not only host videos with the same quality and bandwith available to Google, but you also need to be willing to pay creators to post there in the first place.

Kick is such a successful rival to Twitch because
-It has a lot of money behind it, pouring crazy amounts of capital to keep it afloat long enough until it becomes profitable
-Twitch is somehow even more user-unfriendly than YouTube.

I think a YouTube competitor is the closest it's been since the early 2010s. If Kick starts investing in MP4 video sharing rather than livestreams, I can see it becoming more popular than YouTube within a few years.

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My youtube account is from 2006, I wonder if the AI is shit enough that I can flag myself as a minor
Mine is from 2008. If the AI assumes I was some super genius baby in 2008, that will be hilarious. Just found out this AI age thing is going to apply to everything Google.

That poor thing is going to be so confused by my search history.
 
The easy methods to fool age verification aren't gonna last long. I believe it's a trick to discourage resistance by allowing avoidance of the problem, temporarily. They did the same thing with vax passes : "well this is fine because I can just provide proof of recovery/my account isn't flagged" > "well this is fine because I can easily cheat the system" > "well this is fine because I can still cheat the system (barely)" > no more playing around, vax/ID or else, with robust counters to fraud and/or severe consequences for getting caught. And by the time you find yourself at stage 4, >90% of the population has already caved in so you can't mount a significant resistance, and the system doesn't care if you drop out entirely as you are an expendable minority.
 
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