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LazyLizard said:
google is the biggest company in the world worth over 2 trillion, why the fuck are they so desperate for this shit?
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Because it's more about social engineering and control than making money. Video streaming services make zero money on their own. But doing things like harvesting user data, promoting a monopolistic marketplace like Amazon Prime, or being able to spam political ads are the actual goal.
 
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LazyLizard said:
google is the biggest company in the world worth over 2 trillion, why the fuck are they so desperate for this shit?
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Investors are cave men.

Line need to go up make line go up line need go up don't care how line go up. LINE NEED GO UP UP LINE GO UP
 
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Investors are cave men.

Line need to go up make line go up line need go up don't care how line go up. LINE NEED GO UP UP LINE GO UP
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Not caring about how the line goes up brought ups amazing times like the 1929 market crash and the 2008 economic crisis and the current recession we are in.
 
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YouTube's server-side ads resulted in a black screen for ad blocker users​

About a month ago, we reported that YouTube has begun testing server-side ads. Now, users are reporting that they are running into a black screen when they tried to watch videos.
YouTube has been cracking down on ad blockers rather aggressively since last year, in a bid to get users to switch to YouTube Premium, which starts at $13.99 for a month's subscription.

Brief recap on YouTube's war against ad blockers​

The streaming service allegedly began delaying the videos, creating an artificial lag on browsers other than Chrome and Edge. But, reports indicated that the problem affected users who had an ad blocker installed.
The Mountain View company had revealed in April this year, that it was displaying an anti-ad block prompt for users who were blocking ads, and encouraged them to subscribe to its Premium subscription. But ad blockers came to the rescue once again, allowing users to bypass the nag screen. Less than a month later, it appeared that Google stepped up its efforts by causing videos to skip automatically if it detected an ad blocker, but it turned out to be a bug related to Adblock Plus. Firefox users have accused YouTube of deliberately offering an inferior experience on non-Chromium browsers, but it has never been proven definitively.
Anyway, Google wasn't done with its shenanigans. YouTube decided to inject server-side ads into the videos, i.e. unlike ads that run separately, these new ads are embedded directly into the video stream, and are tricky to block, but it was not an impossible task for the good-old ad blockers.

Seeing a black screen on YouTube? It's not just you.​

Mashable reports that users ran into a black screen on YouTube, and that it stayed for about 6 seconds before the video began playing. The reports indicate it affected several browsers including Firefox, Edge, Vivaldi.
Some users joked that they would rather see a black screen than an ad. While that's certainly a better experience, it does waste precious seconds of our time. A simple workaround for the black screen on YouTube is to just refresh the page, hit F5 as soon as the page starts loading. uBlock Origin's filters were updated with a patch to resolve the problem, the add-on updates its filters automatically. If you are still experiencing the black screen issue, just open the extension's dashboard and manually update the filters. This tug-of-war is getting annoying, but it appears to me that Google's efforts are actively promoting the use of ad blockers, instead of attracting new subscribers.
I did not run into the issue in Firefox, but that's mostly because I don't use it for YouTube anymore. However, I can confirm that FreeTube had a similar issue at about the same time. Videos were failing to load when using LocalAPI. This bug was quickly fixed in an update, and I think it is possible that the two problems could have been related to each other. And for those of you who are experiencing the auto-scrolling window issue in FreeTube, here's a workaround for the annoying bug.
On a side note, Google Chrome users may notice a warning that says "These extensions may soon no longer be supported". You can learn more about it by reading Martin's article.
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I was getting these blackscreen ads, but apparently not being logged in also works to fix them.
 
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Dunkin DoNUT said:
don't even watch on site as frequently anymore because kiketube is slow even on my brave browser
as for logging in, in my case, only to leave a comment telling a nigger faggot that he's a nigger faggot
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Which is getting shadow banned anyway so....
 
The handsome tard said:
Which is getting shadow banned anyway so....
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The bot that they use to shadow ban comments is actually the dumbest fucking bot I've ever seen.
You don't even HAVE to put an offensive word or statement for your comment to be disappeared.

Half the time I don't even know why the fuck my comment becomes invisible. So either the bot is completely retarded or smarter than it looks and I've been placed on some kind of list. I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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I've had multiple completely innocuous comments auto-deleted by YT's censorship bot. Not hidden, but auto-deleted. No "bad" words or phrases used. Not long ago, I had my account blocked from commenting for 24 hours simply for acknowledging crime statistics on a piece of police body-worn video. YT claimed the comment was "hate speech" despite my comment not using any slang or even mentioning a specific race. My guess is someone manually reported that comment.

The comments I've made that were either hidden or auto-deleted become even more confusing when I think about various comments I've left that were definitely more spicy than those comments, but were completely visible and upvoted quite a bit. YT's comment censorship algorithm is completely retarded.
 
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Samhain said:
I've had multiple completely innocuous comments auto-deleted by YT's censorship bot. Not hidden, but auto-deleted. No "bad" words or phrases used. Not long ago, I had my account blocked from commenting for 24 hours simply for acknowledging crime statistics on a piece of police body-worn video. YT claimed the comment was "hate speech" despite my comment not using any slang or even mentioning a specific race. My guess is someone manually reported that comment.

The comments I've made that were either hidden or auto-deleted become even more confusing when I think about various comments I've left that were definitely more spicy than those comments, but were completely visible and upvoted quite a bit. YT's comment censorship algorithm is completely retarded.
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It seems to use a strange word catcher to censor or shadowban "bad" comments from being visible. As for the crime statistics, damn, someone was a bit sensitive if that was the case, no?
 
Bob Barbas said:
Half the time I don't even know why the fuck my comment becomes invisible. So either the bot is completely retarded or smarter than it looks and I've been placed on some kind of list. I wouldn't be surprised.
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I was suspended from leaving comments for a whole day after dropping the N-word. I havent gone that far since but I always feel in the back of my mind this concern if this didnt leave me in some sort of list and thats why my comments are shadowbanned if they are even slightly passive aggressive.


Or maybe we are giving them too much credit, that too.
 
Lone Wandering Courier said:
Freetube seems to be broken again
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Yeah, it's broken at the moment when using LocalAPI. Right now you HAVE to switch to Invidious to even use the app. Thankfully ads are still being blocked just fine, and SponsorBlock integrated is having no issues that I can see, but this is getting continuously worse for the program. They're having to put out a new version every week at this point. As others have said, download everything you care about right now before it's too late and ads are baked into the stream data.
 
I have found that my interest in not seeing ads has now surpassed my interest in watching YouTube videos so now whenever newpipe breaks I simply stop watching YouTube until it's fixed
 
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Equal Rights for Androids said:
I'm now getting ads for the first time in over 13 years on youtube. Brave is not blocking them nor is ublock origin despite updating both. Nor adblock nor sponserblock.
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Not yet for me but that's definitely bad news for everyone.
Honestly, it's hard not to laugh at how absolutely desperate they are for that ad money.
 
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